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[Insane Metal]

If, You think the lod is a bug, then how do u think the ps5 is the best version when it had trouble staying at 120hz?

It didn't. It was one specific point, and that can possibly be fixed just like the LOD bug on the XSX. Still, PS5 has better textures, better AF, more vegetation among other things.

 

[onQ123]

It's a bug, what isn't is the fact PS5 can't handle the 120hz mode, it tanks really hard and has no VRR, that makes it unplayable even compared to Series S.

Small GPU just can't cut it, dropping a quarter of frames with tearing. Like they say Series X, 120fps and VRR you get a perfect game, the way it should be.

If you don't sit down somewhere lol

 

[Phunkydiabetic]

Someone please, photoshop a man using lawn mower here asap

I've been bitching about how shitty this game looks on PS5 despite having fun with it, I never knew the Xbox version was even worse. Wtf, my condolences. Xbox is in shambles.

 

[Insane Metal]

Better AF on PS5 "for some reason"

Average res "little bit higher" on PS5

Check the rocks ahead on the mountain. They look ok on PS5 yet they look muddy on XSX. Hell, in the picture below you can barely see the FIESTA written on the car on the XSX.

 

[MoistPenetration]

This is becoming a Xbone vs PS4 lvl of difference. Another sad gen for Xbox

 

[retsof624]

So Gears 5 and COD can look great at 120fps on Xbox but Dirt5 is looking like...dirt? Tf is going on?

 

[sublimit]

Yikes. This one is blood bath.

WTF is going on with Microsoft? (speaking of 120hz mode settings) "It's a bug"? That an entire mode. How is a whole rending mode, a bug?

Relax. It's because developers don't have the latest xbox tools yet.

Spoiler

 

[itsnotme]

Wow so the PS5 wins another vs dam what happened¿
Imagine what happens when the series X/S lose the only thing which they have going for it, it's only saving grace. Can't wait for that VRR update to come in

 

[Hezekiah]

Colt Eastwood says Dirt 5 on Series X is running at 60%. Only reason why it's close to parity with the PS5 version.

 

[cebri.one]

And this is Series X optimized game. Can't believe it is a simple bug, they surely tested this mode.

 

[squarealex]

w8 the tools

w8 the update

w8 MS Unlimited Cash

 

[LeftThumbstick]

Phil Spencer you motherfucker.

and blocked.

Jokes aside, the Xbox team or someone in the industry needs to start explaining whats going on here because it just makes them look really bad. They were all gung-ho on the "most powerful" console marketing. It looked good on paper but somethings clearly wrong, wether it be the "tools" or just a shitty API, only they and the devs of the games know so they better get ahead of it before the narrative is just stacked against them more so than it already is.

No one should be mad at PS fans for gloating right now either, they have every right to at this point.

 

[Agnostic2020]

thugstools vs professionaltools

This is biggest #grassgate i have seen in my life

 

[GrayFoxPL]

Remember when PS4 had minor issues with low AF in some game?

Note that this is what they call "A little bit higher resolution" and "slightly better texture filtering."

They're trying to downplay this shit so hard.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Someone please, photoshop a man using lawn mower here asap

 

[Black_Stride]

Xbox One version

 

[mancs]

be funny if a box fan , says ,...

hey , stop comparing greys , cos the box can't do true black! lmao.

blm...BLACK LEVELS MATTER.

 

[Agnostic2020]

Phil Spencer you motherfucker.

and blocked.

Jokes aside, the Xbox team or someone in the industry needs to start explaining whats going on here because it just makes them look really bad. They were all gung-ho on the "most powerful" console marketing. It looked good on paper but somethings clearly wrong, wether it be the "tools" or just a shitty API, only they and the devs of the games know so they better get ahead of it before the narrative is just stacked against them more so than it already is.

No one should be mad at PS fans for gloating right now either, they have every right to at this point.

Honestly if they didn't talk about power for 2 years and always try to belittle ps5 every chance their marketing team got (like 9tf ps5 ,fixed constant performance not variable for xsx , full rdna2 only xsx and s etc.) No one would have said anything .

They asked for this

 

[Coolwhhip]

 

[Armorian]

That's like a generational leap in graphics.

Gran Turismo 4 models

It depends on the game, obviously. Some games run at 4K on the Series S.

2D or/and indie games? XSS is a shit show right now, you get half the performance (ACV) or fucked up image quality.

 

[assurdum]

So developers said is a bit more tough to reach the same result on series X but aren't exactly the "same result" . What is it surprising series X continue to stay at lower res in the dynamic setup. This machine is truly a bizzarre beast. Man we are almost at the same level of ps3 weirdness.

 

[JonkyDonk]

Riky having a mental breakdown in this thread.

 

[Stiflers Mom]

Snowing in Rio de Janeiro... lmao. Yeah, happens here all the time.

Probably a custom match with custom weather, but still funny as fuck.

I remember it snowing a lot on a party I once was when I visited Rio.

 

[shenmue mugen]

PS5 and XSX trading blows beautifully. No matter which console you choose you won't be disappointed.

 

[killatopak]

Hopefully Xbox gets the bugs fixed soon.

I mean I know we all wanna bully Xbox and think that this isn’t a bug but the PS5 also has a color bug in SDR mode which majority will play on so I hope the devs fix whatever’s broken in their game.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Phil Spencer you motherfucker.

and blocked.

Jokes aside, the Xbox team or someone in the industry needs to start explaining whats going on here because it just makes them look really bad. They were all gung-ho on the "most powerful" console marketing. It looked good on paper but somethings clearly wrong, wether it be the "tools" or just a shitty API, only they and the devs of the games know so they better get ahead of it before the narrative is just stacked against them more so than it already is.

No one should be mad at PS fans for gloating right now either, they have every right to at this point.

It's funny how Sony never marketed the PS5 as being the most powerful console or having the best multiplatform game. Yet Digital Foundry is doing that marketing for them with these comparisons.

Microsoft really need to fix this situation and fast because they can't let this belief spread if it isn't true.

 

[Arioco]

 

[Agnostic2020]

Haha oh god thats good

 

[sircaw]

Phil Spencer you motherfucker.

and blocked.

Jokes aside, the Xbox team or someone in the industry needs to start explaining whats going on here because it just makes them look really bad. They were all gung-ho on the "most powerful" console marketing. It looked good on paper but somethings clearly wrong, wether it be the "tools" or just a shitty API, only they and the devs of the games know so they better get ahead of it before the narrative is just stacked against them more so than it already is.

No one should be mad at PS fans for gloating right now either, they have every right to at this point.

Finally, sense.

 

[Hendrick's]

This is really indefensible at this point. MS need to make a statement. If the console is not as powerful as they stated, fine, just come out and say that. If they are working on a fix, good, say that. Otherwise, we are going to have months of this shit.

At this point it is just embarrassing for MS. They need to own it.

 

[sircaw]

This is really indefensible at this point. MS need to make a statement. If the console is not as powerful as they stated, fine, just come out and say that. If they are working on a fix, good, say that. Otherwise, we are going to have months of this shit.

At this point it is just embarrassing for MS. They need to own it.

you get a from me and a shoulder to cry on.

 

[assurdum]

Honestly if they didn't talk about power for 2 years and always try to belittle ps5 every chance their marketing team got (like fixed constant performance not variable , full rdna2 etc.) No one would have said anything .

They asked for this

Man some people should research the twitter conversation between Penello and Warren when ps5 specs has been revealed, the lolz around the 36CUs and the variable clock they did. I can't find it anymore, probably has been cut off but it's something of tragical comic.

 

[BluRayHiDef]

This is really indefensible at this point. MS need to make a statement. If the console is not as powerful as they stated, fine, just come out and say that. If they are working on a fix, good, say that. Otherwise, we are going to have months of this shit.

At this point it is just embarrassing for MS. They need to own it.

I honestly think that once the development tools are improved, the Xbox Series X will pull ahead, and I'm not being biased because I have a PlayStation 5 and don't intend on getting an Xbox Series X.

 

[SplunkyMunkey]

Unfortunate bug, hopefully be fixed soon.

How about PS5 framerate tanking to the low 90's though, in 120hz mode it gets outperformed by both Series X and S, I saw as low as 91fps in that one race, shocking drops and with no VRR would make the game unplayable.

If you look at it that way that mode is using the details as if it was was in IQ mode

 

[Keihart]

That's a fucking bloodbath if i've ever seen one and in a crossgen tittle no less...who would have guessed?

 

[Armorian]

Check the rocks ahead on the mountain. They look ok on PS5 yet they look muddy on XSX. Hell, in the picture below you can barely see the FIESTA written on the car on the XSX.

Plus in image quality shot texture look higher resolution on PS5

They said Xbox holds it well, the PS5 doesn't, low 90s in that video. That will be some series judder and ruins gameplay. No VRR so you're stuck with it, PS5 just can't cut it.

They didn't show same spot/race on XSX so there is that... We don't know how much it dips

 

[waquzy]

This is becoming a new standard...

 

[Greggy]

The most annoying this in this comparison is hearing "Once more people have a VRR display, these frame drops issues will be irrelevant".
Splashing 500 bucks on these boxes that have the 8k and 120Hz logos on them isn't enough, we also all need an OLed CX with VRR? Please. There's noe excuse for missing dynamic 4k/60 in these early games, my One X was doing it in almost every game.
Clearly Xbox suffers from a non hardware related issue. DF is calling it a "bug" that is being addressed by the devs but that's a ot of games from different devs being affected and it's only so long until a perception starts to be created and maybe sticks. Xbox's management has to put out a statement about the state of their tools and the support and time that 3rd party devs had available for launch games. There's a pandemic so the public can understand.
The only reassuring thing at the moment is that first party games on the XSX have looked much better than their 3rd party counterpart. Gears 5, Halo MCC, Sea of Thieves, Ori have shown great performance. There's no reason why Dirt 5 (also cross-gen) shouldn't be able to. Very curious.

 

[Epic Sax CEO]

Sounds like DF got an email from MS's marketing department. The tone of this video is completely different from previous comparisons. Also added in the line that we can't really compare these launch titles because it's too early. Hmmm.

And they're absolutely right.
We really can't, not when it's obvious now that there's something wrong with the boxes development environment. Fortunately this can improve with time and right now there's not way to know you much it'll improve when all these problems are solved. Will the SeX get ahead as expected on multiplat games or in the end the PS5 is close enough that will not make a difference outside first party exclusives?

Let's laugh as much as we can for now, but please, "never go full retarded" please and lost sight of things.

 

[Kurimao]

No, its a Switch port.

 

[SegaSnatcher]

Abou that.

Nice, XSX has a classic 360 graphics mode? Phil about that nostalgia.

 

[Captain Hero]

People still watch these WWE shows from DF and forgot about the whole console .. I respect the effort DF did but guys have fun whether you on XSX or PS5. Chaos is a ladder, and if you look at it for too long you will forget how to enjoy a game. That ladder is console war. You are going to play a game not drawing one! So who gives a shit if I can see that exact shadow or see that plate in 4K ?


Yes PS5 has the upper hand on some but doing console war over every DF analysis is just unbelievable.

 

[Hendrick's]

you get a from me and a should to cry on.

Haha, thanks for your support.

 

[vpance]

They spent over 2 mins damage controlling for Xbox. Tools and covid!

John: “I don’t think we can take anything away from these initial launch comparisons. That’s really important to note.”

 

[reinking]

Colt Eastwood says Dirt 5 on Series X is running at 60%. Only reason why it's close to parity with the PS5 version.

Does he give a reason why? Wasn't Dirt 5 a marketing partner with Xbox? Seems like a big oof if they released the XB version at 60% or mixed up the X and S code. These excuses are just that. Excuses.

 

[Dodkrake]

The Series X will be holding back the PS5 in a couple of years. What a shitshow of a console.

 

[Entroyp]

Damn in twitter xsx is butt of all jokes now. Ms needed to be more prepared.

Another win for ps5 but no point In counting when they all are better on ps5

I’ve seen a lot of “Consoles should have released on 2021” bullshit all around the internet by hurt x fanboys. Nah mans, Sony did their homework and came prepared on a technical level and with content. Don’t drag Sony down because MS is incompetent.

 

[BootsLoader]

What I can’t understand is, how Xbox series X runs worse with lower detail settings. This doesn’t make sense. PS5 runs better with higher settings? Like....wtf bro?

 

[Caio]

Yet again, another win for the best place to play multiplats.

Not even God knows what he will do with PS6

 

[longdi]

Could be an honest mistake from Codemasters. I think they're mistakenly using XSS settings on the XSX.

I think so too.
But i want to see some kind of response from MS. This is not good PR start.