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[DF] - Borderlands 3 PS5 vs Xbox Series X: 4K60 and 120fps Modes Tested - Plus Series S Comparisons!
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Explosive Zombie
Banned
It's like there's nuance to the discussion and there's no clear winner especially if DF needs to qualify XS' win with the idea you have VRR on your TV.
You must be new to Sonygaf?
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
From the article:
The bottom line? Both consoles are prone to fluctuations at 120Hz, some kicking in harder on Series X at points, others on PS5 - but on the whole it is Series X with a lead, while PS5 has a small selection of visual improvements and faster loading times. For anyone looking at getting the best 120Hz performance though, the vote has to go on Series X. For the higher baseline performance, and having VRR, it has an advantage. There's little to split the two in 60fps, but 120Hz gives Microsoft's machine an identifiable plus.
See above, advantage Xbox with or without VRR.
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Explosive Zombie
Banned
If 60 is the same why not give PS5 the advantage for better textures, foliage density, etc.? Is it because they don't even mention those issues?
sircaw
Banned
i think we know why, they are afraid of the xbox zealots on twitter attacking them lol.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
I'm legit confused, since XBOX Gaf pretty specifically told me in the CoD showdown that everyone plays at 60FPS not 120
KaiserBecks
Member
This „nuance“ doesnt seem to exist whenever PS5 has a slight advantage.
Evilms
Banned
Just another big damage control by DF, Series X has no advantage, so to balance things out a bit they cite the vrr which 99% of players will not have this option.
On the other hand the PS5 which has better shadows, better grass density, faster loadings, + dualsense... it doesn't count
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Explosive Zombie
Banned
In the CoD thread I said myself it's a problem the 60FPS mode isn't up to snuff but then it turned out all the drops came post-patch and can often be fixed by restarting a checkpoint, meaning the drops are an error that can be fixed. That said I was giving X the edge, myself before that stuff came out. Very few people are taking actual advantage of 120FPS modes or have VRR so the ideal for now is to have a great 60FPS mode and since Borderlands 3 on PS5 has better IQ on PS5 at 60FPS and shorter load times I'd call it a win, of course if you need it to be a factual win we all agree on it's not going to happen, maybe you have a VRR TV at 120hz and prefer the game in that mode even with worse IQ, it's your prerogative.
Valued Gamer
Banned
There is no win in this for any console.
Good times.
Good times.
Redlancet
Banned
after all the fuss xbox fans have been doing this past year...even a tie (if its one) its a win,so take the L and be gratious about it,lose with style son
sircaw
Banned
Just another big damage control by DF, Series X has no advantage, so to balance things out a bit they cite the vrr which 99% of players will not have this option.
On the other hand the PS5 which has better shadows, grass density, fast loadings, dualsense... it doesn't count
Look at this post above, this user hits the nail on the head, and people always say well i don't know why people think digital foundry are bias or something.
How is it possible for them to miss out on those features, they are fucking MASSIVE.
What the hell is digital foundry doing sometimes is a wonder to me.
Cherrypepsi
Member
Just another big damage control by DF, Series X has no advantage, so to balance things out a bit they cite the vrr which 99% of players will not have this option.
On the other hand the PS5 which has better shadows, better grass density, faster loadings, + dualsense... it doesn't count
No, it all doesnt count.
I think after today's comparison it's safe to say that xbox won this generation.
LMJ
Member
Yeah... not seeing how the Sex would get a "win" here (because its a war you see lol) as the PS5 clearly looks better overall but performs slightly worse due to a feature that will be patched later? (VRR)
Seems at most this would be a draw, or more accurately a win regardless of console...as I imagine more patches will come for both
Seems at most this would be a draw, or more accurately a win regardless of console...as I imagine more patches will come for both
Evilms
Banned
After that it's only Tom's opinion, but the differences between the two versions speak for themselves, lying and tampering doesn't help.
I hope Vg Tech and NXG will look into this.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
sircaw
Banned
as far as i know devil man cry was slightly better on the xbox, whats your point?
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onnextflix5
Member
Stop talking about things u have no idea about, u sound like a sore loser, face it, it is just a badly designed hardware, apart first party no one is going to design a game around xsx, and they shouldn't need to, ms have messed up here.
LOL Tom is the same guy who couldn't care less about PS5 having an edge in 120Hz on COD while he was all shouting about the PS5 having some drops in 60fps RT (because of a bug)!
This guy is eager to claim Xbox has some advantages, his bias is so obvious.
The reality is basically a tie/ overall win for PS5 with better graphics, faster loadings and same performance at 60Hz while a few drops more in 120Hz.
Again the usual crew who continue to expect XSX to have actual wins are the only losers.
This guy is eager to claim Xbox has some advantages, his bias is so obvious.
The reality is basically a tie/ overall win for PS5 with better graphics, faster loadings and same performance at 60Hz while a few drops more in 120Hz.
Again the usual crew who continue to expect XSX to have actual wins are the only losers.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
They patched the 60fps issue on ps5
Yes my friend, it comes from Xbox One version. It´s very very very obvious that could bit a ver small differences in quality mode in some ares.
overall wi?? please don´t be trolll, 3s faster a load (it´s ridiculous) and what better graphics???? two plants more??? please objectivity objectivity objectivity objectivity objectivity objectivity objectivity objectivity!!!!!!!!
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Yeah, the load times on PS5 are nice.
I had to keep both PS4 and PS5 versions installed until the only transfer one character over issue was fixed. Whatever the case was, it's no longer an issue for me. The PS4 is now deleted.
PS5 version is about 20GB smaller than PS4, and that's with me having an extra DLC on PS5 I didn't have on PS4.
DualSense triggers are nice. Can tell the difference between guns by the trigger.
I had to keep both PS4 and PS5 versions installed until the only transfer one character over issue was fixed. Whatever the case was, it's no longer an issue for me. The PS4 is now deleted.
PS5 version is about 20GB smaller than PS4, and that's with me having an extra DLC on PS5 I didn't have on PS4.
DualSense triggers are nice. Can tell the difference between guns by the trigger.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
This is why we need average fpses, bottom 5/1/0.1% so we can know which machine has that sweet 1% advantage photofinish victory!not so fast.
Game drops frames like crazy on both machines. You see the same drops on the ps5 that you do on the series x in each scene. a few seconds before this screenshot, the ps5 goes down to the 90s.
NullZ3r0
Banned
Devs are just porting the previous Gen game and tweaking the performance. I had this suspicion before, but now its confirmed.
Obviously this equals a Series X win...
The face offs threads will continue to be hilarious. I'm loving it, lmao.
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Just read the summary.
Better shadows, foliage density, better loadings on PS5. Convincing DualSense implementation that can't be replicated on Xbox.
Same performance at 60fps, both have drops at 120Hz and perform similarly with a few more drops on PS5.
The same 120Hz performance that no one cared about in COD
If this isn't an overall tie or slight win for PS5 I don't know what it is.
It's hilarious to see some people desperate to find victories for XSX that are simply not happening.
bxrz
Member
You could say the opposite for Sony fanboys lmaoXboxGAF last week - CoD is better because the majority of the gamers won't play in 120fps mode
XBoxGAF Today - 120fps mode is more stable and it gives XsX the win.
All I've been seeing on here is "The only thing that matters is consistent frames". Now you don't have consistent frames and its "better foliage density" (whatever the hell that means)
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AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
True for both consoles, not just one.
DavidGzz
Member
I saw the exact same argument from people jealous about Warzone being 120 on XSX only. People change arguments depending on what suits them best. If XSX had more foliage you'd have the blue team saying "oh wow, tufts of grass that no one will notice, gimme that silky smoove 120fps, Xbox loses again lol!"
Romulus
Member
Not to mention the drops in frames when above 90fps aren't that noticeable, and when they're already wild to begin with it just makes it difficult to gave a real advantage.
Not only that, is the extra foliage being rendered further on PS5? That could easily be the reason why.
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M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
I cannot wait for Halo: Infinite for Craig our savior to became more than just a face from one screenshot. It's given, that he is mascot of this gen.No, it all doesnt count.
I think after today's comparison it's safe to say that xbox won this generation.
But obviously there is this on same engine:
Which got fixed later on if not mistaken. But yeah, draw calls were called out multiple times past gen.
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Well it´s your opinion... only that, one more opinion.Just read the summary.
Better shadows, foliage density, better loadings on PS5. Convincing DualSense implementation that can't be replicated on Xbox.
Same performance at 60fps, both have drops at 120Hz and perform similarly with a few more drops on PS5.
The same 120Hz performance that no one cared about in COD
If this isn't an overall tie or slight win for PS5 I don't know what it is.
It's hilarious to see some people desperate to find victories for XSX that are simply not happening.
Knitted Knight
Banned
Digital VRRundry. HUGE WIN!
DMC5:SE 120 fps. (not sure what's going here... maybe a bug?)
Ever since Richard Leadbetter put the VRR talking point out there on the PS5 Review you just knew they would be driving this narrative to exhaustion.
Huge W, thanks to VRR "smoothing", and to dispel the obvious, cherry picking of a scene even though it fluctuates all over the place as seen on those frame-grapths.
Why not give VGTech-like average breakdowns? More than capable.
DMC5:SE 120 fps. (not sure what's going here... maybe a bug?)
Ever since Richard Leadbetter put the VRR talking point out there on the PS5 Review you just knew they would be driving this narrative to exhaustion.
Huge W, thanks to VRR "smoothing", and to dispel the obvious, cherry picking of a scene even though it fluctuates all over the place as seen on those frame-grapths.
Why not give VGTech-like average breakdowns? More than capable.
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AnotherOne
Member
So ps5 inherited the ps4 pro foliage and shadows advantage that it had over xbone x while xsx has better fps in 120fps, can't seem to go wrong with either version but I'm disappointed even at 1080p we can't get a lock 120fps or close to it :/
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
I think it usually means denser foliage.
Cherrypepsi
Member
I really hope they make him a character with a decent side quest
alabtrosMyster
Banned
Objectively is it has two more plants and slightly better shadows... How ironic can one be?
The non-objective thing to do it to deny the factual differences and virtually scream at people.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
He deserve it.