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Mandalorian Season 2 | DIsney+ | October 30th

cormack12

Gold Member
I enjoyed it for the most part.

I agree with -Arcadia- -Arcadia- - there's something off about certain parts of the choreography, especially when moving quickly. I didn't like the scene where Ashoka was meant to be Ubisofting the guys at the start. It reminded me of some of the worst parts of the Vampires in Val Helsing. Then I thought about Kate Beckinsale for a bit. Was a good time. I liked the one on one - this is where the epsiode shone the most for me in action, it was very deliberate and felt much more like the Obi Wan/Darth fight in style (though it was still quicker in tempo)



That name for the child has just destroyed most of its 'cute' factor. Though I suspect it was intentional as although he physically looks young, he obviously isn't. The beskar spear is fucking awesome. I still can't quite put a benchmark on Mando's skill. Some episodes he seems almost comic relief, the others he's gunslinging with a sixth sense for a no look headshot.

I didn't like the sets around the forest, they looked cheap and fake. Do we assume that Ashoka killed the killed magistrate as well? The best parts were the chats between Ashoka and Mando, the test and the duel for me.
 
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-Arcadia-

Banned
I didn’t mind Grogu. It felt like a pretty natural extension of the episode finally revealing answers to some of the questions we had. I kind of want to take the opportunity to say I really liked how that was done — knowing how much he’s been through, and tying him into the history of Star Wars, really adds another dimension to him as a character.

It’s just strange doing a name after all this time. Like Din Dijarin was. Much like that, I expect neither the fans or show will use it all that much, preferring the archetypical view of the characters.
 
I enjoyed it for the most part.

I agree with -Arcadia- -Arcadia- - there's something off about certain parts of the choreography, especially when moving quickly. I didn't like the scene where Ashoka was meant to be Ubisofting the guys at the start. It reminded me of some of the worst parts of the Vampires in Val Helsing. Then I thought about Kate Beckinsale for a bit. Was a good time. I liked the one on one - this is where the epsiode shone the most for me in action, it was very deliberate and felt much more like the Obi Wan/Darth fight in style (though it was still quicker in tempo)



That name for the child has just destroyed most of its 'cute' factor. Though I suspect it was intentional as although he physically looks young, he obviously isn't. The beskar spear is fucking awesome. I still can't quite put a benchmark on Mando's skill. Some episodes he seems almost comic relief, the others he's gunslinging with a sixth sense for a no look headshot.

I didn't like the sets around the forest, they looked cheap and fake. Do we assume that Ashoka killed the killed magistrate as well? The best parts were the hats between Ashoka and Mando, the test and the duel for me.

I immediately thought that Yoda's species ages really slow. The Child is probably like 90.
 

Stitch

Gold Member
It's pretty much live-action Clone Wars and Lucas & Filoni had lots of Western and Samurai movie influences in Clone Wars. There's a Clone Wars episode that is pretty much a Seven Samurai copy. Then they made a similar episode in Mandalorian Season 1 :D
 

JimiNutz

Banned
...They are going to use the Netflix/CW model aren't they.

I haven't watched the CW or Netflix model so not sure how connected they are but I imagine each season will be stand alone in the same way that you don't have to have seen Iron Man to enjoy Captain America or Thor but I imagine that each show will have some links to the others.

Sounds like Disney+ will be running:

The Mandalorian
Obi-Wan
Boba Fett
Ashoka

All at the same time. Maybe Grogu will be the common link between them all?
 

dan76

Member
I watched the episode a second time, and whilst not as good as the first watch it's still up there.
I hope they keep the current theme of Mando and Grogu going from planet to planet having adventures and don't go too much into Rebels / Clone Wars stuff. Give Ashoka her own show, as I'm in the camp preferring blasters to space wizards. I think what they're doing is just giving fans a glimpse of these other characters and what they're up to. Maybe Fett won't come back, it might be enough just to know that he's still out there.

The absolute worst thing they could do is have Grogu start to speak and turn this into Jedi training. I'm sure some fans want that but it would kill it for me. Maybe they've written themselves into a corner. Mando can't give up Grogu, they have to stay together or there is no show.
 

Starfield

Member
I watched the episode a second time, and whilst not as good as the first watch it's still up there.
I hope they keep the current theme of Mando and Grogu going from planet to planet having adventures and don't go too much into Rebels / Clone Wars stuff. Give Ashoka her own show, as I'm in the camp preferring blasters to space wizards. I think what they're doing is just giving fans a glimpse of these other characters and what they're up to. Maybe Fett won't come back, it might be enough just to know that he's still out there.

The absolute worst thing they could do is have Grogu start to speak and turn this into Jedi training. I'm sure some fans want that but it would kill it for me. Maybe they've written themselves into a corner. Mando can't give up Grogu, they have to stay together or there is no show.
They already teased kind of whats going to happen by the end of the season. They will go to this planet and Grogu will decide to stay with Mando instead of Yedi training. Obvious af. Also disney gear wont sell itself. needs more baby yoda scenes in s3
 

GreyHorace

Member
Pretty great shoutout to a Kurosawa classic.

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At least Dave Filoni learned from Lucas in that sense.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
I've not watched anything with Ashoka, but she was pretty great. Rosario Dawson nailed it in terms of being an interestingly character.

Really good episode, the Master she was looking for is obviously a set up for a future storyline (or spin off?). We have Bo Katan looking for Moff Gideon, Mando's quest and this.

Place your bets, do you think we will see
a recast Luke turn up?

I think we’re going to see a deep fake younger looking Luke like they did with Will Smith in Gemini Man (which I think was very convincing) ... or ...Mace Windu since you heard his voice project to Rey, meaning he had to learn from someone and that could only happen after he survived the fall.
 

DeafTourette

Perpetually Offended
1: I had serious doubts about a live-action actor portraying an animated character. Rosario Dawson was absolutely great, and now we have this kind of awesome portrayal of one character from teen, to young adult, to adult, to old, wise Jedi (I guess Star Wars specializes at that).

2: Did we just get a Samurai fight, at the same time as an old West shootout? Bless this show. I won’t pretend I’m a super-fan of such things, but I love the influences they have on this.

3: I love and have strong emotional feelings for a puppet. Even the possibility of him having to leave Mando, and the bond they share, gets me.

4: The ways scenes breathe in this series, and have a ton of emotional resonance, without a lot of dialogue, is brilliant. Going back to those previously mentioned influences.

5: I thought the fights were a little weak, which seems to be a long-time flaw of the show. Maybe it’s adjusting back to realistic lightsaber fighting, after watching prequels, but I’m not 100% sure.

6: The direction is absolutely gorgeous. From the dust sweeping through the town as the hero steps up to a confrontation, to the quiet, beautifully framed moments between... Grogu, Mando, and Ahsoka.

7: I’m concerned about how much I’m starting to love this show. It’s so hard to trust again. At some point I stopped watching this because I was bored, and it was halfway decent, but because I genuinely really, really like it. That feels dangerous.

8: If darker skintones adapt that well to orange, is it possible that Donald John Trump is secretly a black man?


I think the fight scenes were more realistic is because the magistrate is the daughter of Master Dan Inosanto, and goddaughter of Bruce Lee.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
I think they flat-out said it in Season 1. Like fifty or something.

They said he was born around the same time Anakin was, so he has to be mid to late 50’s or early 60’s.

It’s possible he’s also offspring from Yoda and Yaddle. The Jedi Council did make exceptions for Jedi of species that were almost going extinct. They allowed Ki-Adi-Mundi to have multiple wives for example to keep the species from dying out.
 

GreyHorace

Member
I think we’re going to see a deep fake younger looking Luke like they did with Will Smith in Gemini Man (which I think was very convincing) ... or ...Mace Windu since you heard his voice project to Rey, meaning he had to learn from someone and that could only happen after he survived the fall.

I doubt Luke will show up on The Mandalorian. That seems like an event reserved for Ahsoka's own series, if it ever comes.

And I'd be sorely disappointed if they never meet. Luke I think would still want to know more about his father's history and what better way than to reminisce with the only living being in the galaxy who knew Anakin before he became Darth Vader? Ahsoka on the other hand would be intrigued at meeting Anakin's son. And here's where my lack of knowledge regarding Clone Wars rears it's head, so I have to ask. Did Ahsoka know that Anakin had children?
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
I doubt Luke will show up on The Mandalorian. That seems like an event reserved for Ahsoka's own series, if it ever comes.

And I'd be sorely disappointed if they never meet. Luke I think would still want to know more about his father's history and what better way than to reminisce with the only living being in the galaxy who knew Anakin before he became Darth Vader? Ahsoka on the other hand would be intrigued at meeting Anakin's son. And here's where my lack of knowledge regarding Clone Wars rears it's head, so I have to ask. Did Ahsoka know that Anakin had children?

Didn’t realize they were planning on making her own live action series!? I knew of Obi-Wan (which I’m so stoked for), but Ahsoka too? I’m so in, and that does make sense.
 

GreyHorace

Member
Didn’t realize they were planning on making her own live action series!? I knew of Obi-Wan (which I’m so stoked for), but Ahsoka too? I’m so in, and that does make sense.

It's only a rumor at this point, so I wouldn't get my hopes up. But I doubt they cast a star like Rosario Dawson in the role as a one-off. But there's rumblings that Dawson signed a multi-year contract with Lucasfilm. Again though, all just rumor and speculation.
 

Romulus

Member
It's only a rumor at this point, so I wouldn't get my hopes up. But I doubt they cast a star like Rosario Dawson in the role as a one-off. But there's rumblings that Dawson signed a multi-year contract with Lucasfilm. Again though, all just rumor and speculation.


Is Dawson really a star at this point? Looking at her recent work, I'd say she be all over this opportunity. I really hope this happens.
 

#Phonepunk#

Banned
there is only so long Mando can play the oldies and riff on Clone Wars stuff. it's ancient history. they are eventually going into the First Order and Snoke and all that stuff. the show is going to end up trying to fix the ST.

i think people are just dazed right now from the nostalgia overload. we all know where this is headed. Luke is a failure. no Jedi at all. Palpatine reboot. 1,000s of Star Destroyers. etc.
 
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Batiman

Banned
They said he was born around the same time Anakin was, so he has to be mid to late 50’s or early 60’s.

It’s possible he’s also offspring from Yoda and Yaddle. The Jedi Council did make exceptions for Jedi of species that were almost going extinct. They allowed Ki-Adi-Mundi to have multiple wives for example to keep the species from dying out.
Now I’m imagining Yoda banging Yaddle. Thx for finally ruining Star Wars for me
 

Calcium

Banned
Still enjoying the show, but I'm starting to see the show slipping away from me the more they lean on Clone Wars/Rebels stuff. I didn't watch either, but I have a passing knowledge of their contributions to the lore. If Filoni wants to continue playing in his sandbox give him a spin-off, but let Mandolorian keep being the space western that doesn't fuck with the larger picture.

Also, it'd be really fucking cool if...
Mace Windu came to Tython to train Grogu. Sam fucking Jackson all up in this bitch.
 

MagnesD3

Member
there is only so long Mando can play the oldies and riff on Clone Wars stuff. it's ancient history. they are eventually going into the First Order and Snoke and all that stuff. the show is going to end up trying to fix the ST.

i think people are just dazed right now from the nostalgia overload. we all know where this is headed. Luke is a failure. no Jedi at all. Palpatine reboot. 1,000s of Star Destroyers. etc.
I hope not, they need to stay the hell away from the toxic Sequel Trilogy, there is no fixing that abomination.
 
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-Arcadia-

Banned
Did Ahsoka know that Anakin had children?

I don’t think so. I don’t recall it ever mentioned to her.

there is only so long Mando can play the oldies and riff on Clone Wars stuff. it's ancient history. they are eventually going into the First Order and Snoke and all that stuff. the show is going to end up trying to fix the ST.

i think people are just dazed right now from the nostalgia overload. we all know where this is headed. Luke is a failure. no Jedi at all. Palpatine reboot. 1,000s of Star Destroyers. etc.

Judging by the behind-the-scenes and the polite avoidances or reluctant acknowledgement that the sequels even exist, the people behind this show hate it just as much. I wouldn’t be surprised if it just stays in its post-Return of the Jedi mode and keeps showing us the world after the Empire fell. They certainly have ample time to do so.
 

#Phonepunk#

Banned
finally saw Chapter 13 The Jedi and it was simply wonderful. really the coolest Jedi stuff since the prequels. Rosario Dawson was amazing.

it was a great little side story. lore dumps and a very basic save-the-town scaffolding, which the badass-ness of Asoka being the main driving feature of the episode. hell yes.
 

Wvrs

Member
I'm so intrigued by how Thrawn fits into all this. The new Thrawn novels depict him as an anti-hero who has a low opinion of the Emperor. He only feigns subservience because he believes the Empire is necessary to defend his own people from an external threat.

I can't see Thrawn being onboard with what are presumably Moff Gideon's plans to bring back the Emperor.

What if Thrawn and Gideon are pitted against each other? Thrawn is trying to gather the Imperial remnants under his own banner, Gideon is trying to continue the Emperor's legacy.

They could soft-retcon the sequels and have it so the New Republic is fighting against Thrawn's faction for the majority of the post-ROTJ era and the First Order, created by Gideon, are seen as just an extremist cult until the events of the sequel trilogy and are a side-threat compared to the true Imperial remnants under Thrawn.
 

Oberstein

Member
Okay, the last episode was fine. That said, the villain who likes to torture peasants at the entrance of her dungeon was a little too much.
In any case, this show gives good indications for a game.
 

#Phonepunk#

Banned
really enjoyed it but all the hyperbole is hilarious "the Star Wars universe will never be the same" lol i mean Clone Wars was always canon, this is an interquel series just like the Clone Wars, and tbh aside from Jedi doing prequel era Jedi things, not much else is learned here. put Yoda on a rock and maybe somebody will show up? haha you have to be kidding me. that's some mystery box stuff right there. JJ would be proud.

the force stuff in the swamp with BB Yoda was real charming and real awesome. that's a thing the movies didn't allow for, they didn't ever slow down. part of the fun of the originals was just hanging out with these characters in these worlds. the sequels have them rushing from one manipulative important plot point to the next on some desperate attempt to come across as sincere. this is much more '70s in both it's pacing and art design. it's pointless a lot of the times but that's the point. the ST was trying so hard to be MEANINGFUL that it failed.

just comparing cut length alone, TV and movie SW are two dramatically different mediums. the movies have no breathing room. here, there is much more time to soak in the atmosphere, for visuals to have more of an impact.

production wise this is the best looking stuff yet. it's a real shame they didn't just let Feloni supervise everything from the start. sign me up for an Asoka series.
 

Kenpachii

Member
fantastic episode i liked the more horror type of aspect of it which made the jedi feel a lot more powerful as result.

Can't wait to see the next one.
 

eot

Banned
The fight sequence at the end seemed implausible to me, you're telling me she can't just force push the lady into the water or something? Instead she even loses one of her lightsabers. Yeah cinematic tension and all that, but still. Also the immediate cut after asking about the general was too sudden I thought.

Rosario did well. Michael Biehn was a total waste. Cool ep overall.
Dammit, he looked familiar but I didn't realise it was him, or that he was so old now :/
 

Kenpachii

Member
The fight sequence at the end seemed implausible to me, you're telling me she can't just force push the lady into the water or something? Instead she even loses one of her lightsabers. Yeah cinematic tension and all that, but still. Also the immediate cut after asking about the general was too sudden I thought.


Dammit, he looked familiar but I didn't realise it was him, or that he was so old now :/

To me it was like a sign that she wasn't a god mode character but that she also takes risks going into there which also showcased with the mandalorian needed to protect her back while fighting her to not get shot from a blindspot.
 
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MagnesD3

Member
The fight sequence at the end seemed implausible to me, you're telling me she can't just force push the lady into the water or something? Instead she even loses one of her lightsabers. Yeah cinematic tension and all that, but still. Also the immediate cut after asking about the general was too sudden I thought.


Dammit, he looked familiar but I didn't realise it was him, or that he was so old now :/
I think she was wanting to crush her without the force, she had been crushing up till that point, notice as soon as she lost one saber she stopped messing around.
 

Stouffers

Banned
I'm so intrigued by how Thrawn fits into all this. The new Thrawn novels depict him as an anti-hero who has a low opinion of the Emperor. He only feigns subservience because he believes the Empire is necessary to defend his own people from an external threat.

I can't see Thrawn being onboard with what are presumably Moff Gideon's plans to bring back the Emperor.

What if Thrawn and Gideon are pitted against each other? Thrawn is trying to gather the Imperial remnants under his own banner, Gideon is trying to continue the Emperor's legacy.

They could soft-retcon the sequels and have it so the New Republic is fighting against Thrawn's faction for the majority of the post-ROTJ era and the First Order, created by Gideon, are seen as just an extremist cult until the events of the sequel trilogy and are a side-threat compared to the true Imperial remnants under Thrawn.
That’ll be explored in the Thrawn series after the Rosario Dawson series ends.
 

eot

Banned


This episode was everything omgogmgogogdhfjjasjtusjtatjiehriajhMFMFMHMkfdkgkgidirjyepl

This edit just makes me think of how much better the scene in Kill Bill is.
Not that I'm shitting on this one, I think the scene was fine, but putting the music there just invites an unfavorable comparison in my opinion.

Also, Ahsoka(?) doesn't seem very composed for a Jedi who was just talking about how baby Yoda has too many emotions.
 

MagnesD3

Member
This edit just makes me think of how much better the scene in Kill Bill is.
Not that I'm shitting on this one, I think the scene was fine, but putting the music there just invites an unfavorable comparison in my opinion.

Also, Ahsoka(?) doesn't seem very composed for a Jedi who was just talking about how baby Yoda has too many emotions.
Well funny thing about that
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