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Three Jackdaws
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Most of this actually aged really well and it was from late March.
Kudos to the dude.
But that's enough of my nostalgia post digging.
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Most of this actually aged really well and it was from late March.
Kudos to the dude.
But that's enough of my nostalgia post digging.
Kholinar
Banned
Game Awards Leak from 4chan
Take it with a grain of salt./v/ - Since shits leakin - Video Games - 4chan
Since shits leakin - "/v/ - Video Games" is 4chan's imageboard dedicated to the discussion of PC and console video games.boards.4channel.org
The only thing I'm really hyped about is that RWBY game. Show's trash, but I respect what it once was. Rift Apart's release date and Lego Star Wars are pleasant too.
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onesvenus
Member
It's from some months ago in a spanish magazine called hobby consolas. They have a section where they mix true news with a fake one. They never say which ones are true and which one is the fake one though. I suppose this way they can throw rumors to the mix without anything backing up their claims
IllegalLemon
Member
Makes sense i suppose. A rumor is more likely to pique someone's interest and make them more likely to visit the page especially for certain websites that brand even a rumour as fact. More clicks == more revenue
A mobile gacha
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Game Awards Leak from 4chan
Take it with a grain of salt./v/ - Since shits leakin - Video Games - 4chan
Since shits leakin - "/v/ - Video Games" is 4chan's imageboard dedicated to the discussion of PC and console video games.
Looks like this person just created a leak based on info that was already released\rumored.
Epic Sax CEO
Banned
With time we'll see these performance problems disappear, on the SeX, but "unfortunately" it'll probably not take the lead in performance and resolutions save in specific exceptions (because after all the hardware still have it's advantages).
The PS5 is really better designed, we can "clearly" see this on the IO system.
The SeX also has "custom" hardware inside the APU to help the decompression and IO, not tasking the CPU, but the SeX still uses a standard off the shelf SSD. A "DRAMless" SSD.
Compare with the PS5 which has a big custom controller AND SRAM for cache. Meanwhile the SeX SO has to reserve some of the RAM for the SDD cache. This means less RAM for games, more latency in the system.
Also, we found an extra 4GB of DDR4 that the PS5 must be using for the SO and/recording, freeing RAM for the games and reducing latency for competing resources.
Microsoft really dropped the ball.
EDIT:
Other thing, the PS5 still holds some mysteries as you can see in this image:
There's two darkened boxes not explained, on in the IO Complex and other on the GPU.
What could be inside the GPU that it's worth to be highlighted separately?
The bet's are on the Infinite Cache...
The PS5 is really better designed, we can "clearly" see this on the IO system.
The SeX also has "custom" hardware inside the APU to help the decompression and IO, not tasking the CPU, but the SeX still uses a standard off the shelf SSD. A "DRAMless" SSD.
Compare with the PS5 which has a big custom controller AND SRAM for cache. Meanwhile the SeX SO has to reserve some of the RAM for the SDD cache. This means less RAM for games, more latency in the system.
Also, we found an extra 4GB of DDR4 that the PS5 must be using for the SO and/recording, freeing RAM for the games and reducing latency for competing resources.
Microsoft really dropped the ball.
EDIT:
Other thing, the PS5 still holds some mysteries as you can see in this image:
There's two darkened boxes not explained, on in the IO Complex and other on the GPU.
What could be inside the GPU that it's worth to be highlighted separately?
The bet's are on the Infinite Cache...
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
They were explained. Watch the video.With time we'll see these performance problems disappear, on the SeX, but "unfortunately" it'll probably not take the lead in performance and resolutions save in specific exceptions (because after all the hardware still have it's advantages).
The PS5 is really better designed, we can "clearly" see this on the IO system.
The SeX also has "custom" hardware inside the APU to help the decompression and IO, not tasking the CPU, but the SeX still uses a standard off the shelf SSD. A "DRAMless" SSD.
Compare with the PS5 which has a big custom controller AND SRAM for cache. Meanwhile the SeX SO has to reserve some of the RAM for the SDD cache. This means less RAM for games, more latency in the system.
Also, we found an extra 4GB of DDR4 that the PS5 must be using for the SO and/recording, freeing RAM for the games and reducing latency for competing resources.
Microsoft really dropped the ball.
EDIT:
Other thing, the PS5 still holds some mysteries as you can see in this image:
There's two darkened boxes not explained, on in the IO Complex and other on the GPU.
What could be inside the GPU that it's worth to be highlighted separately?
The bet's are on the Infinite Cache...
Infinity cache would take up half of the size of the ps5 apu. It's 6 billion transitors. Ps5 simply doesn't have it.
Physiognomonics
Member
Yep, there is definitely no space for Infinite cache on PS5 APU, even a small quantity.
Epic Sax CEO
Banned
Nope, because wouldn't be the whole 128mb of the desktop GPUs.
"Infinite Cache" is just an extra cache, the amount is not fixed, it can be as much as it fits or the maker wants it to be.
Anyway, that black box wouldn't be there if there wasn't anything there.
MasterCornholio
Member
With time we'll see these performance problems disappear, on the SeX, but "unfortunately" it'll probably not take the lead in performance and resolutions save in specific exceptions (because after all the hardware still have it's advantages).
The PS5 is really better designed, we can "clearly" see this on the IO system.
The SeX also has "custom" hardware inside the APU to help the decompression and IO, not tasking the CPU, but the SeX still uses a standard off the shelf SSD. A "DRAMless" SSD.
Compare with the PS5 which has a big custom controller AND SRAM for cache. Meanwhile the SeX SO has to reserve some of the RAM for the SDD cache. This means less RAM for games, more latency in the system.
Also, we found an extra 4GB of DDR4 that the PS5 must be using for the SO and/recording, freeing RAM for the games and reducing latency for competing resources.
Microsoft really dropped the ball.
EDIT:
Other thing, the PS5 still holds some mysteries as you can see in this image:
There's two darkened boxes not explained, on in the IO Complex and other on the GPU.
What could be inside the GPU that it's worth to be highlighted separately?
The bet's are on the Infinite Cache...
Transcribe - The Road to PS5 - Mark Cerny's a deep dive into the PlayStation 5 - - The Road to Next Gen Ludens
Thank you Jim. There will be lots of chances later on this year to look at the PlayStation 5 games.Today I want to talk a bit about our goals for the PlayStation 5 hardware and how they influenced the development of the console.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Epic Sax CEO
Banned
FUCK! 
But it's still "cache"!
But it's still "cache"!
thebigmanjosh
Member
With time we'll see these performance problems disappear, on the SeX, but "unfortunately" it'll probably not take the lead in performance and resolutions save in specific exceptions (because after all the hardware still have it's advantages).
The PS5 is really better designed, we can "clearly" see this on the IO system.
The SeX also has "custom" hardware inside the APU to help the decompression and IO, not tasking the CPU, but the SeX still uses a standard off the shelf SSD. A "DRAMless" SSD.
Compare with the PS5 which has a big custom controller AND SRAM for cache. Meanwhile the SeX SO has to reserve some of the RAM for the SDD cache. This means less RAM for games, more latency in the system.
Also, we found an extra 4GB of DDR4 that the PS5 must be using for the SO and/recording, freeing RAM for the games and reducing latency for competing resources.
Microsoft really dropped the ball.
EDIT:
Other thing, the PS5 still holds some mysteries as you can see in this image:
There's two darkened boxes not explained, on in the IO Complex and other on the GPU.
What could be inside the GPU that it's worth to be highlighted separately?
The bet's are on the Infinite Cache...
Just texted Cerny and he gave me the scoop:
dead monkey uk
Member
That is tomorrow’s RedGaming Tech video sortedJust texted Cerny and he gave me the scoop:
MasterCornholio
Member
FUCK!
But it's still "cache"!
I believe the GPU has its own cache and also cache scrubbers to help it out. Cache scrubbers are pretty important in the PS5s design.
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Moridianae
Member
What I find all the more exciting is how these developers haven't really had time to explore the system, imo.
Yeah, PS5 kits were out longer, but it's been clear from delays on both sides that Covid messed it all up.
Once we have more optimized graphical engines pushing into these systems(Decima, REngine, UE5), games will be staggeringly beautiful on both systems I think.
The thing, for me, about PS systems is how developers seemingly can just continue to eek out power. I don’t see it being any different here.
As time progressed, you began to see more and more games pushing those systems to new levels(i.e. Vagrant Story, FFXII, Last of Us or MGS4, FFVII Remake, LoU2) to name some across generations that really made those systems shine later in their life cycle.
I'm loving the PS5 and only have a few nitpicks, myself.
I'd like the UI to be a little neater and better to navigate(but I may just not be used to it)
More incentive to subscribe to PS Now(more PS1-PS3 Classics)
VRR support and 1440p support, but I'm sure Sony is listening and those are coming in an update.
Yeah, PS5 kits were out longer, but it's been clear from delays on both sides that Covid messed it all up.
Once we have more optimized graphical engines pushing into these systems(Decima, REngine, UE5), games will be staggeringly beautiful on both systems I think.
The thing, for me, about PS systems is how developers seemingly can just continue to eek out power. I don’t see it being any different here.
As time progressed, you began to see more and more games pushing those systems to new levels(i.e. Vagrant Story, FFXII, Last of Us or MGS4, FFVII Remake, LoU2) to name some across generations that really made those systems shine later in their life cycle.
I'm loving the PS5 and only have a few nitpicks, myself.
I'd like the UI to be a little neater and better to navigate(but I may just not be used to it)
More incentive to subscribe to PS Now(more PS1-PS3 Classics)
VRR support and 1440p support, but I'm sure Sony is listening and those are coming in an update.
Dibils2k
Member
these 4chan leaks have never been right, hoping for the same hereGame Awards Leak from 4chan
Take it with a grain of salt./v/ - Since shits leakin - Video Games - 4chan
Since shits leakin - "/v/ - Video Games" is 4chan's imageboard dedicated to the discussion of PC and console video games.
Moridianae
Member
I believe that 4chan TGA leak to be fake--I think I saw, somewhere(think it was a reputable site or person) that Dragon Age IV will make an extended appearance and I don't see that mentioned.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Must be. Because Silent Hills is definitely being announced.
Definitely.
Absolutely happening.
Insane Metal
Member
Indeed great post! Bravo!
Lunatic_Gamer
Gold Member
Yep. I was one of the very lucky few who were able to secure a PS5 (disc version) with an extra DualSense controller plus 3 games on release date. Loving the console so far. Probably the best console and controller I’ve ever had. Can’t wait to see what the games are gonna look like 2 years from now. What a great time to be a gamer.
GodFall is still a good albeit generic launch tittle
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Yep. I am amongst the very lucky few who were able to secure a PS5 (disc version) with an extra DualSense controller plus 3 games on release date. Loving the console so far. Probably the best console and controller I’ve ever had. Can’t wait to see what the games are gonna look like 2 years from now. What a great time to be a gamer.
Godfail
touted as must have here on GAF, good to see most gamers are sensible.
MasterCornholio
Member
Godfail
I thought that was Demon Souls.
smallpotatosan
Member
Yep. I was one of the very lucky few who were able to secure a PS5 (disc version) with an extra DualSense controller plus 3 games on release date. Loving the console so far. Probably the best console and controller I’ve ever had. Can’t wait to see what the games are gonna look like 2 years from now. What a great time to be a gamer.
GodFall is still a good albeit generic launch tittle
With demon’s souls and MM launching at the same time, along with free ps plus games, crazy ps plus collection titles handed out at no additional cost, typical generic launch title just can’t survive this time around. Ps5 launch lineup is crazy. Now, R&C is going to come soon. Godfall will become a ps plus title soon. funny enough, if godfall were an Xbox exclusive, it might perform better sales-wise, due to less competition there.
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Lunatic_Gamer
Gold Member
Beat me to it. 
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THEAP99
Banned
"All told, perhaps Assassin's Creed Valhalla isn't the best way to compare consoles and PC, especially bearing in mind the disparity in performance between AMD and Nvidia GPUs, but it's certainly an interesting data point. It certainly emphasises that despite the relatively high prices, console users are getting a great deal - when PS5 and Xbox One launched back in 2013, a £100 graphics card could match the console experience, for a while at least. Fast forward seven years on, and you're looking at much more expensive PC parts required to reach console parity - let alone exceed it."
www.eurogamer.net
Assassin's Creed Valhalla - what PC hardware is needed to match PS5 visuals?
With the arrival of the next console generation, it's inevitable that the hardware requirements for PC software will ri…
www.eurogamer.net
Handy Fake
Member
Eh? When?Godfail
Eh? When?
I'm noticing a strange trend where people are claiming that so & so game was hyped for PS5 just so they can have a angle. They need their PS5 Craig so Godfall & Bugsnax is what they are reaching for but no one really cared for these games to begin with lol.
Tripolygon
Banned
Godfail
Lunatic_Gamer
Gold Member
SONY'S PLAYSTATION 5 OUTSPENT MICROSOFT'S XBOX SERIES X THREE TO ONE IN LAUNCH ADS
adage.com
Sony's PlayStation 5 outspent Microsoft's Xbox Series X three to one in launch ads
The two-week period ahead of the console launches was the video gaming category’s most active in 2020.
Loxus
Member
PS5 = Bang for buck."All told, perhaps Assassin's Creed Valhalla isn't the best way to compare consoles and PC, especially bearing in mind the disparity in performance between AMD and Nvidia GPUs, but it's certainly an interesting data point. It certainly emphasises that despite the relatively high prices, console users are getting a great deal - when PS5 and Xbox One launched back in 2013, a £100 graphics card could match the console experience, for a while at least. Fast forward seven years on, and you're looking at much more expensive PC parts required to reach console parity - let alone exceed it."
Assassin's Creed Valhalla - what PC hardware is needed to match PS5 visuals?
With the arrival of the next console generation, it's inevitable that the hardware requirements for PC software will ri…
THEAP99
Banned
"Based on tests with a 2080 Ti, it looks like a 2080 Super or RTX 3060 Ti would be required to match or exceed PlayStation 5's output."PS5 = Bang for buck.
vpance
Member
yewles1
Member
That sounds about right. I'm happy that my 1080ti is still very competitive at least in this game, but whenever I get around to building a new PC I want to go for 3080 or 3070ti to make sure I can do 4k/60 in games like this.
Imtjnotu
Member
Not bad for a machine that costs as much as the card alone
3liteDragon
Member
This actually reminds me of the tweet the rendering engineer at Epic put out regarding PS5 features coming to PC in the near-future."All told, perhaps Assassin's Creed Valhalla isn't the best way to compare consoles and PC, especially bearing in mind the disparity in performance between AMD and Nvidia GPUs, but it's certainly an interesting data point. It certainly emphasises that despite the relatively high prices, console users are getting a great deal - when PS5 and Xbox One launched back in 2013, a £100 graphics card could match the console experience, for a while at least. Fast forward seven years on, and you're looking at much more expensive PC parts required to reach console parity - let alone exceed it."
Assassin's Creed Valhalla - what PC hardware is needed to match PS5 visuals?
With the arrival of the next console generation, it's inevitable that the hardware requirements for PC software will ri…
I remember when people here were calling the Series X the “brute-force” machine when the specs were originally revealed because it had 52 CUs running at a decent clock speed. When in reality, it’s the PC that’s the brute-force machine, based off of what devs have been saying so far, one thing that was being praised about the PS5 other than it’s developer-friendly environment was how “efficient” it was and how devs in 2-3 years (especially first-party) will continue to get more performance out of it (learning how to properly use the GE and etc).
So if the console’s ahead of PC in anything, it’s efficiency (assuming what devs have been saying is true) and I think in the long-term, PC’s will be able to brute-force what the PS5 is able to achieve through efficiency early this gen. I think in a few years if there’s gonna be a PC port for a heavily optimized first-party game built for PS5, the PC spec requirements are gonna be insane. There was a MLiD video also talking about this but I can’t remember which one exactly (would be cool if you guys can find it), but yea I don’t think people are gonna be ready for what we’re gonna see from first-party.
Speaking of which, here’s to hoping that we get gameplay demos for GoW2 and Horizon at the VGAs.
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SONY'S PLAYSTATION 5 OUTSPENT MICROSOFT'S XBOX SERIES X THREE TO ONE IN LAUNCH ADS
Sony's PlayStation 5 outspent Microsoft's Xbox Series X three to one in launch ads
The two-week period ahead of the console launches was the video gaming category’s most active in 2020.
Sony's advertising for the launch was quite comprehensive.
Nice to see, they are not taking their dominance for granted. Very smart.
About three weeks ago in "skid row" area of Vancouver (and no the people living there could not afford a PS5 (very strange placement!)):
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MiyazakiHatesKojima
Banned
Zen 2.5
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I was really hoping it was going to pan out well. I loved the passion the team had when talking about the endgame, and the visuals and art style looks really nice. From what I hear the combat is a blast, but the story and missions are boring and repetitive. A bummer - I was hoping it would break free of the hate, but with Demon's Souls, Miles Morales, Sackboy, and AC Valhalla, I have way more to play than I thought I would.
Metroiddarks
Member
I am really impress than the console settings are basically hight-ultra but I really don't understand why
Alex have the necessity to screw in some moment his videos, like when he start again "This impressive this
behave better than another GPU with X flops".
I mean is not impressive for that reason for God sake when this guys of DF will afront the fact they were
wrong in repeat to the nauseum marketing campaign of flops, the flops are not all, also not is not because
is bad port is what is.
Everytime I read or heard that DF for some reason cannot make mistakes I remember that all DF guys
said multiple times "have more TF so should perform better" and they really have contacts so they know that
the delta was not so big or even in favor of XSX as the marketing said but even then they didn't care because
is not like DF doesn't love to ask this kind of things to their contacts.
Finally Alex should mention which CPU is using if he is using a 3800x/5800x or better that is important.
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M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
Well I wasn't lying, when I told you, that 1000USD PC of your friend cannot beat new consoles at all : )
kyliethicc
Member
it literally says MASTER CHIEF in Fortnite lol read again ya muppet
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