S0ULZB0URNE
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They still do and that's the problem.
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VFXVeteran
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They will come for sure. Just don't know when. If I was a betting man, I'd say within 1yr of release to PS5.
Vick
Member
Exaclty, but that's not what Sony gaming division is doing now. Cross gen, misleading PR and no exclusives are not respectful for those who spent money on their system.Of course many corps respect their customers' money.
VFXVeteran
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I suspect those dates will start to become accurately predicted as the generation moves on.
But the only thing about that is that the PS4 games being on the PC will rival the PS5 ones. These ports aren't just going to be straight. There are assets already made that are higher than what was ever seen on PS4. Also, as the graphics engines become more modernized they will put in added features that will make the ports pop visually. I wouldn't sleep on these PS4 ports. Days Gone already is significantly better looking than it's PS4 port due to the change in lighting and textures.
Bryank75
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VFXVeteran
Banned
You'll have it..
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
And here I am reading a screenrant article saying that Days Gone PC looks marginally better than the PS5 port. Who to believe?
Edit: Apparently there is no PS5 port. It’s just the PS4 version in back compat?
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VFXVeteran
Banned
Up to you. A 3D game's major visual enhancements come from textures and lighting. Period. If you address those two things in a port, the game will look substantially better.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
What dates and who's predicting?
Well the PS5 ports of PS4 games mainly just run at a higher fps.
No enhancements that use the cutting edge PS5 hardware and many of these "older games" are free where PC buyers will pay a premium for old games.
PC enhancements can only do so much.
Look at Horizon FW.. it does circles around Horizon ZD on PC.
Days Gone don't look much different than the Pro version either.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
isnt days gone a flop on PC compared to HZD?
VFXVeteran
Banned
Right but the PC will be able to use enhancements that the PS5 hardware can't even run well. Days Gone is a perfect example of this. That game's higher res textures and their GI system (takes 33ms of compute cycles) would force a throttle down on resolution and FPS for the PS5.
Horizon FW has three things going for it over the PC version of HZD. 1) They fixed the poor GI system. 2) The water. 3) Facial animation during cutscenes. Everything else is just a change of scenary with different assets. The cloud system, foliage, enemies, texture sizes, collision detection system for foliage, footprints, etc.. all have the same internal subsystems as HZD. Any other judgements are just purely subjective.
That's your opinion and you are entitled to it. But I question anyone that can't see 2-3X the size of textures (ala UE5's textures seem to pop for everyone) and an accurate GI system (albeit in screenspace) that completely changes the look of how light is bounced around (again, Lumen is wow'ing everyone and it has flaws).Days Gone don't look much different than the Pro version either.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I made this back in February when Days Gone PC port was announced, and people told me Days Gone going to PC doesnt mean PS5 games would go to PC.
It's aged well.
It's aged well.
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Mister Wolf
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You think by the end of this year?
yurinka
Member
Jim Ryan said they plan to release more PS4 games on PC. Mentioned PS4 games, not PS5 games.
It would make sense that before releasing PS5 games they would want to release their PS4 before them, first because as of today PCs can't handle PS5 games. And second because if they release PS5 games then the PC gamers wouldn't buy PS4 games after them beause they'd feel less fresh and more dated.
But yes, specially considering they are releasing the TV series, I think they will release TLOU1&2 soonish on PC.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
PS Studios will now be forced to make mobile games. Imagine ND talent being forced to work on iPhones.
PS studios will now be forced to make GaaS games.
PS studios will now be forced to make all games multiplatforms.
Spidey Fan
Banned
if there is any PlayStation game coming to pc, I will like the infamous ps3 game on the pc. that game made jealous of not having a console as a kid.
so now is all about timed exclusives
dat moving goalpost
DeaDPo0L84
Member
Honestly for
You act as if 1st party Playstation games are the only ones on the market. Waiting at minimum a year to play a much improved version of a game on PC due to console limitations is worth it. Why play the worse version of something day 1 if you can wait, play other games and end up getting a superior product in the end?
You act as if 1st party Playstation games are the only ones on the market. Waiting at minimum a year to play a much improved version of a game on PC due to console limitations is worth it. Why play the worse version of something day 1 if you can wait, play other games and end up getting a superior product in the end?
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Spidey Fan
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Is sony business model enough for single player games at this age? wouldn't more graphic games cost more money? Plus arent they also securing more exclusive deals, and timed exclusive games. I wonder if those are eating their cost, so they are trying to expand their business model.
PS Studios will now be forced to make mobile games. Imagine ND talent being forced to work on iPhones.
PS studios will now be forced to make GaaS games.
PS studios will now be forced to make all games multiplatforms.
now they told that all games will end up on pc
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mansoor1980
Gold Member
they should release DRIVECLUB for pc
because not released very few valid games not for what you think.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
they are more profitable than ever by doubling down on single player games like TLOU2, GoT, Spiderman Miles and Demon Souls.
In a year where they launched a console that was sold for a loss. They need to double down on single player, not expand to mobile and GaaS. their model works because they are the only ones making quality single player games besides Rockstar.
Shubh_C63
Member
But they are expanding to mobile and Gaas. Their single player blockbuster strategy is awesome and working good but will always be a risky prospect.
A AAA multiplayer hit on your hand, even a single one is much more desirable to a publisher. Relatively risk free revenue each month compared to gamble on Days Gone or Order 1886.
Honestly don't think it would matter if all exclusives was launched on PC a year or 2 later. PC isn't going to suddenly make console only players jump ship. I love alot of PC games but id sooner buy games on console due to ease of use. I got cyberpunk on PC day one and it didnt have 1 major bug for me just couple of graphical glitches, but I still stopped playing due to feeling like I couldn't get the settings right. Also I will never touch any multi player game on PC. Despite what a few trolls will say the games will still specifically target ps5 hardware and take advantage of its features, same for the series consoles. The faster SSD and I/O will soon be matched or exceeded with PC hardware anyway, if it hasn't started to already.
Rea
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
This slide also heavily implies day and date PC releases for 1st party GAAS games.
PS Studios will now be forced to make mobile games. Imagine ND talent being forced to work on iPhones.
PS studios will now be forced to make GaaS games.
PS studios will now be forced to make all games multiplatforms.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Most people will agree with your post. But good luck trying to convince ecosystem warriors.
Their stance is if console exclusives go to PC, there's no point getting a console, the users will drop like a rock and they will shift to buying PC rigs to play the game there instead of a $500 easy to use console.
Yea most just won't want the hassle and despite what some may say PC can sure as fuck be hassle. I'd consider myself a tiny bit more knowledgeable than your average console gamer when it comes to PC. I've built 3 of them it isn't exactly that hard its dealing with loads of shit having to play games sometimes and of cause that feeling I'm missing out if I dont get the settings right.
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Bernd Lauert
Banned
The cope in here is on another level. Why can't you guys just be happy that more people can experience Sony's IPs?
Rea
Member
I think there will games like Genshin Impact alot more in the future from PS Studio.
Guys, jim ryan is going to officially kill PS brand.
I suspect there will be no more PS6, console generation is going to end sooner than later.
Krappadizzle
Gold Member
Any of them seem reasonable. Simulator market in general is biggest on PC so it's def. in the same wheelhouse.
I was thinking cause of the simulator and multiplayer nature element of GT7 it seems like the best bet of the current portfolio.
After Dreams.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
Bruh the way you act towards gaming news is legit not healthy. I assume you're just playing a character on the forums cause you like the attention.
Kerotan
Member
I'm sorry but they do. There are millions of pc gamers who'd be willing to get into console gaming just like there is millions of console gamers willing to get into pc.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Days gone is an absolutely stunning port over the PlayStation version. The global illumination alone is a sight to behold.What dates and who's predicting?
Well the PS5 ports of PS4 games mainly just run at a higher fps.
No enhancements that use the cutting edge PS5 hardware and many of these "older games" are free where PC buyers will pay a premium for old games.
PC enhancements can only do so much.
Look at Horizon FW.. it does circles around Horizon ZD on PC.
Days Gone don't look much different than the Pro version either.
Probably sold as much as Days gone vs Horizon sold on PlayStation 4. One got a sequel announced and one got it’s sequel canned so i guess it’s in line with what Sony expects.
ZywyPL
Banned
Actually it's the PS+ that brings the most money for Sony, so given they don't have a single MP title, it's actually all the 3rd party games that carry them financially. And the userbase was driven by the 399$
Their AAA SP-only games strategy is a huge hit and miss, you get either games that sell 10M+ or games that no one even noticed were released. And given the production cost of those, the risk is simply too high.
Sony seems to be LTTP to be honest in reading the market (or maybe they purposely let the others test the waters?) - they started to charge for online play just recently with PS4, while MS was already doing that in the longest generation eneration ever. Now everyone has already went long time ago into multiplatform, cross-play, DLC, MTX, every means that help to squeeze the most of those 100M+ projects, and Sony once again is a whole generation behind.
And that's not bad at all, it does work and bring money, which is the core goal, the problem is the whole marketing/PR about that whole transition. For years Ryan has been saying how Playstation is a premium experience, denied cross-play etc., he was creating that hermetic environment and convincing everyone how that's actually good for the gamers, and now all of a sudden he wants to make a 180 degree spin and be everywhere after all that talk how inferior other communities are. And the recent infamous "we believe in generatins" will follow him for at least next 10 years.
More than any other IP, racing sim community is very, very strong on PC, it could easily have a bigger online community on PC than on consoles, with various leagues going on for years.
DonJuanSchlong
Banned
Lol I bookmark posts strictly for this reason lol. Serving up heavily salted crow ain't easy, but it's honest work. Funny how certain posters ruined their reputation here, and went from like 50 posts a day to 50 posts a year, due to them writing checks with their mouths, that Sony can't cash out.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Thread is also filled with trolling intentionally misquoting that “claim”. Not sure how much it helps now reposting memes from the Xbox thread.Stolen from the Xbox Power thread:
We will see if the gloating will end up like the power gap monster advantage
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PS5 Die Shot has been revealed
I blame this bearded stoner Exactly. He literally says there that "RDNA2 includes hardware support for DIRECT X ray tracing" So... PS5 by definition can't be this so called "full RDNA2" because PlayStation would never ever use fucking DirectX. Wow the PS5 is not a PC. Shocker. Its dishonest...
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Agree with a lot of the other points in the post, but why are you misquoting that?
That quote is infamous mostly because people make shit up with it and never quote it in full.
PS5 Die Shot has been revealed
I blame this bearded stoner Exactly. He literally says there that "RDNA2 includes hardware support for DIRECT X ray tracing" So... PS5 by definition can't be this so called "full RDNA2" because PlayStation would never ever use fucking DirectX. Wow the PS5 is not a PC. Shocker. Its dishonest...
Where is the infamy or lie in that?
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kyliethicc
Member
Yes.
Gran Turismo is part of the fucking Olympics now. Sony will want it to keep growing and selling to PC users is an obvious move.
Its a platform service type of game, ongoing updates, etc. It could easily go to PC same day as PS4/5. We'll see.
No point in porting GT Sport since GT7 will be on PS4 too (and will replace GT Sport for multiplayer user base).
As a big GT fan, I think its a smart move. GT isn't a game that would suffer in anyway from being on both PS & PC.
Even the cross gen aspect of GT7 isn't that disappointing. (Just a lil bit.) But Sony straight up lied about GT7 being PS5 only.
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tell me a game that would suffer....and not possibly be just the best version on PC compared to PS5. Its a good move all around ...are just rabid fanboys upset with it
Md Ray
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TLOU2 will never, ever come to PC, haha. Bookmark this post.
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DonJuanSchlong
Banned
Now you don't wanna go down that route. You can always edit your post, and I'll amend your quote if you do... So speak now, or forever hold your peace.TLOU2 will never, ever come to PC, haha. Bookmark this post.
I already bookmarked with the label delicious crows