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Tripolygon
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Apologies , SMH, Photoshop apparently. Its getting harder to take what people post at face value these days.
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Gudji
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It was marketed as a 1440p box and yet games run at 1080p. Also the majority of the titles won't have ray tracing. What a great start!
Garani
Member
I mostly agree. You are right about the business plan part and that they are doing it for the money (heck, who isn't?). What you, and I, don't know is the content of that business plan: we simply don't know what are the fugures that make it work, and all the variables that they took in consideration.
Personally I expect Zenimax to stop publishing games for the PS, but that will come with new products that will come out in 2022/23 onwards. Whatever has budget already spent/has deals already signed, will be respected simply because it would screw up all numbers.
What can I add that others didn't? You are spreading simple disinformation about PS5s tf numbers. And actually, if they were true, I would just be quite given that, from what we have been shown, games seems to look significantly better on PS5 than on XSX.
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I agree, deals that are already signed will be respected. But do we know how quickly things like these are signed for huge 3rd party games? For example Starfield can be expected 2021/2022 (really hope 2021), what needs to be signed? Would a marketing deal already be signed now if it doesn't launch within the next 12 months?
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Look my friend, I know you’re an Xbox fan, and want to think that Msft have the head start, and the best position moving forward in terms of leveraging subscription gaming, but you do need to face a little bit of reality when thinking about how Amazon will compete with GamePass.
Amazon Prime is an everything service. That’s the point of it. Free shipping, one day delivery, movies, TV, cheaper prices, cheaper books, free books, grocery shopping, Amazon Music, Amazon wardrobe and, most pertinent: prime GAMING. You do know they own Twitch, right? The platform that is currently the most effective games advertising method in the world?
The company has spent decades learning how to bring customers into the Amazon system, and then sell them their products in the most efficient manner possible. They will see Amazon Luna as just another way to both bring even more people into the Amazon system, and give existing customers yet another ‘thing’ they get on Amazon Prime (probably for free at some point).
15 million GamePass subscribers is a great achievement, and it’s a very good service. But it’s going to go up against 150 million Prime subscribers, billions of Amazon account holders, and AWS - by far and away the most established cloud streaming tech.
Brace yourself.
The same goes for fans of Sony, because Luna will impact them too.
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Deleted member 775630
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Difference here is that Game Pass Ultimate (includes xCloud) is $15 for just Game Pass Ultimate, while Amazon Prime is $13 for everything of Amazon Prime, right? People are already saying that the Game Pass business model might not work, how is Amazon then ever going to make this work WHILE also paying the whole industry more?
Killer Sakoman
Member
Just because they have 150 million user doesn't mean their gaming will succeed. How many of these subscribers care about gaming?
Also wasn't this supposed to be the same for google who has billion and billion of gmail and youtube users?
EliteClarity
Member
MM, Sackboy and MAYBE leaning toward WD: Legion or COD, Dependent on Reviews. Extra Dualsense and a Charging Dock completes the Lineup.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Well, I’m not one of those people, so I’d disagree with that opinion. Game streaming is the future, whether we like it or not.
geordiemp
Member
So some speculation from an old tweet
Note what Matt is teasing here, can intersetion engines calculate bounce across CUs ? You can only do that if CUs are sharing more information.
Is this an L1 infnity cache tease or more to do with ps5 custom cache handling ?
There is more to be learned, and some people already know the answer and we dont, so frustrating.
allot of Post processing techniques performance is about speed, caches and sharing data across Cus.
Elog
this is for you.
Note what Matt is teasing here, can intersetion engines calculate bounce across CUs ? You can only do that if CUs are sharing more information.
Is this an L1 infnity cache tease or more to do with ps5 custom cache handling ?
There is more to be learned, and some people already know the answer and we dont, so frustrating.
allot of Post processing techniques performance is about speed, caches and sharing data across Cus.
Elog
this is for you.
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FunkMiller
Gold Member
There are over 2.5 billion people in the world who play video games. That’s 35 percent of the human population. 35 percent of 150 million prime subscribers is over 50 million people. And that’s just Prime subscribers. Amazon can and will advertise at everyone with an Amazon account who has purchased video game stuff from them. That probably includes you.
Please stop bringing Google up. They were a completely different proposition, with a far weaker cloud base, and far less integration and expertise in direct customer selling.
Clarification: I’m not necessarily happy about any of this, but it’s a bit foolish to stick my head in the sand and pretend things are never going to change. Amazon are going to cause a lot of changes in video gaming. Some good, some bad.
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Garani
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Think in terms of development cycles, not just deals signed. If a game comes out in 2021 then you have already spent 3/4 of your budget (AAA do have a 4 years development lifecycle). Why would you throw it away? I mean, you can, of course, but the reason must be hugely compelling. Add to that that the actual deal will not be finalized before 2021 anyway, I believe that you'll see anything that was planned to come out in 2021 on both consoles.
After that it will all depends on how much money has already been invested. So the rule of thumb should be: the farther you are from release date, the more plausible that it will be an XBox exclusive.
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kraspkibble
Permabanned.
i've got both Xbox Series X + PS5 pre ordered.
Getting Cyberpunk/Watch Dogs for Xbox + Demon's Souls for PS5.
Getting Cyberpunk/Watch Dogs for Xbox + Demon's Souls for PS5.
PSX
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Do you think a lot of time is already invested in tuning it for the specific platforms? I would think that they are just developing to have a basic version that will only be optimized to specific platforms in the last years. I could be wrong, not a game developer.
Yeah but I mean that if you are going to charge less, and also need that money to provide all the other services within Prime, there isn't a lot of margin left anymore. Knowing this industry, and it's business model, not so sure if it's so viable for them.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
So some speculation from an old tweet
Note what Matt is teasing here, can intersetion engines calculate bounce across CUs ? You can only do that if CUs are sharing more information.
Is this an L1 infnity cache tease or more to do with ps5 custom cache handling ?
There is more to be learned, and some people already know the answer and we dont, so frustrating.
allot of Post processing techniques performance is about speed, caches and sharing data across Cus.
Why is not this Matt guy in here, shame he is just a Reee memeber.... I guess at least we have our VFX master
DrDamn
Member
Watch Dogs just looks pretty awful to me. Like a remaster of a much older game where old assets are just rendered at a higher resolution and certain effects are just slapped over the scene to make it look "better" without any artistic direction. The prevalence of puddles is clearly a next gen feature, but they've even got them under cover here
Snowdonhoffen
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That Matt is not the same Matt from Resetera
zubairali2
Member
That Matt is not the same Matt from Resetera
Yeah. Matt in the tweet was the principal software engineer on PS5.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
OhhThat Matt is not the same Matt from Resetera
ToadMan
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I’m referring to Sony’s other products in Media, Music, Photography and even Phones. MS has tried to break into (some of) those markets and bowed out due to lack of success.
Console-wise I don’t think Nintendo is competing for the same market as Sony and MS. But if you want to call it a success that Xbox managed to outsell two under performing Nintendo consoles be my guest.
Ultimately the growth MS achieved from XBox wouldn’t be a called a success given it was negative in the transition from 360 to xbone.
geordiemp
Member
Wrong Matt, this was the ps5 principal engineer, now at Roblox, he know exactly whats in Ps5.
So look again at the tweet he is teasing, and go look at L1 infinity cache....and then come back.
The Matt at Ree is a different Matt
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M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Sorry about that, I though he is the same person. You know Matt ™
jasondefaoite
Member
Star field and 2021?
The only way that happens is it looks like Halo. As in unpolished. Perfect for Gamepass. They can update it as they go. Follow the star citizen model.
I honestly think it’s 2023 for that game.
sandkiller
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Mr. PlayStation
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I swear to god just the other day when i clicked on this astal profile it showed followed by Shinobi. I guess he unfollowed him after Shinobi discovered that Astal a legendary fud master?
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BigLee74
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jimbojim
Banned
Not the same Matt. Btw. that REE Matt is also registered here. But he didn't logged in here for a while now
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yeah the other Matt is usually more informed about Xbox which hargaret probably wouldn't know.
Wait do we need a team of Matts?Because they've been acurate and even better avoid dwelling in the fanboy territory.
Who would be the 3rd Matt ?
LivingD3AD
Member
90 minutes till Unboxing videos
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
jimbojim
Banned
He works on Roblox for quite a while now. And Roblox is an Xbox Console exclusive
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Wait which Matt works on Roblox?
THE:MILKMAN
Member
Like I said last night after Geoff's Tweet, Sony are coordinating as many as the worlds game press so all can do it at the same time. The only disappointment and frankly silly thing about this is we already saw far more of the PS5 with the teardown than we will see of it today. But people like unboxings so they are doing it.
pasterpl
Member
are you seriously comparing gamepass subscriber numbers to user base of all Amazon properties? This lacks any logical sense.
sandkiller
Member
Unclear if it's just unboxing or also turning it on and going through the UI etc...
DrDamn
Member
Matt Hargett (twitter) was a Sony PS Engineer and is now at Roblox.
chilichote
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THE:MILKMAN
Member
I assume the NA game press/influencers have pre-recorded their unboxings over the weekend (who would believe they left them undone all this time!?) and the RoTW game press just receiving PS5's today will have just a few hours to record theirs. I doubt they would do this live. Also that USB stick included probably had strict instructions of what/when to do everything and other do's/don't just like happened with XSX.
All very deliberate and controlled.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
OOOOh ok I didn't know that then maybe he can get the same informations as the other Matt.
So we havee RE(setera) Matt and Ro(blox) Matt...
jimbojim
Banned
Matt Hargett ( Twitter guy). He is the Prinicipal Engineer at Roblox
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