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[evanft]

BIG EDIT: Problem solved! You have to right click the game shortcut, go to compatibility, then into change high DPI settings. In there you're going to check the box for overriding the high DPI scaling behavior and set the drop down to application. This fixed the issue in both Sigma 1 and Razor's Edge.


Original Post
So I recently installed Sigma and NG3 from the collection, and when playing them I noticed both seemed awfully low-res despite being set to 4k in Steam. I double-checked the window title and sure enough, they both said [4k] after the game name, indicating that the option selection was running.

When actually looking at the games, though, it's clear that they're not running at 4k at all. In fact, it seems to me that they're running at an internal res of 720p and the resolution option is basically just the "window" size.

PC at "4k"

RPCS3 at 4k

Extreme zoom on Ryu

 

[Stuart360]

Wait this collection is already out on PC?, where can you buy it?

 

[Buggy Loop]

I haven’t seen a fuckup of this magnitude since a long long time.

 

[Kuranghi]

Wtaf, thats complete garbo-trash, learn to PC japanese devs! Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

Can't they at least hire someone who is well versed in the things you have to consider when porting/working with PCs to look at the code and tell them how fucked it is and how to do things properly.

There is always bizarre shit like this that can seemingly be fixed in under a week in someones spare time, thank god for CookieMonster/SilentPatch.

OP, did you try disabling fullscreen optimisations in the properties for the .exe to make sure its not some windows scaling thing? What happens when you run it in a window?

 

[Stuart360]

Wtaf, thats complete garbo-trash, learn to PC japanese devs! Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

Can't they at least hire someone who is well versed in the things you have to consider when porting/working with PCs to look at the code and tell them how fucked it is and how to do things properly.

There is always bizarre shit like this that can seemingly be fixed in under a week in someones spare time, thank god for CookieMonster/SilentPatch.

Yeah i dont know what it is with Jaspanese devs and PC, but this stuff happens quite often. And like you said, once its known it gets fixed really quick, but didn they know beforehand? lol.

 

[Kuranghi]

Wait this collection is already out on PC?, where can you buy it?

Don't you already have an X1X/XSS/XSX to play the og releases on in 4K60? Prob a better experience there, since those aren't the Sigma versions as well.

 

[Rei dos Vermes]

What a shame! KOEI TECMO never learn.

 

[EDMIX]

Yeah i dont know what it is with Jaspanese devs and PC, but this stuff happens quite often. And like you said, once its known it gets fixed really quick, but didn they know beforehand? lol.

Agreed. Its why I tend to stay the fuck away from that stuff on PC and save my favorite Japanese stuff for PS and Nintendo.

Keep in mind, its not to say I don't want my friends to play Yakuza or Persona on PC, shit play the fuck out of that, but MOST Japanese publishers that port to PC, don't take such great care. They have a long way to go as PC in Japan just isn't that popular compared to console, handheld etc.

 

[Stuart360]

Don't you already have an X1X/XSS/XSX to play the og releases on in 4K60? Prob a better experience there, since those aren't the Sigma versions as well.

No i'm PC only. I knew this was coming but i didnt know it was already out. Is it on Steam?.

 

[Kuranghi]

No i'm PC only. I knew this was coming but i didnt know it was already out. Is it on Steam?.

Aye:

Save 33% on [NINJA GAIDEN: Master Collection] NINJA GAIDEN Σ on Steam

3 high speed ninja action titles are now available in one package!

store.steampowered.com

I'd just buy that and then emulate it personally though.

 

[ManaByte]

 

[Stuart360]

Agreed. Its why I tend to stay the fuck away from that stuff on PC and save my favorite Japanese stuff for PS and Nintendo.

Keep in mind, its not to say I don't want my friends to play Yakuza or Persona on PC, shit play the fuck out of that, but MOST Japanese publishers that port to PC, don't take such great care. They have a long way to go as PC in Japan just isn't that popular compared to console, handheld etc.

Just reading the Steam forums, and apparently Kotaku said its on of the laziest PC ports ever. Damn shame, and hopefully it gets patched.

EDIT. Apprently you can run higher resolutions, but you need to force it. Trying to get info.

CHANGING THE OUTPUT RESOLUTION
You can set the output resolution for playing this game.

Note: The resolutions below are supported.
1280 x 720, 1920 x 1080, 3840 x 2160

To configure the resolution, open the game's Properties from your Steam® Library.By entering "720p", "1080p", or "4k" in the text field of "LAUNCH OPTIONS", you can fix the resolution to the corresponding value.
By setting the game to a low resolution, you can reduce the processing load.

 

[cireza]

Bottom pic feels reminiscent of GBA games with digitized graphics.

 

[EDMIX]

Just reading the Steam forums, and apparently Kotaku said its on of the laziest PC ports ever. Damn shame, and hopefully it gets patched.

EDIT. Apprently you can run higher resolutions, but you need to force it. Trying to get info.

Damn that fucking sucks. Thats one of my biggest gripes gaming on PC, is lazy ports. Granted we don't see the same crazy shit like we saw from Arkham Knight, its still hit or miss some times.

 

[Orta]

Lots of user reviews on Steam claiming its a piss poor lazy port too. I was undecided about getting it anyway but this has made my mind up.

 

[Stuart360]

Damn that fucking sucks. Thats one of my biggest gripes gaming on PC, is lazy ports. Granted we don't see the same crazy shit like we saw from Arkham Knight, its still hit or miss some times.

To be fair, it seems to be mostly Japanese devs these days. Is PC gaming dead in Japan or something?

 

[Skifi28]

The Ninja Gaiden Master Collection PC port isn't going down well

The Ninja Gaiden Master Collection is out now - and its PC port has been found wanting.The PC version of this action ga…

www.eurogamer.net

In most games, you're able to change the resolution via in-game settings. Not so in The Ninja Gaiden Master Collection. To set a specific resolution, you have to open the game's properties from your Steam library, and manually enter the resolution you want ("720p", "1080p" or "4k") in the text field of Launch Options.

Perhaps it has to do with this? Seems like a mess.

 

[Birdo]

Damn it! I wanted to see those glorious 2004 textures in 4K!!!

 

[SJRB]

The Ninja Gaiden Master Collection PC port isn't going down well

The Ninja Gaiden Master Collection is out now - and its PC port has been found wanting.The PC version of this action ga…

www.eurogamer.net

Perhaps it has to do with this? Seems like a mess.

I feel sorry for the poor intern who had to make these ports.

What a mess.

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Any other game and I would be upset.

But it's Ninja Gaiden so it gets a pass.

As long as frame rate is locked. (30, 60 whatever)

 

[sn0man]

OP you’re just zooming in a billion times. The different versions look just fine to me on my phone. What are you digital foundry?

 

[GHG]

These developers have no shame.

At least steam offers refunds, no reason anyone should have to put up with this crap, it's not 2006 anymore.

 

[DevilMayFlyForAWhiteGuy]

Man I feel bad for people who don’t have an Xbox trying to play these. It’s pretty embarrassing that the original titles running backwards compatible have more upgrades than a supposed remaster. The fact that they’re the inferior Sigma versions (well Sigma 1 isn’t bad, just makes pointless changes and Rachelle sections kinda suck), adds insult to injury.

 

[TGO]

Think of the framerates though

 

[Holammer]

They should have hired Durante to do the port. He could have done it and made it purdier at the same time.

PH3 Games

PH3 games provides port development and performance consulting services.

games.ph3.at

 

[Mister Wolf]

Should have just hired Durante's studio to port the games if Tecmo's in house guys didn't know what they were doing.

 

[evanft]

Just reading the Steam forums, and apparently Kotaku said its on of the laziest PC ports ever. Damn shame, and hopefully it gets patched.

EDIT. Apprently you can run higher resolutions, but you need to force it. Trying to get info.

The Ninja Gaiden Master Collection PC port isn't going down well

The Ninja Gaiden Master Collection is out now - and its PC port has been found wanting.The PC version of this action ga…

www.eurogamer.net

Perhaps it has to do with this? Seems like a mess

Did you read my post?

So I recently installed Sigma and NG3 from the collection, and when playing them I noticed both seemed awfully low-res despite being set to 4k in Steam. I double-checked the window title and sure enough, they both said [4k] after the game name, indicating that the option selection was running.

 

[Skifi28]

Did you read my post?

Yes.

 

[MMaRsu]

Ninja Dog Collection

 

[MMaRsu]

OP you’re just zooming in a billion times. The different versions look just fine to me on my phone. What are you digital foundry?

Your... Phone??

 

[Javthusiast]

 

[Saucy Papi]

What an absolute embarrassment. It almost seems like it's basically the PS3 version running in a wrapper. No graphical options or anything. With that said, I'm still extremely happy it's available for PC at least. I just wish they had put more effort into it.

 

[evanft]

What an absolute embarrassment. It almost seems like it's basically the PS3 version running in a wrapper. No graphical options or anything. With that said, I'm still extremely happy it's available for PC at least. I just wish they had put more effort into it.

You're honestly better off running it under RPCS3 if your PC can handle it. The load times are better on PC, but so far that seems to be the only real improvement.

 

[MMaRsu]

Youre better off buying an Series X and playing the games there

 

[scoobidoo112]

As if I needed more reasons not to buy this. Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden 2 running on Series X is basically all you need.

 

[MadchesterManc]

Koei Tecmo ports are usually bobbins aside from most of the Atelier games. Hell, I remember when they used to do PS3 ports of games that had PS4 versions

 

[SaturnSaturn]

Noooooooo One X and Series X chads wins again!!!!

 

[Max_Po]

 

[evanft]

As if I needed more reasons not to buy this. Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden 2 running on Series X is basically all you need.

Both run at 4k on the One X and Series X. That makes them the definitive experiences.

 

[Hawks Eclipse]

Any other game and I would be upset.

But it's Ninja Gaiden so it gets a pass.

As long as frame rate is locked. (30, 60 whatever)

Dude, you have an XSS right? I'd suggest just sticking to the originals via BC there unless you absolutely have to play as Rachel.

 

[Hawks Eclipse]

They should have hired Durante to do the port. He could have done it and made it purdier at the same time.

PH3 Games

PH3 games provides port development and performance consulting services.

games.ph3.at

Speaking of Durante, I wonder if he's commented on Reddit about these.

 

[Shrap]

Ah! The old vaseline filter. Really gives me that 7th gen nostalgia.

 

[jonnyXx]

I loved Ninja Garden Black and Ninja Garden 2, Ninja Garden 3 is possibly the most disappointing game I've ever played. Still I would love to buy this and support the series but...

 

[Saucy Papi]

You're honestly better off running it under RPCS3 if your PC can handle it. The load times are better on PC, but so far that seems to be the only real improvement.

 

[evanft]

I loved Ninja Garden Black and Ninja Garden 2, Ninja Garden 3 is possibly the most disappointing game I've ever played. Still I would love to buy this and support the series but...

The best way to play NGB and NG2 is on a One X or Series X. They run at a pretty much locked 4k60. NG2 especially really holds up graphically. Stunning game. For the Sigma releases, RPCS3 seems to run the first one well. I haven't had a chance to play Sigma 2 or Razor's Edge, but I doubt they're any different.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Guess I'll just try to emulate Black on XEMU. Sad.

 

[Fbh]

A bad PC port by Koei Tecmo?

OP you’re just zooming in a billion times. The different versions look just fine to me on my phone. What are you digital foundry?

Don't look at it on your phone then? Even on my 14" laptop screen the difference is very obvious and unacceptable for a brand new "remaster"

 

[Saucy Papi]

Youre better off buying an Series X and playing the games there

If you can find one.

 

[ethomaz]

I believe that is fine... some console players said to me resolutions like 675p looks fine on 1080p TV... the same should be true for PC games on 1080p monitors.

/s

Being serious now... that collection started wrong and it will end wrong.
Bad choices over bad choices.

It is really sad what they did with it.

 

[Rekki-Maru]

zero issues on Xbox (ninja gaiden black og actual master collection)