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Barakov

Member
At long last the incel menace has been purged.

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Nikana

Go Go Neo Rangers!
So you were bean shooting? Because you made it sound like you were having a chat with some board members and then you went for a night on the town. I’m not telling him to make any decisions. I was telling him to protect his purchase if possible because the likelihood of them supporting 4 consoles is not good. I don’t know when that’s it going to be. Could be 2 years, could be 4. I don’t know how long they’d keep feeding a gimpednhorse before sending it to the glue factory. You’re the one changing the story. A minute ago you were thumbing through documents marked confidential, now it’s forum speak.
Where did I say it was forum speak? No where. The thread was started by me. I shared information passed along to me that I asked about and got it verified. If thats not good enough for you then so be it. Thats your prerogative but the information came from a verified source who is a developer by the mods the forum you are currently on. If you dont trust the info because it doesn't follow the narrative in your head that doesn't discredit it. Thats not how it works.

But you dont have the balls to even look at the content or back up your mouth and claims.

First it was 2 years, now it could be 2 or 4 years. Your claim is not that they wont support 4 consoles therefore the series S's days are limited? Sure, whatever, thats your opinion but you dont have the balls to even look at the content or back up your mouth and claims. Make a ban bet if you are so confident.
 

FrankWza

Member
Where did I say it was forum speak? No where. The thread was started by me. I shared information passed along to me that I asked about and got it verified. If thats not good enough for you then so be it. Thats your prerogative but the information came from a verified source who is a developer by the mods the forum you are currently on. If you dont trust the info because it doesn't follow the narrative in your head that doesn't discredit it. Thats not how it works.

But you dont have the balls to even look at the content or back up your mouth and claims.

First it was 2 years, now it could be 2 or 4 years. Your claim is not that they wont support 4 consoles therefore the series S's days are limited? Sure, whatever, thats your opinion but you dont have the balls to even look at the content or back up your mouth and claims. Make a ban bet if you are so confident.

Ill raise you. I’ll take a ban if I lose. You give op the $ he put into his console so he can put it towards a mid gen refresh. Since you’re so confident. We’ll say 3 years to split the difference

edit: does it have to be announced as discontinued? Is diminishing to the point of no aaa titles count as obsolete?
 
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Nikana

Go Go Neo Rangers!
Ill raise you. I’ll take a ban if I lose. You give op the $ he put into his console so he can put it towards a mid gen refresh. Since you’re so confident. We’ll say 3 years to split the difference

edit: does it have to be announced as discontinued? Is diminishing to the point of no aaa titles count as obsolete?
I am confused by your wording. I am under the impression you think the series S will no longer get software support in 2 years? Is that correct?

If so...

in 3 years time, the series S will still be supported.

If its announced that there is a new version of the S that actually has new hardware (something like the One to One X) and the Series S no longer gets AAA content, I lose.

New models of the same device does not count. (Xbox 360 to Xbox 360 S or larger SSD etc)
 

Nikana

Go Go Neo Rangers!
Nikana, you know you and me have big discrepancies in the way we view things.... that generated friction between us not only but a lot of times.

But you know I'm blue side... so it is fine to admit the side you are... there is nothing wrong in being a fan of one of the consoles.

My issues with you have always stemmed from the way you present information. You come off like a total know it all weiner that isnt interested in actually debating but instead of proving you are right. Has nothing to do with team blue or green. But thats simply my perspective.

I have always admitted and fully stand by I am a Nintendo fanboy. I prefer Nintendo to everything and that will never change.

i am just saying how it looks dude, i have seen you all in a lot of xbox threads, you seem to gravitate a lot more to spreading positively about xbox than ps5, these are my own personal thoughts, this is not some troll thing i am saying and i suspect a lot of people kinda notice the same thing.

If you think you're fair and spilt down the middle, fair enough and good for you, maybe you cant see your own bias or something, i don't know. but i think a lot of people will agree with me, it does not look that way.

But at the end of the day, does it really matter anymore.

If it doesnt matter than why do you care enough to try and "point out the bias?" Are you the neogaf police?

"If you think you're fair and spilt down the middle, fair enough and good for you, maybe you cant see your own bias or something, i don't know. but i think a lot of people will agree with me, it does not look that way."

Do you think you are somehow more wise than others here are something? I can't see my own bias? I have admitted my own bias many times. Simply because it doesn't align with whatever image you have of me in your head doesn't mean your perspective is right. I have over 9,000 posts on Neogaf. Have you read a majority of them? Or only the ones that fit your narrative? What about the hundreds of other posts between myself and others in PM's about the business side of games as well the technical aspects. We have them privately because unlike in the threads that are supposed to cover these aspects, you can actually share perspective without having a fanboy being a total moron.

The fact you are even tyring to paint me on one team and saying "others would agree," simply shows how blind you are to the overall picture of many posters on this very site. I can get a ton of people who would say everyone in the next gen thread is total fucking idiot. Do you think thats true? Doubt it.

I am telling you here and now, like I have before in PM's that you have sent, I have always had a Team Nintendo bias. I like their IP more than any other company. But again, you still try to paint me on team green. You are wrong. If you held a gun to my head and said which is better, Green or Blue. I would pick team blue.

But in stead you want to be apart of the group that does nothing but antagonize each other like gang war in a prison with your FUD lists and your :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: . You have no interests in actually debating games and the business of games. You want your team to win and you want other peoples team to die in a fire.

I tend to gravitate towards Game Pass threads in the more recent years than anything because I am a huge fan of Game Pass not only because of its value to the consumer but the business implications it has on the industry. Which is a majority of my post history. Its the business aspect of the industry.
 

ethomaz

Banned
My issues with you have always stemmed from the way you present information. You come off like a total know it all weiner that isnt interested in actually debating but instead of proving you are right. Has nothing to do with team blue or green. But thats simply my perspective.

I have always admitted and fully stand by I am a Nintendo fanboy. I prefer Nintendo to everything and that will never change.
That is fine.
I just posted to share that I really see you as a green side... that was my view... maybe now knowing it is not the case I will start to see with another "eyes" your posts.

BTW I always believed Fish (sircaw) was on green side too until very recently (like 2 months) I realized he is on PS side.
 
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sircaw

Banned
My issues with you have always stemmed from the way you present information. You come off like a total know it all weiner that isnt interested in actually debating but instead of proving you are right. Has nothing to do with team blue or green. But thats simply my perspective.

I have always admitted and fully stand by I am a Nintendo fanboy. I prefer Nintendo to everything and that will never change.



If it doesnt matter than why do you care enough to try and "point out the bias?" Are you the neogaf police?

"If you think you're fair and spilt down the middle, fair enough and good for you, maybe you cant see your own bias or something, i don't know. but i think a lot of people will agree with me, it does not look that way."

Do you think you are somehow more wise than others here are something? I can't see my own bias? I have admitted my own bias many times. Simply because it doesn't align with whatever image you have of me in your head doesn't mean your perspective is right. I have over 9,000 posts on Neogaf. Have you read a majority of them? Or only the ones that fit your narrative? What about the hundreds of other posts between myself and others in PM's about the business side of games as well the technical aspects. We have them privately because unlike in the threads that are supposed to cover these aspects, you can actually share perspective without having a fanboy being a total moron.

The fact you are even tyring to paint me on one team and saying "others would agree," simply shows how blind you are to the overall picture of many posters on this very site. I can get a ton of people who would say everyone in the next gen thread is total fucking idiot. Do you think thats true? Doubt it.

I am telling you here and now, like I have before in PM's that you have sent, I have always had a Team Nintendo bias. I like their IP more than any other company. But again, you still try to paint me on team green. You are wrong. If you held a gun to my head and said which is better, Green or Blue. I would pick team blue.

But in stead you want to be apart of the group that does nothing but antagonize each other like gang war in a prison with your FUD lists and your :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy: . You have no interests in actually debating games and the business of games. You want your team to win and you want other peoples team to die in a fire.

I tend to gravitate towards Game Pass threads in the more recent years than anything because I am a huge fan of Game Pass not only because of its value to the consumer but the business implications it has on the industry. Which is a majority of my post history. Its the business aspect of the industry.

You can try all that but this and that, but a few weeks i personally saw you unwind on me on a thread with such vitriol i was fucking shocked and surprised at you.

I have never seen you do that to one of the xbox fans on this thread, i have never seen you take some to task as you tried to do that day. and there are plenty of those xbox fanatics on this forum that are 100 times worse than me with their fud and bullshit that sit on their side.

So if you think your on the straight and narrow good for you, don't try and justify to me, what i have clearly seen and experience is my personal feelings, and that's the way it stands in regards to you.

Does that make you a bad person, no it does not, have a look at all the people i called out, have i included you in that list, no i have not, i don't believe you are a xbox zealot but you def lean in their direction.

Loads of people here see you in that way, i am sorry it does not agree with your own perception of things, but that's the way it is.

If you don't agree with me it's fine, we disagree on a lot of things,
Its time to move on.
 

Nikana

Go Go Neo Rangers!
That is fine.
I just posted to share that I really see you as a green side... that was my view... maybe now knowing it is not the case I will start to see with another "eyes" your posts.

BTW I always believed Fish was on green side too until very recently (like 2 months) I realized he is on PS side.

I think where you and many others seem to gain this warped perspective is if anyone every questions anything you have to say about playstation, even more so if its paints team green in a better light, you tend to write them off as team green.

I look back to the thread I made with the info about Borderlands I shared with everyone. You and many others tried to paint me as agreeing with the developer on every aspect simply because I posted the information. Why you jumped to that conclusion I dont understand. I never once said yeah I agree with this developer entirely yet the minute I said anything about Series S in a positive light it became a mentality of I dont think Series S is an issue, when in reality I have never been a fan of the series S design philosophy.

You tend to jump to conclusions before you even have 10 percent of the story.
 

Nikana

Go Go Neo Rangers!
You can try all that but this and that, but a few weeks i personally saw you unwind on me on a thread with such vitriol i was fucking shocked and surprised at you.

I have never seen you do that to one of the xbox fans on this thread, i have never seen you take some to task as you tried to do that day. and there are plenty of those xbox fanatics on this forum that are 100 times worse than me with their fud and bullshit that sit on their side.

So if you think your on the straight and narrow good for you, don't try and justify to me, what i have clearly seen and experience is my personal feelings, and that's the way it stands in regards to you.

Does that make you a bad person, no it does not, have a look at all the people i called out, have i included you in that list, no i have not, i don't believe you are a xbox zealot but you def lean in their direction.

Loads of people here see you in that way, i am sorry it does not agree with your own perception of things, but that's the way it is.

If you don't agree with me it's fine, we disagree on a lot of things,
Its time to move on.

Your perspective of saying that there are xbox fanatics on this forums are 100x worse than you is rich as you really seem to think the drivel from both sides is somehow tolerable to anyone outside of your circle. It doesnt matter what side is throwing it, its all nonsense that solves nothing and is strictly console war bullshit. Its evolved to the point where people are getting bans, temporary and permanent, on both sides because eventually it boils down to pointless name calling and personal attacks. Over a plastic box. Its pathetic.

I called you out in that thread because you seem to think you are somehow above the people that post nonsense on these forums when you are just as responsible.You then go into a thread and act like you are the neogaf police "calling people out." Then say shit like the PS5 is the "real" next gen machine. THANKS SONY. Or post your FUD list as if its somehow shocking to see the internet make shit up. I believe you even said once the new machines hit you were going to leave because you didn't really care about console wars and included yourself for fun. Yet here we are.

Perhaps I was more inclined to call you out as you try to go into PMs with a lot of people and act like you are here just for the show and banter but then act like you are somehow on the winning side of a console war. I cant help but think of the line from Waiting:

GR7jaxNP_vNTvAkVmGKCmhkP1cPTJvtNhOpZHlEnhE1VSifA5jJlJtNxNaT3_R1npqo5yo7Wy1qwmb5xP4EJha_tKDLh5sw9-dDib26T5e2QFn4zAFHs2wJ94OQHHxKl6R4xvBXhdKzn_aJtuTDNLbURcelqNizrDiE


Nobody but the console warriors give a shit who leans what way. Even still you are trying to paint me as team green when I have told you its not true.
 

sircaw

Banned
Your perspective of saying that there are xbox fanatics on this forums are 100x worse than you is rich as you really seem to think the drivel from both sides is somehow tolerable to anyone outside of your circle. It doesnt matter what side is throwing it, its all nonsense that solves nothing and is strictly console war bullshit. Its evolved to the point where people are getting bans, temporary and permanent, on both sides because eventually it boils down to pointless name calling and personal attacks. Over a plastic box. Its pathetic.

I called you out in that thread because you seem to think you are somehow above the people that post nonsense on these forums when you are just as responsible.You then go into a thread and act like you are the neogaf police "calling people out." Then say shit like the PS5 is the "real" next gen machine. THANKS SONY. Or post your FUD list as if its somehow shocking to see the internet make shit up. I believe you even said once the new machines hit you were going to leave because you didn't really care about console wars and included yourself for fun. Yet here we are.

Perhaps I was more inclined to call you out as you try to go into PMs with a lot of people and act like you are here just for the show and banter but then act like you are somehow on the winning side of a console war. I cant help but think of the line from Waiting:

GR7jaxNP_vNTvAkVmGKCmhkP1cPTJvtNhOpZHlEnhE1VSifA5jJlJtNxNaT3_R1npqo5yo7Wy1qwmb5xP4EJha_tKDLh5sw9-dDib26T5e2QFn4zAFHs2wJ94OQHHxKl6R4xvBXhdKzn_aJtuTDNLbURcelqNizrDiE


Nobody but the console warriors give a shit who leans what way. Even still you are trying to paint me as team green when I have told you its not true.

Your Green dude, there is no two ways about it. I am not sure why you keep thinking your not. No amount of trying to attack me or defect your bias onto me is going to change that. This is about you m8, not me, i am 100% behind sony at this stage, they are delivering the goods. I can admit it,

As for this war side of this, i am here for the banter, i have said that from day one, do you think i really give a shit about little pieces of plastic. I don't care about the war, once this place dies down, i am off, looking for more fun, Once it picks up and there is something interesting to talk about and have a laugh at, i will be back, i am not a reset era clone devoid of fun or life, ii have always said that, most people know that, sorry it seems to be some weak catchphrase victory for you or something.

And don't give me your bullshit line of being more inclined to call you out because of bla bla bla, if you were 50/50 you would of called out Dynimate cop or funsocks or eastwood for there 100s of pages of bullshit.

You let them slide and gave them thumbs ups and lols,

Save your bullshit dude, your about as neutral as a fox in a hen house, everyone here can see it.

No amount of worming about is going to change that.
 
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Nikana

Go Go Neo Rangers!
Your Green dude, there is no two ways about it. I am not sure why you keep thinking your not. No amount of trying to attack me or defect your bias onto me is going to change that. This is about you m8, not me, i am 100% behind sony at this stage, they are delivering the goods. I can admit it,

As for this war side of this, i am here for the banter, i have said that from day one, do you think i really give a shit about little pieces of plastic. I don't care about the war, once this place dies down, i am off, looking for more fun, Once it picks up and there is something interesting to talk about and have a laugh at, i will be back, i am not a reset era clone devoid of fun or life, ii have always said that, most people know that, sorry it seems to be some weak catchphrase victory for you or something.

And don't give me your bullshit line of being more inclined to call you out because of bla bla bla, if you were 50/50 you would of called out Dynimate cop or funsocks or eastwood for there 100s of pages of bullshit.

You let them slide and gave them thumbs ups and lols,

Save your bullshit dude, your about as neutral as a fox in a hen house, everyone here can see it.

No amount of worming about is going to change that.

Literally have done all of those things. Go take a look at Dynamite Cops There is no series S thread.

I literally called Eastwood a fanboy in a PM to YOU.

I just told funsocks two days ago that he is wrong about API's.

But hey, keep trying.
 
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