wipeout364
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I am good with the paid seasons. It’s better than buying map packs that screws up the community. Battlefield has horrible campaigns so I don’t care honestly.
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Battlefield 2042 won't have a campaign, will feature paid seasons
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iJudged
Banned
can't tell if satire or retarded. I pay $70 for the game, i don't get single player and i still have to pay for more additional shit? Nah
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
What is with all the people coming out of the woodwork being shocked that a AAA game made by a AAA company is being sold for a AAA price? Especially when it has ALWAYS been sold this way. It's not like it was F2P for all it's life and now out of nowhere it is a full priced game. CoD has the same business model and makes basically infinite money. Why would EA of all people not do the same thing in order to maximize profits off of one of it's most historically successful series.
It makes literally no sense to expect anything else. Where have you all been for the last 10 years as we watched this become the norm?
It makes literally no sense to expect anything else. Where have you all been for the last 10 years as we watched this become the norm?
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.Pennywise
Banned
But some blue people told me 70 dollars games were ok because they would give more and prevent more microtransactions!
DeaDPo0L84
Member
Your question only makes sense if the 2/3 you're leaving held any value to the person you're asking. Me personally I never played the campaigns cause that is not what Battlefield is to me and I always felt they hindered the multi-player portion of the game development wise which is where I put my personal value.
So in a sense the fact that there isn't a campaign means I personally value this Battlefield over previous versions cause I know going in that 100% of development focus was put into the portion of the game I personally value.
I dont understand why anybody cares that Battlefield is dropping the campaigns, they were almost always ass and even then, Battlefield didnt even have campaigns up until Bad Company. This isnt exactly new for the series. And I'm pretty sure the new maps and stuff are free, just the battle pass "seasons" have a free tier and a paid tier like CoD and Fortnite do.
How many maps that can handle over a hundred players do you need?
PUBG had one game map at launch. I gonna put money on BF6 with seven large scale maps that are likely to be the classic long slog match (30 minutes or more) that folks aren't going to get bored. This isn't CoD with 100 small maps for 16 players.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
There is nothing retarded about the concept of paid DLC. What's retarded is expecting free shit just because you bought something for full price.
Paid DLC maps have been a thing since console multiplayer became a thing. Everyone paid $60 for cod every year then $15 per map pack. Every single game from CoD to Battlefield to Killzone and Destiny have done this.
MAG was single player only for $60. BF used to be a single player only franchise for almost 10 years. This is nothing new.
now if you are a single player Battlefield fan then I can understand you being upset. If i were you i would not buy the game, but 99% of players dont buy BF for single player campaigns.
Well, the lack of SP and the lackluster most recent installments most certainly have something to do with people's reactions. Can't really fault people for getting dissapointed by the prospect of paying to keep paying for a game that hasn't met the expectations for a long time.
Anyway, that aside, I bet this is free on gamepass within a couple months of 2022 tops. Won't do me any good but maybe it will hit PS+ too.
And finally, I wonder if EA is blowing an opportunity by not making it F2P. Sure it would be risky, but if they ever wanted to knock COD down from its perch, and soak up the Fortnite money stream, it is the only likely pathway.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
You don't have to pay for anything other than the game. Maps are included. So are guns. So are specialists. Literally the only thing you would pay for is the battle pass if you want the cosmetics.
You tell me I only need a one time $70 payment and I get all the maps and guns included for no extra charge? Sign me up. Because that kicks the piss out of the "Battlefield Premium" nonsense that we had before. So if little Timmy wants to have their parents pay $15 so they can get some meme skins for their guns or characters I really couldn't bring myself to care.
ManaByte
Gold Member
MiguelItUp
Member
I have no clue and I was wondering the same thing. I mentioned how the reaction reminds me of when everyone found out about 1942, UT, Q3 and other games being multiplayer only. But they were full price at the time. Some loved them, some didn't, but the majority clearly did.
They have mentioned that there is a cross-play/F2P component of the game, but we haven't heard anything about it. It'll probably be similar to COD being a fully priced title, but then the Warzone component being F2P. All they've said is that it won't ever contain a BR.
Much like I said there, the saddest part in all of this IMO is just the fact that AAA game prices are as high as they are. A digital version of a single game being $100+ USD is baffling to me.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
No you had to buy the maps if I remember right. Which is WORSE than this because it cost more and divided the player base.
At least this time around you get all the stuff that matters for free with the game.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Recent installment* as in singular. BFV has been the only miss for them. Though it was a pretty big one tbf.
BF1 was a hit and really popular with the player base. And before that they had 3 and 4 which are obviously they biggest hits of all.
Hobbygaming
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Me. I loved the Battlefield 4 campaign. I enjoyed the missions in Battlefield 1 too. I won't be buying this one
MiguelItUp
Member
You did, they were 5 different packs that were $15 a piece. Or you could get "BF3 Premium Service" that included all of them for $50 and you got to play them a bit earlier.
I wholeheartedly agree. I think people are knee jerking and raging for the sake of raging IMO. Unless you REALLY loved the BF campaigns, then I guess I get it. I just never cared for them as they didn't even exist for the longest period, lol. The only thing that sucks IMO is the cost of modern AAA gaming, but it is what it is. At least on PC you can typically get those titles for a cheaper price.
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Yeah it makes no logical sense. If all you want is the game then it's $70 and that's it. You get all future core support items like maps, guns and specialists for free after that. If you want the cosmetics then you gotta buy them.
This is a MASSIVE improvement over "Premium". I don't understand how anyone could say this is a step back.
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I didn't realize BF1 was popular. I bought it day 1, tried to like it a bunch of times, and just couldn't get into it. None of my friends liked it either.
Part 4 though - those were the days. I almost certainly invested more hours into part 4 than any other single iteration of a shooter last gen except for Fortnite (if you count it).
VN1X
Banned
Javthusiast
Banned
Still way overpriced.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
How? It's priced like literally every other major AAA release.
Or are you just saying games in general cost too much?
MiguelItUp
Member
Yuuuup. I mean, if you miss the campaigns, then yeah, I get it. I feel bad for you, that sucks.
But if you're going to be getting all future game content free of cost except cosmetics, I think that's outstanding. Especially when it could've been monetized much, much worse. If that changes, well then, fuck EA and DICE, lmao.
But until then, I don't think this is nearly as bad as it could be, so I would be saying EA/DICE BAD just yet.
Welp, that's just a problem with modern AAA game prices. Also a reason why I never bought Returnal. The idea of paying that much money for that style of game feels... odd to me. Which sucks, but it is what it is.
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Oh yeah BF1 was great. I have more time in BF1 than I do any other entry aside from BF3. The gunplay was amazing and the setting felt like a huge change for the time.
Bear*Walken*the*Sweeper
Member
Games with paid seasons like Fortnite and now Destiny are free to play, That is clearly the market they are aiming toward.
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
ZywyPL
Banned
Times have changed, BF has basically no trump card nowadays - 128 players doesn't shock anyone today, at all, it was something big when MAG arrived, but not today. Massive maps, same deal, done to death. No destruction, just like every other shooter out there. Really, there are multiple F2P games that offer 90% experience of modern BF games. And actually seeing how many people are on that trailer and how few vehicles, all that on even bigger maps, I'm afraid the gameplay will be more dull and boring than ever, with even more walking from A to B instead of actually fighting with other players. So again, it's very possible that all those F2P BR games with their shrinking maps will not only offer more or less the same gameplay experience, but will be also way more action packed. And again, all of that for free. Even the yearly CoDs have harder and harder times to keeping up since Warzone launched, let amone franchise that's on a serious downhill for years. But you're right, one thing hasn't change at all throughout all thise years, EA is as usuall talking about DLCs before even showing the game itself.
PSNplanetcolony
Member
Thank you! I never played through the campaigns as BF is meant for multiplayer. Producing campaigns were distractions for DICE imo.
I like what im hearing and seeing for 2042 so far, pretty excited. If they fully support the game and eliminate game breaking bugs EARLY, this can be their biggest hit.
I have a PS5 but like using PC for Battlefield/Multiplayer FPS games. I will have to do a new PC build for this 1 game.
SantaC
Member
Battlefield started as MP game only.
All SP has been shitty and even lowered the review scores.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
CoD isn't. And it makes all the money in the world with every release. Why would Battlefield be any different?
Also Destiny is not free to play. You have to buy the expansions. So that's not a good example. Apex would be a better one. I'll give you fortnite though.
But this is going to have more polish and effort put into it than either of those F2P games and the future updates will be free. So I don't mind paying full price for it.
SantaC
Member
Lol like a shitty 4 hours scripted campaign changes things? Now you really got your money worth.
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Xeaker
Member
In the past, you would have been able to unlock those cosmetics for free.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
I disagree with basically all of this, but where did they say there was no destruction?
Bear*Walken*the*Sweeper
Member
Battlefield Bad Company 2 and Battlefield 3 and 4 had pretty substantial campaigns. EA started trending away from those with Battlefield 1. So if they were distractions it's EA's fault for turning them into when they didn't use to be.
Hitchyhero
Banned
This sounds more and more like a F2P game that's a $70 purchase to begin with. This game will tumble in price once the initial people have bought it. EA will know they will make more money the more people have access to the season passes.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
You know what you are right.
10 years ago you would have. You can't anymore. Which definitely sucks, but it's not exactly breaking news.
GHG
Gold Member
Why have 10 maps when you can just have one?
This is a free to play game being sold as a full priced game.
I'm not shocked you're supportive of this, it's the future you've been advocating for a while.
Silent Viper
Banned
BF primarily MP game.70$, no campaign and paid seasons, will wait for garbage bin sale
Also Paid season pass part of every game now. Season pass all cosmetics. NOT P2W
Bear*Walken*the*Sweeper
Member
You can play Warzone without buying the latest CoD though.
Phunkydiabetic
Banned
Welp, my hype just increased exponentially.
MiguelItUp
Member
Correct. With 2042 they've also said there WILL be a F2P and Crossplay component that they'll talk about at a later date. So I'm expecting something similar, just not a BR as they've said they're not touching BR.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
And? It's a battle royale.
ZywyPL
Banned
They mentioned an updated Levelution, so just a micro level destruction like in BF3/4, so just cosmetics that don't affect the gameplay