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DF : Xbox Series S vs Series X Console Review: Can The Cut-Down Console Cut It?

TTOOLL

Member
I’m about to finish watching it and they like it, obviously, but they criticize the message that series S games will be like series X games but at 1080p.
There are and there will be many more differences.

Edit: a lot of time spent on legacy titles. It’s telling.
 
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assurdum

Banned
"The 12 TF monster machine." I mean, it's still really necessary overhyping the series X ? Even after all that chaos of the last days? Of course the Xbox fan overreact when see the same performance on ps5. Until site like this, which should be about tech analysis, are so invested to feed such exaperate narrative, console war will never end.
 
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Quantum253

Member
I was really wanting the Series S for a 1440p desk gaming/Xbox 360 BC and Game Pass machine. However, with such a small HDD size and the cost of upgrading even to 1TB, I'll either have to wait till the proprietary storage size comes down in price (highly unlikely) or get the Series X.

Looked at Xbox 1TB Seagate storage price: $219.99. With the Series S at $299.99 you might as well get the X for $520 and get a HD-Bluray drive and more power.
 
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M1chl

Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Is there a comparison with Xbox One X? Would like to know how those two fare aside from the obvious SSD advantage.
60 fps in some titles, but many times One X is rendering stuff in better quality...
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
"The 12 TF monster machine." I mean, it's still really necessary overhyping the series X ? Of course the Xbox fan overreact when see the same performance on ps5. Until site like this, which should be about tech analysis, are so invested to feed such cheerleader narrative, console war will never end.

Their whole business model started out (which was on GAF) and lives, breathes, and flourishes around warring. It's cute when they pretend otherwise.
 

assurdum

Banned
Their whole business model started out (which was on GAF) and lives, breathes, and flourishes around warring. It's cute when they pretend otherwise.
I haven't nothing against that but I hate when you caught them off guard and they play the part of the innocent, no no no, not true, we are just genuine enthusiastic, we won't feed the fanboy, we hate them and they restart the same annoying attitude. I imagine it's just my fault to care that much I have to admit.
 
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killatopak

Gold Member
If you’re a PS user and a Bethesda fan, this is honestly the cheapest way to play Bethesda games. I do hope it becomes cheaper though as the value proposition compared to XSX is kinda wack especially with the low storage.
 

Yoboman

Member
Richard Leadebetter: "This will be a console war unlike any other because the platform holders have very different objectives to the point where head to heads on game performance and what not, are gonna be secondary to what's really going on"

Well isn't that convenient
 

MastaKiiLA

Member
I feel like they uploaded this incomplete. I think they wanted to be more thorough, but they legit have capture issues and can't generate the videos they want. I hope they get it fixed, and that they give us NBA2k21 comparisons. I want to see fi there are visual issues that I appear to see.
 

TLZ

Banned
Honestly, even though I shat on this before, my biggest issue with it is the storage space. If you release a digital only console, you're relying on storage. You need more space.

Also, I'm unsure why some games are locked at 30fps when it very possibly can do 60fps at a lower res.

If this S had the same fps as the X in all games, and had a bigger storage, 1TB at least, I would've honestly thought about getting it for my 1080p TV in the bedroom. But as it is, no.
 
Is there a TLDR answer? DF can take a long time to make a point sometimes.

I agree, I'm over YT videos that are lengthy. Sure deep dive as they call it but honestly I'm more after a results article I can read in a minute rather than a 20+ mins video every time. I'm sure that caters to their audience but I'm just not wasting it when literally a dozen dot points in a comparison chart would be viewed in 30seconds to get the same net effect.
 

bighugeguns

Member
Comes down to the fact that a $299 next gen console with Gamepass is probably the most frightning thing any competitor across the board has ever seen.

The X isn't the MS powerplay, the S is, it's a disgusting flex.
 
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Rolla

Banned
I agree, I'm over YT videos that are lengthy. Sure deep dive as they call it but honestly I'm more after a results article I can read in a minute rather than a 20+ mins video every time. I'm sure that caters to their audience but I'm just not wasting it when literally a dozen dot points in a comparison chart would be viewed in 30seconds to get the same net effect.

This.

TL;DR It makes a great Game Pass box or low cost chance for PS5 owners to experience the Xbox library/catalogue - but think it won't appeal to traditional "core" gamers on it's own.

In general they like it though.

Sound reasoning. I don't have anything on XB/GP that I want to try out. I tend to buy my games day 1 but if XBOX develops a catalogue I do want to try out the XBSS console is a decent option.
 

chonga

Member
This is the first time I've seen them talk about how slow or non-working Quick Resume can be. Funny how they didn't mention that in their preview embargoed videos...
 

JimboJones

Member
Honestly, even though I shat on this before, my biggest issue with it is the storage space. If you release a digital only console, you're relying on storage. You need more space.

Also, I'm unsure why some games are locked at 30fps when it very possibly can do 60fps at a lower res.

If this S had the same fps as the X in all games, and had a bigger storage, 1TB at least, I would've honestly thought about getting it for my 1080p TV in the bedroom. But as it is, no.

I think at least in the backwards compatibility mode the Series S is relying on the One S performance profiles, while it could do 60fps, if the original OneS game didn't have the option for a 60fps mode then the SeriesS may not get that option either unless they go back and specifically work it in with a patch. That's my understanding at least.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Richard Leadebetter: "This will be a console war unlike any other because the platform holders have very different objectives to the point where head to heads on game performance and what not, are gonna be secondary to what's really going on"

Well isn't that convenient

Indeed . :messenger_weary::messenger_ok:
 

FrankWza

Member
If you’re a PS user and a Bethesda fan, this is honestly the cheapest way to play Bethesda games. I do hope it becomes cheaper though as the value proposition compared to XSX is kinda wack especially with the low storage.

You don’t need an x to play any of those releases until 2022 or 2023 maybe. Things can be different by then anyway. Until then PS gets the 2 major releases exclusively next year.
 

AgentP

Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
I commend anyone that can stand to listen to Wichard for more than 20 secs.
 

MrFunSocks

Banned
I think at least in the backwards compatibility mode the Series S is relying on the One S performance profiles, while it could do 60fps, if the original OneS game didn't have the option for a 60fps mode then the SeriesS may not get that option either unless they go back and specifically work it in with a patch. That's my understanding at least.
This is correct.

Series S = One S BC.

Series X = One X BC.
 
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Richard Leadebetter: "This will be a console war unlike any other because the platform holders have very different objectives to the point where head to heads on game performance and what not, are gonna be secondary to what's really going on"

Well isn't that convenient
I don't get this.

What the fuck is Richard on about with this line?

Isn't head to head performance literally what DF is about? I don't get this
 
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