Yea this. Casual gamers will go for the easiest option and that will be streaming in the future.
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Pc will be the dominant gaming platform going forward.
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rofif
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Well it is my dominantę platform for whole life and I kinda hate it 
it only makes everything more troublesome and expensive.
I keep ps for exclusives and it's always a joy to play.
That said. I always like the best so pc is that.
It's short -pc is pain and suffering
it only makes everything more troublesome and expensive.I keep ps for exclusives and it's always a joy to play.
That said. I always like the best so pc is that.
It's short -pc is pain and suffering
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Team Andromeda
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List me the best selling PC exclusives that massively outsell a console title. I'll be interesting in seeing them and I don't meant to be funny
LazyParrot
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League of Legends, a 12 year old game brought in 75% more money on PC last year than FIFA, one of the most consistently successful gaming franchises on consoles, did across all platforms. And unlike FIFA, League doesn't even cost 60 bucks. It's free.
muteZX
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Age of Empires, Total War series, Rimworld, Crusader Kings, Guild Wars, DOTA .. these kind of niche games /ama not a PC gamer, just quick google fu/. Sales are passable, so-so.
muteZX
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I heard something bout microtranctions .. Riot Points ..
"Runes are a bad system, imo, and are basically IP sinks to push players to spend money on champions"
LazyParrot
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Well, duh. Of course there's some way for players to pay. But you don't have to, and the vast majority of players don't. With FIFA there's no way around the up-front payment.
Team Andromeda
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I very much doubt those games come anywhere near what the likes of Fifa, COD, GTA 5 sell for the consoles versions
TaylorSwiftFan
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Almost every single one of those points are wrong.
llien
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muteZX
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I am not war crying anything .. for me it is just a specific sort of players /DOTA, LoL, Counter Strike, even FIFA etc./ .. live and let live .. eh.
Topher
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Most recently, Embracer reported sales of 6.8 million for Valheim.
Embracer sells 6.8M copies of Valheim, has 160 games in development
Embracer Group said Valheim sales have topped 6.8 million copies and the company has 160 games in the works.
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There have been a number of smaller games like Valheim that crop up the Steam charts and do very well. Popular games on Steam are often games no one ever hears of or talks about in console circles.
Team Andromeda
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I'm not saying that PC games don't do well It just seems the games sell better on the consoles in most casesMost recently, Embracer reported sales of 6.8 million for Valheim.
Embracer sells 6.8M copies of Valheim, has 160 games in development
Embracer Group said Valheim sales have topped 6.8 million copies and the company has 160 games in the works.
There have been a number of smaller games like Valheim that crop up the Steam charts and do very well. Popular games on Steam are often games no one ever hears of or talks about in console circles.
Bonfires Down
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It’s mostly F2P games like Dota, LoL, CS plus games that are really only popular in asia but earn lots of cash like Dungeon Fighter.
muteZX
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Most recently, Embracer reported sales of 6.8 million for Valheim.
Embracer sells 6.8M copies of Valheim, has 160 games in development
Embracer Group said Valheim sales have topped 6.8 million copies and the company has 160 games in the works.
There have been a number of smaller games like Valheim that crop up the Steam charts and do very well. Popular games on Steam are often games no one ever hears of or talks about in console circles.
cough .. PC only not for too long .. cough
/its a good game, i wish dem luck/.
Twinguistics
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I hope so.
Honestly I don't understand the effort argument. I got a gaming laptop last year. I download games, I play them. No hassle at all. If I want to tinker with graphic settings then I can, but I don't need to. If I want to mod a game to get new, free, content I can but I don't have to.
Ultimately it's possible to just install a game and play it.
Honestly I don't understand the effort argument. I got a gaming laptop last year. I download games, I play them. No hassle at all. If I want to tinker with graphic settings then I can, but I don't need to. If I want to mod a game to get new, free, content I can but I don't have to.
Ultimately it's possible to just install a game and play it.
Topher
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Probably true with your AAA games. At the same time, there is a bit more competition for your gaming money on Steam than on consoles. Every time I look at Steam top sellers, I see new games popping up that I've never heard of before. You've a quite a mix in the top sellers. Some big name games like Mass Effect along with more obscure games like Bloon TD 6 (whatever the hell that is).
Steam Search
Burythelight
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No because pc platform will be even more expensive
sunnysideup
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Pc is only a hassle if you want like a consistent framerate.
But if you play games like most pc gamers do ie with an unlocked stuttery mess of a framerate consisting of "mostly 60fps" then its basically just download the game and play.
No more hassle than console.
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carlosrox
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And then you wake up from your dream.
Really wish people would stop spreading this nonsense.
Really wish people would stop spreading this nonsense.
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sunnysideup
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If you have low standards, especially when it comes to framerates. Which most pc fans seems to have. Then pc really is not a hassle. Its very easy to get into.
Most games work on an rudimentary level.
Patrick S.
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TBH I don't really care what kind of PC some dude in a hut in Somalia is using. Driving factor for gaming are the developed countries.Just No…. people still don’t look at those steam metrics. They still think that PCMR or PC hardcore gamers are the majority
Matt_Fox
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At some point in the not-too-distant future AAA gaming will require a screen and a controller, nothing more.
No one will upvote this, because this forum is so embroiled in the mosh pit of current gaming rivalries. But if you have an open mind to make a mental leap beyond the now, and you understand the accelerating pace of change in tech then you'll see it is inevitable.
No one will upvote this, because this forum is so embroiled in the mosh pit of current gaming rivalries. But if you have an open mind to make a mental leap beyond the now, and you understand the accelerating pace of change in tech then you'll see it is inevitable.
Pegasus Actual
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The rise of Twitch and now crossplay is really pushing anyone into competitive multiplayer towards PC. You're a COD try-hard in Warzone? Frames win games, get on PC, play at 200 frames, set a nice wide FOV, and have at it, even stick with your controller if that's what you want to do because frankly in Warzone you're probably better off considering the amount of aim assist you get. Kinda crazy, but COD controller players of all people have been migrating to PC . Apex Legends? Same story more or less.
Fortnite? I'm not an expert but seems like you can't instantly spin in a circle and build the Taj Mahal at typical controller sensitivities. All the cracked players are on PC.
R6 Siege? Console version is considered a bit of a joke. You want to be like Beaulo? You gotta be on PC.
Rocket League? Every big streamer is pushing as many frames as possible and shaving off that input lag. You're on console, you don't get Workshop maps. No dribble course for you. No Lethamyr's Rings. Get on PC or try to survive off of free play and training pack codes.
If you want to actually stream, you really need to be on PC. And probably in short order have a second PC dedicated just to processing your capture/stream setup while your dedicated rig plays games. Janky ass console setups where you try to manage everything with your gamepad don't get it done. Even if you want to stream consoles if you're serious you're gonna have that dedicated streaming PC. And if you have that you probably are going to want a decent enough GPU in there that's going to nudge you into trying PC gaming proper.
Sure, not every gamer is a try-hard wannabe pro gamer/streamer, but I'm shocked at how many people I've seen migrate from consoles who never would have considered it in earlier eras of gaming.
OP is on point in saying that PC has the zeitgeist.
Fortnite? I'm not an expert but seems like you can't instantly spin in a circle and build the Taj Mahal at typical controller sensitivities. All the cracked players are on PC.
R6 Siege? Console version is considered a bit of a joke. You want to be like Beaulo? You gotta be on PC.
Rocket League? Every big streamer is pushing as many frames as possible and shaving off that input lag. You're on console, you don't get Workshop maps. No dribble course for you. No Lethamyr's Rings. Get on PC or try to survive off of free play and training pack codes.
If you want to actually stream, you really need to be on PC. And probably in short order have a second PC dedicated just to processing your capture/stream setup while your dedicated rig plays games. Janky ass console setups where you try to manage everything with your gamepad don't get it done. Even if you want to stream consoles if you're serious you're gonna have that dedicated streaming PC. And if you have that you probably are going to want a decent enough GPU in there that's going to nudge you into trying PC gaming proper.
Sure, not every gamer is a try-hard wannabe pro gamer/streamer, but I'm shocked at how many people I've seen migrate from consoles who never would have considered it in earlier eras of gaming.
OP is on point in saying that PC has the zeitgeist.
Rhazer Fusion
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Well. PC is getting Sony first party PS4 games, probably PS5 games later, Microsoft’s first party games, indie games, most if not all third party games at the highest fidelity and performance. You might be on to something here. I think all consoles got left is being cheaper and convenience.
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NeoIkaruGAF
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Doubt.
PC mostly makes sense if you want top performance and customization. Top performance puts PC well beyond the price the average console gamer is willing to pay, and if you don’t go for the best performance then you can just stick with consoles. Also, FOMO for console timed exclusive means people who really want the new Sony game will still choose console over PC. Lastly, as plug-and-play as PC can be nowadays, it’s still not as living room-friendly as a console.
PC mostly makes sense if you want top performance and customization. Top performance puts PC well beyond the price the average console gamer is willing to pay, and if you don’t go for the best performance then you can just stick with consoles. Also, FOMO for console timed exclusive means people who really want the new Sony game will still choose console over PC. Lastly, as plug-and-play as PC can be nowadays, it’s still not as living room-friendly as a console.
Team Andromeda
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I agree and the like of Halo have done well on steam. At a guess, I would still say COD, FIFA and the like sell in far bigger numbers on the consoles. And if I listen to some of this board online and DRM is terrible when that's how more PC games are now delivered, not even an option for a physical version in a lot of casesProbably true with your AAA games. At the same time, there is a bit more competition for your gaming money on Steam than on consoles. Every time I look at Steam top sellers, I see new games popping up that I've never heard of before. You've a quite a mix in the top sellers. Some big name games like Mass Effect along with more obscure games like Bloon TD 6 (whatever the hell that is).
Steam Search
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Team Andromeda
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F2P games are also quite popular on consoles and phones.
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carlosrox
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Blows my fucking mind when PC gamers try to spread this bullshit.
Very well said. 100% agreed.
"Runs best on PC". "On PC".
I didn't know I could go into a store and just buy "PC" and it runs every game perfectly at 4k 120.
My PC is only a year old and I spent a pretty little penny and it's already outdated as fuck and couldn't run games exactly how I wanted to and it was fucking frustrating. Now if I wanna upgrade to a better card I have a brick I just spent money on only a year ago? Repeat cycle if I wanna upgrade again.
Always feeling like your stuff will be outdated in a year or two will always be a shitty feeling when it comes to PC gaming and what always kills it for me.
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Unrivaledx88
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Lol….
Some ppl just dont care to game on PC, idk why thats hard to understand.
Some ppl just dont care to game on PC, idk why thats hard to understand.
Clear
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Dear OP:
No it won't, and more importantly it shouldn't be.
The strength of PC is its versatility and tweakability. Things that appeal strongly to enthusiasts and hobbyists, but are somewhat neutral to turn-offs for the mass market consumer.
To make PC gaming appeal to that mass demographic it'd have to lose or deemphasize massively the things that make it great and unique.
No it won't, and more importantly it shouldn't be.
The strength of PC is its versatility and tweakability. Things that appeal strongly to enthusiasts and hobbyists, but are somewhat neutral to turn-offs for the mass market consumer.
To make PC gaming appeal to that mass demographic it'd have to lose or deemphasize massively the things that make it great and unique.
Bonfires Down
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Dude, I don’t care about your weird PC vendetta. I answered your question.
Team Andromeda
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.There's F2P games on the consoles and also mobiles you've yet to list any retail PC game that can match the console sales
Brofist
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In all likelihood you probably will be able to.
Better to get a console and just be outdated on day one and get it over with.
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Kazza
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If (as is almost certainly going to be the case) BotW2 is being built using the same engine as the original, then it is very probable that it will be playable day one on PC.
Kokoloko85
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Performance to price wise consoles we always be better and cheaper.
I dont know about numbers but theres hundreds of millions of people still gaming on consoles and probably always will be
I dont know about numbers but theres hundreds of millions of people still gaming on consoles and probably always will be
In 15 years we're gonna have this clients on our PC's: Steam, EGS, maybe Ubisoft, EA, some others (Embracer?) and definitely PlayStation and Xbox. So yeah, pc will become the only hardware where to play your games.
Only Nintendo will continue to make dedicated Hardware I think for more gen than the others.
Only Nintendo will continue to make dedicated Hardware I think for more gen than the others.
Impotaku
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LOL ahahahahahaha just no. PC's are powerful machines & the library of games if vast but nope no way in hell are they easy to get into, A million different configurations & a million ways for things to go wrong when they work it's just gravy but the moment they stop it's a fucking nightmare trying to sort out some random problem.
HeisenbergFX4
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PC gaming is still super easy to get into as entry level PCs can be bought anytime.
For us people on forums who want high end parts are the ones who can't buy crap.