Sure if it was a platform of users who actually like to pay full price for games not 10 dollars from any loophole 3rd world store they can find. Let's see 100% of 69.99 or 70% of 10-20 dollars. I'm still waiting for this huge seller on PC for a Sony game so far nothing but a wimper. A 3-5 million launch period sales with over 100 million users there is no excuse for it not happening. But we seen PC users love to spend on hardware not software. Trading full price sales for 10-20 dollar sales is bad business.
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God of War, Returnal and Demon Souls - Found in GeForce NOW database
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
If some people want to apologize to him, they can.
None needed from me. I knew Sony would release more games. Just a matter of which ones and when.
I didnt know this until this thread, but even Nintendo released a Super Mario game in China. If they can, anyone can go PC.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
PC's can come dirt cheap or not, however to emulate a console performance at 4k it will take both a decent GPU + processor even a 3060 + 5600x will cost more than a PS5. You also need solid state storage + a decent mother board (for those sweet premium audio codecs, after all PS5 has tempest built in) + a reliable PSU and ram... so what are we up to if you can get them at RRP? Near double the price + additional effort.
Have you seen how much games are on the PlayStation summer sale? What a stupid argument to make, prices on the steam sale are set by the game publishers themselves they have to opt into a Steam sale, they do so because its financially beneficial.
If that makes the PS5 pointless to you OK fine but let me show you something or rather two things...
So this is not some jealous fanboy who does not own a PS5 this is coming from a consumer who owns a PS5 and owns a 3+ grand PC, so let's just assume this opinion is coming from someone who is unbiased because I own everything, platform is not an issue for me.
I will always need a game console, that's because it's nice and cheap to buy a system I can plug and play into my huge ass top of the range 4K Q90T and play games on it. I also have a PC and its nice to run competitive FPS games at 240 frames on my Samsung G7 gaming monitor. It's my choice as a consumer what I play games on, that is good for me it will never be not good for me to choose where and how I play a game, the only point it could be bad is for Sony.
So let's assume your making the argument on Sony's behalf because the other reason "pride" is not worth thinking about. Let's also bypass the fact a multimillion pound global conglomerate does not need you to argue business decisions on there behalf as they have well paid PR teams for that. Sony would not do this if there was not profit in it for them, they have looked at how the chips have fallen and can see they will make more money releasing games on PC than they will lose in console sales, because at the end of the day Sony's has looked at what it has to gain by releasing first party titles on other platforms and found it wins out from the limited loss of console sales.
So if that makes a Playstation pointless for you as you have a PC, why are you arguing against it? The fact you can play more games you want to play without investing in an exspensive console benefits you... YOU the consumer save money here, how is it logical to be against that option of choice?
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LordCBH
Member
Uncharted 4 is like 7 years old. Got of War is going on 4 years old next year. How does this devalue anything?
ZywyPL
Banned
People are mad that other will get to play the same games for cheaper with better performance, that's all there is.
j0hnnix
Gold Member
But isn't that the beauty of PC gaming? You don't need a 3080 to play these games. They'll work just fine with an older GPU until you can find the card you want. No waiting required. Unless you're one of those weird gamers that only ever plays a game once and never, ever considers a replay.
Topher
Gold Member
Well, that isn't going to tell the whole story across different architectures. Only gaming benchmarks will do that. But let's say PS5 is more in line with a 2070, you are still looking at around 10% on the PC side that are equivalent in GPU. I wouldn't call that tiny. Regardless, I still doubt Returnal or Demon Souls will require even a 2060 in its minimum requirements. The game isn't going to look as good as the PS5 version across all hardware, obviously.
Bryank75
Banned
Naaa you got it backwards, exclusives increase competition between platforms and are extremely pro-consumer.
Just because something doesn't immediately benefit you, doesn't mean it is anti-consumer.
Also you are probably not a consumer of PlayStation.
If you had pointed to raising prices, 10 dollar upgrade fees and shutting down the PS3 / Vita store....those are real anti-consumer moves.
The real anti-consumer aspect of this is that these games were marketed as PS exclusive, so porting them makes all of that a lie. They lied to their customers and that should not stand.
DragonNCM
Member
I love this if is real......so I can play it on my PC for half price then on my PS5.
What is now point to have PS5 ? Can someone remind me?
I'm longtime Sony fun but I think this will not end well for them.This will drasticly lower ps5 sales in long term.
First they charge us for PS5 "paches" & PC players will get games with best performance under lower cost.
WHO THE FUCK IS MAKING THIS MARKETING MOVES......FIRE HIM.
Gameplaylover
Member
yurinka
Member
Yep. If Sony decides to port them to PC maybe in 4 or 5 years from now after they ported to PC many other PS3 and PS4 games before, I assume they will accept hardware lower than the original one, which I assume (I have no idea) they are doing now with PS4 games. If needed they can include settings to disable some effects, reduce FPS and resolution and maybe even to create a lower set of textures and models if needed.
Other than visual stuff these games don't have anything that prevents them to run in less capable hardware. In fact Demon's Souls was originally a PS3 game.
The list is fake. Can you play Scalebound there?
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ManaByte
Gold Member
Legendary copypasta created this day.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Vagswarm
Member
I'd be most surprised by that one coming to PC. It feels like their big flagship title. Then again the same could be said about Uncharted.
Guilty_AI
Member
that doesn't mean you can't tho
Guilty_AI
Member
ftfy
tusharngf
Member
what about people trading games at gamestop its the same on PC but digitally. Atleast developers get some money.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
the SSD is needed
demon souls evil can't be contained in an old slow hdd
STARSBarry
Gold Member
Walled Gardens are not pro consumer, epic managed to ironically argue this point in court this week and win.
We have economic history to easily show why limitating the consumer is bad, businesses should work around the consumer not the consumer work around business. Playstation have taken recent steps because they have seen its benefit from there rival Microsoft.
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Yes not a Playstation consumer I'm sure those 137 digital titles will feel left out, I'd go into my loft to get the rest of my PS3, Vita, PSP, PSX and PS2 collections If you like, easily another 200.
Please get over yourself.
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martino
Member
Bryank75
Banned
Walled Gardens are not pro consumer, epic managed to ironically argue this point in court this week and win.
We have economic history to easily show why limitating the consumer is bad, businesses should work around the consumer not the consumer work around business. Playstation have taken recent steps because they have seen its benefit from there rival Microsoft.
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Yes not a Playstation consumer I'm sure those 137 digital titles will feel left out, I'd go into my loft to get the rest of my PS3, Vita, PSP, PSX and PS2 collections If you like, easily another 200.
Please get over yourself.
Without the 'walled garden' model, you seem to despise...there would be no reason to create such exclusives to attract people. Having the option of a unified, closed platform with more security and safeguards, integrated friends lists, trophies and other media is exactly what many want.
You want to take away that option?
The Apple case has no implication for games. So, sit on that. ha
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
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Larxia
Member
I never understood this logic. There are many people who just aren't interested in playing on PC, in fact I know several ones, some people just want a console in their home on their tv and that's it.
With this logic, there wouldn't be a single Xbox Series console sold, since all the games are available on PC.
It's really so weird. When I was younger, I used to play on playstation consoles, I had PS1,2,3 and psp. And I did play many exclusives, but... never because they were exclusives, I didn't even really think about it, I just played the games I had access to, and didn't care if others could play it or not. I wasn't interested in having a PC when I was a kid, and now I only play on PC, it just depends on what the person want, not everyone wants to focus on a gaming PC.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
Money, its why there releasing these games on PC in the first place because there's more money from selling exclusives on anouther platform, for that to work they have to be good enough to compete in that market. If it results in less profit for Sony you can bet there ass they will pull out.
Not yet, and I'm sitting quite happy because let's not forget Sonys choice is doing what I want right now, there just not doing what you want. Let me tell you its so nice to be able to replay Horizon at 120FPS it was a great choice that I had there. I'm sure you would agree if you had a chance to try it, but I'm guessing your not a PC consumer.
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junguler
Banned
what an amazing time to be a pc gamer, i switched to linux 6 months ago and kept playing all of my favorite games on it, steam deck is going to effectively make pc gaming on the go a possibility for the masses, microsoft releasing all of their xbox games on steam and sony is one by one releasing their playstation games on steam too.
cireza
Member
Looks awesome actually, as it means I can try other people's wives.
Dumbest analogy I have ever read here by the way.
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Bryank75
Banned
In the short term you may be right but you'd be foolish to think there will not be consequences for this....
Twinblade
Member
Jim Ryan is an Microsoft mole.
Bonfires Down
Member
Dude, you could have told me that before my dick got all mangled.
ClosBSAS
Member
lol pc gamers have had ssds for a very long time. maybe thats what they sell you on consoles, that no game can run without an ssd. i very much doubt demons souls cant work on a fucking hdd, longer loading times yes...but nothing screams BAH GAWD SON, SSD SO FAST LIHTNING CANT REACH IT! in that game.
Javthusiast
Banned
I identify with a plastic box so much, every time an exclusive game for it comes to pc it's like watching my wife be gang banged in front of me.
ViolentP
Member
Comfy couch.
Needlecrash
Member
If this list is true....I'm not getting a PS5. Give me Demon's Souls Remake, Ghosts of Tsushima and Returnal and I'm good.
The fact that Days Gone, Horizon: Zero Dawn and Uncharted Legacy of Thieves collection were on the list too (since they've been on PC/will have a PC release) leaves me to think there's some sort of legitimacy here.
The fact that Days Gone, Horizon: Zero Dawn and Uncharted Legacy of Thieves collection were on the list too (since they've been on PC/will have a PC release) leaves me to think there's some sort of legitimacy here.
Banjo64
cumsessed
PS5 cost £359 or £449.
Comparable PC build £1000.
Preference for plug in and play couch gaming.
Dislike for Windows/Linux OS.
Investment in Trophy system.
There’s plenty of reasons.
However, why would you want to artificially be locked in to a piece of hardware to play the software you want? Personally I love that MS and now Sony are being pro-consumer and are allowing us to choose which platform we play their games on.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
This is unironically one of the big wins for me, I like to sit controller in hand, feet up, hot cup of tea on one side and a pork pie on the other, playing my game of choice.
Sitting upright playing PC for hours on end with a keyboard and mouse don't half knack your back.
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Gamezone
Gold Member
Why would you be pissed? Do you enjoy your toys less because others can enjoy them?
martino
Member
You want a crazy opinion...now that i have a standing/seated desk i surprise myself to use my long hdmi cable (usually for my pc on the tv ) to play ps5 on my pc screen standing...I use the couch less and less.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Gamers act like they’ve never seen a game go to another platform.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Easily doable with a pc.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
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