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Genshin Impact |OT| 4.0 (Fontaine) - Je m'appelle "la baleine"

BlackM1st

Banned
if this is true,RIP the dolphins.
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this how honkai impact works, but i did over 20 pulls once and i didn't get an outfit, i don't understand how the math works here but if i'm not wrong you need to subdivide your % for each object? dude.
LOLWUT. Good luck with that, especially with this type of C tier skins lmao.

I've read "dick purse" :messenger_neutral:
 

Saber

Gold Member
if this is true,RIP the dolphins.
hpfXEVl.jpg

this how honkai impact works, but i did over 20 pulls once and i didn't get an outfit, i don't understand how the math works here but if i'm not wrong you need to subdivide your % for each object? dude.

Does that means skins gonna be a part of gatcha too?
 

Fuz

Banned
if this is true,RIP the dolphins.
hpfXEVl.jpg

this how honkai impact works, but i did over 20 pulls once and i didn't get an outfit, i don't understand how the math works here but if i'm not wrong you need to subdivide your % for each object? dude.
Not sure how to read this table.
In any case, I don't give a flying fuck about costumes being gated by paywalls.
I'd rather have mihoyo sell them outright and give us a fucking 5★ pity selector.

Anyway, I am triggered that you can do lots of cool stuff with Liyue furnishing but the Mondstadt ones only let you to build a shitty doorless hovel.
 
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Pejo

Member
if this is true,RIP the dolphins.
hpfXEVl.jpg

this how honkai impact works, but i did over 20 pulls once and i didn't get an outfit, i don't understand how the math works here but if i'm not wrong you need to subdivide your % for each object? dude.
Yep, this is exactly Honkai's system for gacha skins. LAME. I was really hoping this wouldn't make it in.

Basically, look at the total number of crystals you need to clear the "gacha box" and just count on the fact that you're going to be spending that much, if you want the skin. What is that blue diamond/sphere thing above the 1mil mora? Is that friendship points?
 

Pejo

Member
Not sure how to read this table.
In any case, I don't give a flying fuck about costumes being gated by paywalls.
I'd rather have mihoyo sell them outright and give us a fucking 5★ pity selector.

Anyway, I am triggered that you can do lots of cool stuff with Liyue furnishing but the Mondstadt ones only let you to build a shitty doorless hovel.
Basically, read it like this:

6,132 Genesys Crystals (not primos mind you, so paid currency only), will get you everything in that box. Your chance of getting the costume earlier than the last pull is 0% on the first (free) pull, then it slightly goes up until it's the only thing left in the box. Each pull requires so many Genesys crystals, and that amount increases each pull.

The real way to read this is that the costume costs 6,132 Genesys Crystals, and you get all of that other shit as a "aww poor guy!" reward.

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HAHAHA I just looked up the cost of that in crystals. A $99.99 USD pack gives 6,480 crystals, so they basically want a hundred dollars for this shit? WTF
 
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BlackM1st

Banned
What is that blue diamond/sphere thing above the 1mil mora? Is that friendship points?
Bro wtf. Store exchange currency it is lol starglitter iirc When you pull you are getting it with every 4☆ iirc For how long you didn't pulled ? xD
 

Pejo

Member
Bro wtf. Store exchange currency it is lol starglitter iirc When you pull you are getting it with every 4☆ iirc For how long you didn't pulled ? xD
Oh, duh. I never paid attention to the icon for the starglitter before. Is that the masterless (that lets you buy characters and weapons) or the generic shit that lets us buy enemy drops?
 

Dregnel

Member
Basically, read it like this:

6,132 Genesys Crystals (not primos mind you, so paid currency only), will get you everything in that box. Your chance of getting the costume earlier than the last pull is 0% on the first (free) pull, then it slightly goes up until it's the only thing left in the box. Each pull requires so many Genesys crystals, and that amount increases each pull.

The real way to read this is that the costume costs 6,132 Genesys Crystals, and you get all of that other shit as a "aww poor guy!" reward.

*edit*

HAHAHA I just looked up the cost of that in crystals. A $99.99 USD pack gives 6,480 crystals, so they basically want a hundred dollars for this shit? WTF
remember may been edited i took the picture around twitter i see several people talking about it, it can be false tho.
 
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BlackM1st

Banned
Oh, duh. I never paid attention to the icon for the starglitter before. Is that the masterless (that lets you buy characters and weapons) or the generic shit that lets us buy enemy drops?
Be honest with your feelings and ask yourself. You're already know the answer... xD
 

Pejo

Member
You guys seem really flustered about those ugly pointless costumes. :goog_unsure:
Well it's the first instance of costumes in the game. It sets the bar for what we should expect for all future costumes. Right now, they're granny-tier boring ass costumes at 100 dollars, so it seems like the appropriate time to get a little pissed and give feedback to MHY so that they hopefully reconsider both points.
 

Fuz

Banned
Well it's the first instance of costumes in the game. It sets the bar for what we should expect for all future costumes. Right now, they're granny-tier boring ass costumes at 100 dollars, so it seems like the appropriate time to get a little pissed and give feedback to MHY so that they hopefully reconsider both points.
Yeah, I mean... there are more important thing to get worked on about.


Like a fucking five star selector for pity
 

Dregnel

Member
Like a fucking five star selector for pity
trust me you don't want foca select or five star selection in this game, in honkai they have these selective valkyrie summons but you PITY can't be carried on limited summons, for example soon or later they will create a banner where you can select venti or zhongli for example, we don't have this right now, so.. in these kind of select you pull 60 and you didn't get any character, when this banner ends and the limited summons (normal what we have right now) come back without selection your pity will be 0 or the last pity you had in normal summons but 60 in select, i never pull with those selective summons, if you want diluc for example the best is to pull for a limited summons when he comes, i know they will do the same in this game.
 
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Fuz

Banned
if you want diluc for example the best is to pull for a limited summons when he comes
I'm playing this game now, not in 6 months or 1 year.
I'm already past the point of greatest enjoyement, where I would have enjoyed exploring the world with my choice character.
And I prefer a million times a resetting banner with select pity, so I can save the required pulls in advance and just get that, instead of praying to Jesus Fucking Christ to make a miracle for me.
 
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Dregnel

Member
I'm playing this game now, not in 6 months or 1 year.
I'm already past the point of greatest enjoyement, where I would have enjoyed exploring the world with my choice character.
And I prefer a million times a resetting banner with select pity, so I can save the required pulls in advance and just get that, instead of praying to Jesus Fucking Christ to make a miracle for me.
what they need to do is not give the user a random character on pull 90 and more new characters and less reruns, jean, deluc or qiqi are not here yet.
but those selective summons are a cancer and a trap at least when i tried in honkai.
 
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Fuz

Banned
what they need to do is not give the user a random character on pull 90 and more new characters and less reruns, jean, deluc or qiqi are not here yet.
but those selective summons are a cancer and a trap at least when i tried in honkai.
The selective summons are a GODSEND in DFFOO. I KNOW for sure that I'm gonna get what I want after a certain point.
 

Dregnel

Member
The selective summons are a GODSEND in DFFOO. I KNOW for sure that I'm gonna get what I want after a certain point.
not my experience with mihoyo, always read they have alot of traps when they create a new type of banner.
 
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BlackM1st

Banned
not my experience with mihoyo, always read they have alot of traps when they create a new type of banner.
I feel like Square should get their shit together and just clone genshin like fucking yesterday. All these "important surveys" and "valuable feedback" we provide to MiHoYo is useless until competition will bite 'em in the ass. And Iooks like Chinese government/ fanbase has Chinese devs literally at gunpoint so we need a non Chinese devs to up their game.
 

Pejo

Member
I feel like Square should get their shit together and just clone genshin like fucking yesterday. All these "important surveys" and "valuable feedback" we provide to MiHoYo is useless until competition will bite 'em in the ass. And Iooks like Chinese government/ fanbase has Chinese devs literally at gunpoint so we need a non Chinese devs to up their game.
Yea it's funny, the more I read about the honkai bullshit and a few other issues with MHY, they almost seem held captive by the CN audience. I feel like the game would be way better if they moved their HQ to a different country (not the US please, we don't need California bleeding into and ruining another company). I do agree that we need to see a big budget rival to Genshin to get some movement though. Right now since they're the leaders in this type of game, there's nothing to push them to make it better or better for players. Whatever the minimum they can do and not hugely affect profit. Still, I'm not sure S-E is the right choice. They don't even make good games anymore.
 

Saber

Gold Member
You guys seem really flustered about those ugly pointless costumes. :goog_unsure:

Its not like they won't gonna turbine the best waifus. Its only a matter of time, Barbara its probably a test.
They would risk losing hills of money making gatchas no one has interest.
 

Reizo Ryuu

Member
Do keep in mind that in Honkai a lot of costumes get put in for either in-game currency, or "premium costume currency", or "b-chips"(crystals).
The premium costume currency route is much cheaper than the gacha route, and some costumes are part of spending events as well (spent x amount of currency anywhere and you just get the costume).

I'm sure they are going to do all of the above for genshin as well, so just skip the gacha ones.
 

YukiOnna

Member
Do keep in mind that in Honkai a lot of costumes get put in for either in-game currency, or "premium costume currency", or "b-chips"(crystals).
The premium costume currency route is much cheaper than the gacha route, and some costumes are part of spending events as well (spent x amount of currency anywhere and you just get the costume).

I'm sure they are going to do all of the above for genshin as well, so just skip the gacha ones.
So I have the option of straight buying it?
 

Reizo Ryuu

Member
So I have the option of straight buying it?
In genshin? Doesn't seem like it right now, the image shows the gacha route.
In honkai costumes get implemented for different routes, some are gacha, some can be bought instantly; I'm sure genshin will have those other options in the future as well.
 

Pejo

Member
So I finally get the teapot shop thing. Every Friday, Chubby shows up in your domain. For 24 hours from when he arrives, only YOU can purchase stuff in your own shop. on Saturday, 24 hours from his arrival, the shop opens up to anyone that visits your teapot to be able to buy stuff. The stock is actually limited, meaning if I buy a dog on Friday, you'll see the dog in his inventory but it will be sold out on Saturday for everybody else that comes in to your teapot. If you wait on Friday and don't buy the dog, and somebody else visits on Saturday and buys it, you can't buy it.

Not a big deal or anything, just worth noting - if you have anything in your own shop that you really really want, buy it on Friday.
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YukiOnna

Member
So I finally get the teapot shop thing. Every Friday, Chubby shows up in your domain. For 24 hours from when he arrives, only YOU can purchase stuff in your own shop. on Saturday, 24 hours from his arrival, the shop opens up to anyone that visits your teapot to be able to buy stuff. The stock is actually limited, meaning if I buy a dog on Friday, you'll see the dog in his inventory but it will be sold out on Saturday for everybody else that comes in to your teapot. If you wait on Friday and don't buy the dog, and somebody else visits on Saturday and buys it, you can't buy it.

Not a big deal or anything, just worth noting - if you have anything in your own shop that you really really want, buy it on Friday.
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I stared at this and realized MHY won't put cat waifu in this ever.
 
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So I finally get the teapot shop thing. Every Friday, Chubby shows up in your domain. For 24 hours from when he arrives, only YOU can purchase stuff in your own shop. on Saturday, 24 hours from his arrival, the shop opens up to anyone that visits your teapot to be able to buy stuff. The stock is actually limited, meaning if I buy a dog on Friday, you'll see the dog in his inventory but it will be sold out on Saturday for everybody else that comes in to your teapot. If you wait on Friday and don't buy the dog, and somebody else visits on Saturday and buys it, you can't buy it.
That is such a stupid system. I can only hope it'll change.
 

BlackM1st

Banned
Still, I'm not sure S-E is the right choice. They don't even make good games anymore.
FF14 is good. Maybe even great considering how it started in 1.0 lol Plus they're probably the only Japanese publisher rich enough to make a AAA GI clone. Capcom are scrubs.
 

BlackM1st

Banned
If you wait on Friday and don't buy the dog, and somebody else visits on Saturday and buys it, you can't buy it.
Yeah, I knew it from the beginning. I learned it the hard way. My friend opened his teapot so I could visit it while he was offline. Big mistake. I came back in 2 hours with enough money to bought his bird. Welp. His store was empty D: Somebody joined his teapot while I was waiting for my money ;(
 
This last Twisted Realm is pretty much impossible, no? I don't see any way to complete this with a score of 5000 in solo play. Those extras just keep healing the main enemy, and even if you try to get rid of them, new ones just keep spawning. I thought the strategy would be to keep one of them alive so the next wave wouldn't spawn, but that doesn't seem to be the case. If you ask me, this is no longer a challenge, but a wallet check.
 

Pejo

Member
This last Twisted Realm is pretty much impossible, no? I don't see any way to complete this with a score of 5000 in solo play. Those extras just keep healing the main enemy, and even if you try to get rid of them, new ones just keep spawning. I thought the strategy would be to keep one of them alive so the next wave wouldn't spawn, but that doesn't seem to be the case. If you ask me, this is no longer a challenge, but a wallet check.
Yea I've been having issues with the Geovishap one and this last one solo. I finally got over 5k on the other two. I think I'm just going to co-op them and hope I get a good group. That seems to be the general theme.

In other news, somebody gets it
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Saber

Gold Member
This last Twisted Realm is pretty much impossible, no? I don't see any way to complete this with a score of 5000 in solo play. Those extras just keep healing the main enemy, and even if you try to get rid of them, new ones just keep spawning. I thought the strategy would be to keep one of them alive so the next wave wouldn't spawn, but that doesn't seem to be the case. If you ask me, this is no longer a challenge, but a wallet check.

Just follow the youtube players tips.
Op 5 star characters + Venti + 5-
star OP weapons + god artifacts

But seriously, I knew this challenge was made to appease the meta fetishes but I think they got carried away with this event. I even read on the net that if you don't have a Venti you can aways use Sucrose. But it didn't matter, in the moment I kill the hilicurls more simply respawn instantly.
 

Reizo Ryuu

Member
Every Friday, Chubby shows up in your domain. For 24 hours from when he arrives, only YOU can purchase stuff in your own shop. on Saturday, 24 hours from his arrival, the shop opens up to anyone that visits your teapot to be able to buy stuff.
Yeah I noticed this, but I don't mind, my teapot is barren as shit cause I don't care much about it.
So if you want to come in and rob chubby, go ahead.
 

Ladioss

Member
Man, I think I'm getting sick of this game.
I'm not even logging to use my resin now that I maxed the weekly BP.

Frankly, I don't understand why you don't take a leave, play something else for a few months and come back for Inazuma ?
 
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