Krizalidx11
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Negotiator101
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A new MGS under the right developer (let's be fair Microsoft has a huge list to choose from) could be enormous. Kojima overseeing the project would be the icing on the cake but not really necessary or realistic.
German Hops
GAF's Nicest Lunch Thief
They need to buy the Suikoden license
Negotiator101
Member
So your opinion is worthless.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
These rumors are now starting to sound very deliberate with a very clear objective, i.e., to discourage people from the PlayStation brand.
Initial rumors started that Sony is doing Metal Gear remakes with Konami and Bluepoint. Now the rumors are that MS is doing a Metal Gear game with Bluepoint and Konami? That's too convenient. Let's look at it logically:
This reminds me the FUD v2.0 of what we all saw last year with PS5 hardware (9.2 TF, no HW ray tracing, can't do 4K, 40-50 FPS gap vs. XSX, etc.)
Initial rumors started that Sony is doing Metal Gear remakes with Konami and Bluepoint. Now the rumors are that MS is doing a Metal Gear game with Bluepoint and Konami? That's too convenient. Let's look at it logically:
- Sony is doing a Metal Gear movie right now (Oscar Isaac is playing Snake).
- They are also tapping into cross-mediums (movies from game IPs, and vice versa).
- Does anyone really think that they will do an MG movie and let go of the opportunity to do the game?
- If Kojima is the one who pitched this idea (I doubt it), would Sony go 'Nah, we don't like it.' And then he would go to MS to do this?
- Will Konami finally wake up from the slumber and have their IPs go exclusively to Xbox, and not PlayStation where they have the highest chance to make money?
- Will Sony just also let go of Bluepoint for no reason?
This reminds me the FUD v2.0 of what we all saw last year with PS5 hardware (9.2 TF, no HW ray tracing, can't do 4K, 40-50 FPS gap vs. XSX, etc.)
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TheDreadLord
Gold Member
If this happens it will probably be the best thing that happened to the franchise. I don't see any other company than M$ keeping the series alive despite market failures. They don't need to make profit from every single game, they need to make profit from the service they sell.
KiNeMz
Banned
Thursday I heardAre they buying it before or after they buy Sega?
MS execs ultimately want Game Pass subscribers to number in the billions, not tens of millions.
We can talk all day about how likely that is, but to even stand a chance of reaching that figure people need to start thinking as Game Pass as the default place for video games.
That means making the Xbox ecosystem the default place for video games, or, rather MS working to make sure there's very little they're missing out on.
And they'll only get bolder as subscribers increase.
The days of Sega IP being PlayStation exclusive are potentially coming to an end. I wouldn't bet on the next Persona being only on PS5.
Maybe, but not by default like its always been before.
Xbox/PC is the place to play MGS right now. 1 via GOG, 2 and 3 in 4k on Xbox, 4 (unfortunately) streamed via PS Now, Rising on Xbox.
But PC ports of the HD Collection and some revival for 4 are both much needed.
The PS5 collection rumours came from 4chan and included Twin Snakes. It's almost certainly nonsense.
Konami licencing out their IP seems to be a common theme in these rumours though, and doesn't seem insane considering where they are right now.
Personally, I'd predict mostly remakes. MG1 and 2 are dying for modern updates to bring them more in-line with the rest of the series, and they'd basically be new games to 99 percent of the MGS fanbase, and that's not even counting work on bringing 1-4 up to modern standards. That's 10-15 years of games right there if released one at a time, without even one worry of a completely original adventure.
Do you have any idea how much of the industry MS would need to buy to become a monopoly?
It ain't one publisher and a popular IP.
turtlepowa
Banned
You take this too serious. Rumors come and go and just because some of them are not in your preferred plastic toy's favor it doen't mean there is a conspiracy going on.
Negotiator101
Member
They could buy the Monopoly IP I suppose.
SentientStone
Member
Ideally for me is that Sony buys Bluepoint, then they announce these remakes and buys the Metal Gear and Silent Hill IPs from Konami... then make them into good Oscar worthy films and TV shows too. lol
Negotiator101
Member
Oh if this rumor is true he'll have a break down I reckon.
You take this too serious. Rumors come and go and just because some of them are not in your preferred plastic toy's favor it doen't mean there is a conspiracy going on.
If Game Pass hits even 100m users across TV, streaming, consoles and PC, it becomes the default. Third parties will start treating MS a lot better at much less than that (and we're sorta seeing that with Square and Sega today).
They need a powerhouse of developers to keep regular AAA releases for Game Pass to work, and that means we'll see way more purchases going forward. But third parties will support it without it needing to be anywhere near a monopoly.
Ezquimacore
Banned
Lol you're the salty one, trust meYou do realise you just admit you trash? Lol.
Also Salt and hate is strong in your post. Don't worry You can play next Elder scrolls on your Mobile through xcloud game pass
Skifi28
Member
Sony will be selling all their consoles everywhere but there will be no games to play on them. Microsoft will be making all the games but there won't be a console sold anywhere in order to play them.
SLB1904
Banned
Yeah. Its fucking nothing . Who would have thought
And I don't believe MGS is up for grabs either
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Negotiator101
Member
The face of Xbox, he could sell ice to the Eskimo's! Jim Ryan on the other hand is like a shady car salesman.
Bergoglio
Member
Because they're desperate.MS is buying everything it seems
excuse me sir,in what world have games ,today, should makes more money on playstation?
If we talk about games that should be exclusive to the platform, with the unification of consoles and PCs there is no chance that n exclusive game on the platform Sony would sell more even at the end of the generation.
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you mean aside from the dozens of games that ms has created? sure everyone does this, just think that Sony bought a whole very famous publisher (at least it was when I was little myself) called Psygnosis then naughty dog, bend, guerrilla in short, you buy talents and ips. this is the industry
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cormack12
Gold Member
What is the point of these comments that shit up every thread? Of course they buy and acquire studio's, so has Sony in the past. Is that because they couldn't create from within either? Where is the line as well? Should Sony not have allowed SP to make Infamous 2 or I:SS because they bought them and the IP? Or should they have to tell Insomniac to stop using making Spider-Man games because the IP is just licensed?
Sony buys inFamous dev Sucker Punch
Sony has bought inFamous and Sly Cooper developer Sucker Punch. The US studio, which has been making PlayStation games …
www.eurogamer.net
Sony purchased Insomniac Games for $229M
But still no follow up to Ratchet & Clank (2016)!
www.polygon.com
On topic, I'm not sure MGS has any legs left. It would be interesting if the rights to the IP only allowed remakes of MGS1/2/3 though. That might get spicy. It also sort of keeps Kojima at a distance and not directly involved, maybe just certain things/changes ran past him. I'm not an ardent MGS fan tbh - I did like the gameplay sandbox of V but I never completed it. I can see this feeling like a slap in the face for the long term MGS fans though, even more so than the year of exclusivity for Rise of the Tomb Raider on Xbox. I would hope it's just a year of exclusivity then multi platform launch.
sublimit
Banned
Yes but which Thursday though? 2041?
Zoro7
Banned
So two developers that predominately created games for Sony? Is the same as MGS series which grew to fame on Sony consoles? Yeah ok mate.What is the point of these comments that shit up every thread? Of course they buy and acquire studio's, so has Sony in the past. Is that because they couldn't create from within either? Where is the line as well? Should Sony not have allowed SP to make Infamous 2 or I:SS because they bought them and the IP? Or should they have to tell Insomniac to stop using making Spider-Man games because the IP is just licensed?
Sony buys inFamous dev Sucker Punch
Sony has bought inFamous and Sly Cooper developer Sucker Punch. The US studio, which has been making PlayStation games …Sony purchased Insomniac Games for $229M
But still no follow up to Ratchet & Clank (2016)!https://www.videogameschronicle.com...nnounce-theyve-left-playstations-bend-studio/ (Sony Interactive Entertainment purchased Bend Studio in 2000)
On topic, I'm not sure MGS has any legs left. It would be interesting if the rights to the IP only allowed remakes of MGS1/2/3 though. That might get spicy. It also sort of keeps Kojima at a distance and not directly involved, maybe just certain things/changes ran past him. I'm not an ardent MGS fan tbh - I did like the gameplay sandbox of V but I never completed it. I can see this feeling like a slap in the face for the long term MGS fans though, even more so than the year of exclusivity for Rise of the Tomb Raider on Xbox. I would hope it's just a year of exclusivity then multi platform launch.
J-Roderton
Member
Wow if true.
cormack12
Gold Member
You're a joke lad. There are six links there dating back to 2000. Don't change your argument. It's shit and you know it.
Zoro7
Banned
I’m not changing nothing. Microsoft haven’t created one decent blockbuster IP during last gen.
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SaucyJack
Member
MS is rumoured to be buying everything it seems
FTFY
TLZ
Banned
I'll wait for announcements.
DevilHunterX0
Member
If you can't make them, buy them.
SSfox
Member
Sony is done if this is true.
MGS is one of those IPs that made playstation, if Sony let this happen it means the actuals Playstation's CEOs don't understand one bit about what is playstation...
But hey who cares? we're gonna have a the last of us remake and the Last of Us tv show next year, right.. Heh
MGS is one of those IPs that made playstation, if Sony let this happen it means the actuals Playstation's CEOs don't understand one bit about what is playstation...
But hey who cares? we're gonna have a the last of us remake and the Last of Us tv show next year, right.. Heh
BGs
Industry Professional
There are a lot of comments lately about Konami, Kojima, MS, Sony... and I don't know where to say this exactly but...
You need to ask yourself a few questions.
PSOne's MGS was good thanks to Kojima? or thanks to Konami? or a little of both? What would MGS have been like without Konami's control? would it have been like MGS4? Or would it have been like Death Stranding?
In that case maybe I wouldn't have liked MGS as much as I liked it.
Surely because of the translation or my way of explaining what I mean is not fully understood, but there I leave the doubt. It will be clear that if someone tells me that Death Stranding has better graphics or that Death Stranding could not have been made on PSOne, it will mean that what I wanted to say has not been understood.
The success of a product depends on the development team as a whole and the taste of the players.
I personally have only enjoyed the MGS, MGS3, SH and SH2 (arguably speaking). I did not quite like the rest (all for personal taste) and Death Syranding seemed beautiful but soporific, I was not able to finish it (to taste the colors). I really appreciate Kojima, but I don't like his games very much.
He is like Picasso, a genius for many, but his paintings seem horrible to me, but as they say in my country "honey is not made for the donkey's mouth."
What can come out of a merger / sale between these companies or people does not necessarily have to be good as it was in the past (look at Rare or Bungie, although I think the same for other companies bought by others, such as Oculus or some bought by Sony).
When something is bought there is always a personnel restructuring that "generally" ends up destroying the essence of the team.
Success will never depend on a name, person, or franchise. It will depend on how all the pieces of the game fit together in time. That includes script, direction, production, ... etc ... and player.
Personally, the only merger I would invest in would be SonySoft or MicroSony. It is the only one that would have a meaning for me in the future.
It's my opinion.
You need to ask yourself a few questions.
PSOne's MGS was good thanks to Kojima? or thanks to Konami? or a little of both? What would MGS have been like without Konami's control? would it have been like MGS4? Or would it have been like Death Stranding?
In that case maybe I wouldn't have liked MGS as much as I liked it.
Surely because of the translation or my way of explaining what I mean is not fully understood, but there I leave the doubt. It will be clear that if someone tells me that Death Stranding has better graphics or that Death Stranding could not have been made on PSOne, it will mean that what I wanted to say has not been understood.
The success of a product depends on the development team as a whole and the taste of the players.
I personally have only enjoyed the MGS, MGS3, SH and SH2 (arguably speaking). I did not quite like the rest (all for personal taste) and Death Syranding seemed beautiful but soporific, I was not able to finish it (to taste the colors). I really appreciate Kojima, but I don't like his games very much.
He is like Picasso, a genius for many, but his paintings seem horrible to me, but as they say in my country "honey is not made for the donkey's mouth."
What can come out of a merger / sale between these companies or people does not necessarily have to be good as it was in the past (look at Rare or Bungie, although I think the same for other companies bought by others, such as Oculus or some bought by Sony).
When something is bought there is always a personnel restructuring that "generally" ends up destroying the essence of the team.
Success will never depend on a name, person, or franchise. It will depend on how all the pieces of the game fit together in time. That includes script, direction, production, ... etc ... and player.
Personally, the only merger I would invest in would be SonySoft or MicroSony. It is the only one that would have a meaning for me in the future.
It's my opinion.
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turtlepowa
Banned
Wizz-Art
Member
I bet Satya and Phil don't want anything to do with that tainted company.
Hitchyhero
Banned
Didn't Kojima want to move away from MGS
mansoor1980
Gold Member
sony fans be like
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cormack12
Gold Member
But that wasn't your argument. And this point you're making now is one that's more reasonable. Microsoft haven't really got that blockbuster game out yet. They've released pretty solid games though in FH4, Gears 5 and a couple more etc. Your point about buying and creation was just meant to be a stupid post to try and score points then cause arguments for pages. And it doesn't make sense. If Sony have acquired Naughty Dog, does that mean that Neils ideas are now coming from Sony? Or are they still coming from the studio they acquired ages ago? Is infamous still Sucker Punch's idea or did Second Son become a Sony creation? What about Ghost of Tsushima because that's also rooted in an acquisition.
These are just fun, stupid internet rumours that everyone gets in a whirlwind about that probably won't come true. Do you remember this: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/destructoid-leaked-photo-of-nx-controller.1198233/
If Tom Howard has an idea tomorrow is that Microsofts idea and creation now? What if he had it four weeks ago? Acquisitions happen all the time, because a studio/company has something you want. IP, tech, creativity etc. and then it's absorbed
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
That's your presumption. Unlike what you believe, I'm really not a fanboy.
I have a gaming PC where I play many XGS games (Ori is one of my all-time favorites, and you can see my posts praising the game on this very forum). In the console market, I do prefer PlayStation, but I also appreciate Xbox. In fact, I'm planning to buy an XSX as soon as the retail price comes down in my country (It's around $750 at the moment; I'll buy it around $700 because I know it won't go any lower) and XGS games start rolling in.
My point is entirely about these rumors against Sony's management and creating a hive mind. It's very similar to how last year rumors against PS5 hardware and the ongoing rumors related to the Gamepass price increase.
Also, as far as MG series go, I'd rather have MS do something about it than Konami just sitting on those IPs doing nothing.
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LMJ
Member
uuugggghhh...
I hate the idea of MS just continuing to buy talant that already exists, I don't want no gaming monopoly be it Sony, MS or Nintendo
Competition is the lifeblood of the gaming industry, without it the gamers will suffer.
That having been said though, anyone is better than Konami as the license is dying under them, so I guess I'm for it, but if you do then commit MS!
New MGS
Remasters/Remakes
GP exposure ensuring millions more experience that campy weird goodness
I hate the idea of MS just continuing to buy talant that already exists, I don't want no gaming monopoly be it Sony, MS or Nintendo
Competition is the lifeblood of the gaming industry, without it the gamers will suffer.
That having been said though, anyone is better than Konami as the license is dying under them, so I guess I'm for it, but if you do then commit MS!
New MGS
Remasters/Remakes
GP exposure ensuring millions more experience that campy weird goodness
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Ideally, these games would be available on all platforms: PlayStation, Xbox, and PC.
However, if it comes to only one console (+ PC), you can't deny that Metal Gear would sell more on PlayStation, because (1) PlayStation has a bigger user base, and (2) more MG series players are likely on PlayStation than any other console.