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Xbox Series X and S render their home UIs in 1080p, SDR
- Thread starter LordOfChaos
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If it’s snappier than the current (or prior UI now I guess?) than I really don’t care. It’s just thumbnails and some letters, who cares?
The larger win on Sony’s part is how integrated the UI appears to be with its games. A video guide system without having to youtube some “yO iTs Yo boI SprinKle TitTIeS!!1! Before I tell you how to complete this don’t forget to smash that like button and subscribble!!1!” Is already a huge plus imo.
The larger win on Sony’s part is how integrated the UI appears to be with its games. A video guide system without having to youtube some “yO iTs Yo boI SprinKle TitTIeS!!1! Before I tell you how to complete this don’t forget to smash that like button and subscribble!!1!” Is already a huge plus imo.
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AllBizness
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Well I mean Microsoft makes bloated operating systems that hog more system resources and RAM then they should. Them Digital Foundry head to heads would've had closer gaps if 1X ui was also 4k such a shame. If they have to reserve more RAM just to run the ui in 4k that 18% gpu advantage is not going to even translate on screen.
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RyanEvans21
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Parity with Series S
SliChillax
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It's not a big deal but still disappointed. My game tiles in the shortcut that I have pinned on the dashboard look very blurry due to the low res.
SilentUser
Member
There is no way around it: while it isn't a big problem, this is not good by any means. Most certainly they will update de UI one day.
LordOfChaos
Member
You asked why the discussion was about RAM, right? The framebuffer needing that much RAM to keep up with a 4K/60 UI is the answer. On the One X they elected to keep a 1080p UI to use less than the 1GB of RAM they had reserved for it, and the PS4 Pro adds 1GB of DDR RAM to offset the 4K UI while giving .5GB back to developers, indicating the framebuffer for a 4K/60fps UI + the assets is about half a gigabyte
The One X also remained on 1080p its entire life while the Pro output the UI in 4K. Who knows, could change it or could be a permanent design decision to save some RAM if it doesn't have that DDR to offset a 4K UI taking more GDDR6.
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DarkMage619
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What rule exactly? The fact that the UI isn't final and could change so don't focus on pre-release features? He said that if it doesn't change he would be frustrated. What more could he say?
Magic Carpet
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I'm a bit confused. What am I missing? Are people wanting a 4k UI so that things shrink down and you can fit more things onscreen? What is the goal here?
I'm looking at text and images on my Xbox One X and switching to my PS4 Pro back and forth. What am I not seeing here? I don't get it. Are thumb images supposed to be clearer on the PS4 Pro? I'm not seeing it.
OK I"m seeing it. Pictures and thumbs are very much clearer on the PS4 PRO.
I'm looking at text and images on my Xbox One X and switching to my PS4 Pro back and forth. What am I not seeing here? I don't get it. Are thumb images supposed to be clearer on the PS4 Pro? I'm not seeing it.
OK I"m seeing it. Pictures and thumbs are very much clearer on the PS4 PRO.
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RyanEvans21
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It Depends on TV Size & Resolution. 4k more cleaner compare to 1080p resolution.
If you have 50+ 4ktv. you notice how blurry 1080p images.
Sir Vilhelm
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Xbox one X looks fine on my 75", not blurry at all lol. Much hyperbole
Magic Carpet
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Yea I'm seeing it now. Clearly. The thumbs on the XBONEX are not anywhere near as clear as the PS4PRO.
Both stores seem similar though. Is the Xbox one X store in 4K?
Text looks good on either machine though.
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nyr88nyg
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Rusty Shackelford
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No, and I don't care.
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lingpanda
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This actually affects me. Granted I'm in the minority. I game on a HDR 4k pixel shifting projector. On the One X its jarring going from the dashboard to a game. The projector has to enable it's 4k mode and HDR which causes the screen to flicker and and changes it's color to HDR. This is annoying but tolerable. The big issue comes when going back to the dashboard. I get kind of a crushed black affect on all content I load next. Only way to reset is to turn the projector off and on. Very annoying to say the least.
Ozzy Onya A2Z
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Nah,
As someone that went from a 1080p HD to 4K HDR my Xbox One X detected it, updated and things look crisp AF on a 75". There was an update again yesterday to a new Xbox dashboard and it also looks super crisp in all lines, text, graphics, animation etc. If you didn't tell me there's no way I would have noticed it was upscaled 1080p to 4K. It's basically undetectable, nothing to worry about.
01011001
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uhm, the system still outputs a 4k image, just the internal resolution is 1080p, so not sure what that has to do with your projector having hickups.
Ulysses 31
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Guess RTINGS didn't get the memo that 1080p is supposed to look bad on 4K TVs when they've been handing out these 9s for upscaling.
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Tschumi
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4k 60 or go home!
... That's on message at least..
I'm practice though, i still game at 1080 on my laptop.. can play the newest games without breaking the bank for a new rig.. the TV makes the resolution.. my old hdmi tv looks miles better than my Alienware 17 screen, when i plug and play it into my PC.
... That's on message at least..
I'm practice though, i still game at 1080 on my laptop.. can play the newest games without breaking the bank for a new rig.. the TV makes the resolution.. my old hdmi tv looks miles better than my Alienware 17 screen, when i plug and play it into my PC.
Kagoshima_Luke
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It's not the end of the world, but obviously it should be in 4K. I'm surprised they risked the negative blowback, considering their heavy push to position the XSX as the TRUE 4K™ console. Hopefully they patch it in soon.
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pixelation
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Errmh... are we sure this is the world's most powerful console?, so far what we've seen and learned from it sure don't make it look like it. Sure quote numbers all you want (I know numbers state that it is indeed the most powerful console, not by as big a margin as many hope it is), but... proof is in the pudding and the pudding so far has had a very lackluster taste.
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So no one see the the humor in the fact that the company that is known for their OS is somehow having trouble getting their UI into 4K on a 12TF console while Sony is out here running games in 4K with pop up UI doing all types of foolishness & juggling a picture in picture around the screen while you play games?
MarkMe2525
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Not a huge deal as the current ui looks good on my q70, but a nice fresh coat of paint would have been nice.
MarkMe2525
Gold Member
Not really, while not preferable, it's just the UI. If that means a little extra room in ram for games (the reason we buy it in the first place) so be it.
Edit: Not to take anything away from Sony. It is impressive on their end.
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But from the looks of things they haven't shown any benefits of going with a 1080p UI vs PS5 4K UI so there seems to be a memory management problem that they will have to get under control.
Spokker
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It's funny, just not that significant. The UI could be 480i, black and white and sometimes utter anti-semitic remarks, but it has no bearing on the system's ability to render high end visuals.
MarkMe2525
Gold Member
Honestly, I don't care. That's for consoles warriors to worry about. My 1X looks awesome. My series x will look awesome. It doesn't seem like like a problem to me.
You don't care so why are we having this convo?
Balducci30
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Omg do people actually care about this shit.
MarkMe2525
Gold Member
You asked a question, though I suspect you really didn't want to hear an answer.
If you look back you will see that I said that if they are using a 1080P UI it's because they are getting more benefit from it than they would have got from having a cleaner UI , but that don't change the fact that it's funny to see Microsoft who is pretty good at this stuff having a issue getting the UI in 4K while Sony has all the other stuff going on while you are playing games in 4K.
oldergamer
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The only people that care about this are sony fans. They also only care about it as the rare point where they can say ps5 is better. This is what it has come to. My ui is higher res and that makes my plastic box better?
What a fucking pathetic display with the drive by posts. TF doesn't matter but UI resolution does? Its the dumbest argument ever.
What a fucking pathetic display with the drive by posts. TF doesn't matter but UI resolution does? Its the dumbest argument ever.
MarkMe2525
Gold Member
Ok, you are making the assumption that head up, there won't be a benefit for MS. That may turn out to be true, but as of right now, we don't know that. So I'm going to reserve judgement on the respective console makers choices because they made said choices for a reason. I'm assuming to make the best console possible.
Edit: If you do think there is going to be a benefit for MS by having 1080p ui, then I'm not sure what you're going on about. In this scenario Microsoft prioritized game performance. That's not funny, that's what I want.
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Kssio_Aug
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If what MS has done to Xbox One is any reference, they will for sure update Series X/S dashboard a lot, making it much better in no time.
I don't see a good reason why it's NOT in 4K, but I also don't see the issue here... is 4K really that important for the dashboard? For me is more about making no sense not to be, rather then being something that I would actually care for.
I don't see a good reason why it's NOT in 4K, but I also don't see the issue here... is 4K really that important for the dashboard? For me is more about making no sense not to be, rather then being something that I would actually care for.
Thirty7ven
Banned
A lot of people exposing themselves. Spent the whole year trying to convince the world they can spot small differences in resolution all the way from the couch, and now it seems they never even noticed the 1080p dashboard. Hilarious stuff.
Going from PS4 Pro to PS4 Slim, it was pretty apparent. Is it a huge deal? Of course not. But it’s still funny.
Going from PS4 Pro to PS4 Slim, it was pretty apparent. Is it a huge deal? Of course not. But it’s still funny.
I think it's more because Sony confirmed the PS5 UI is designed for 4k and supports HDR, so it feels like an odd step that a more powerful console isn't doing the same.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Yeah, as I said, since it's a 4K console (we might even call it a 4K generation probably), it doesnt make sense not being 4K to begin with. It's just that I don't think it matters that much in the dashboard.
I do believe, however, that if MS want to, they update it to 4K in no time... they probably could do it before the console launch. It doesn't sound to me something hard to do.
MrFunSocks
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NeoGAF: Wahhhhhhhh I don't care about 4K, it's stupid, I want 60fps and flashier graphics!!!!
Also NeoGAF: Wahhhhhhh how dare they make the dash that I will see for 10 seconds only 1080p!!!!!!! I demand 4K because max resolution is the most important thing!
I've got a big 4K HDR OLED tv and I couldn't care less if the Dashboard is 1080p or 4K. I don't play the dashboard, and with how simple the UI graphics are the upscaling to 4K is unnoticeable from native 4K. It's a bunch of big squares.
Also NeoGAF: Wahhhhhhh how dare they make the dash that I will see for 10 seconds only 1080p!!!!!!! I demand 4K because max resolution is the most important thing!
I've got a big 4K HDR OLED tv and I couldn't care less if the Dashboard is 1080p or 4K. I don't play the dashboard, and with how simple the UI graphics are the upscaling to 4K is unnoticeable from native 4K. It's a bunch of big squares.
Magic Carpet
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Im just now finding out that the PS4 Pro movies in the store are only available in 1080p. No UHD 4k options.
xbone x has uhd versions though.
I dont normally browse the stores much but this thread has me A B switching back and forth.
my gripe with the PS4 is auto game mode is enabled in UI and its too bright and harsh on my eyes.
xbone x has uhd versions though.
I dont normally browse the stores much but this thread has me A B switching back and forth.
my gripe with the PS4 is auto game mode is enabled in UI and its too bright and harsh on my eyes.
MarkMe2525
Gold Member
Then I'm not understanding the point of your original question I responded to. Was there a point?
I also clearly addressed that in my edit. I know you read it as you quoted it.
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