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[Digital Foundry] Deathloop - The Technical Review
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DonJorginho
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Autocorrect can suck my hairy DEATHLOOP loving balls
ethomaz
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Article.
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Deathloop PS5's graphics modes compared: which is the best way to play?
Arkane is back - and it's no secret that Digital Foundry enormously admires the kind of immersive sim experience this s…
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Umbasaborne
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Im sort of surprised we are still seeing low resolutions for high frame rates. Obviously 4k 60 is expensive, but i would have assumed it could do better than what deathloop seems to be putting out. If this had the visual fidelity of say, demons souls i would get the trade off
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Bernd Lauert
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Yeah, drops all the way down to 1080p are a bit surprising. Game seems to need more ressources than anticipated.
Vaelka
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Tbh it's probably fun but the art direction doesn't appeal to me at all it looks too similar to like every game ever made.
CheeseCake
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This game is so unoptimized... sweet jesus
GymWolf
Member
Very few games have a 60s aesthetic but ok.
Hugare
Member
lol, how many games have a sci fi 60's look?
'Cause I want to play them
Cant remember one being released since No One Lives Forever
Vaelka
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Well you're right about that, I was moreso talking about the overall style of '' realism ''.
But I will give you that the 60's aesthetic is a tad more original.
It doesn't really appeal to me personally tho.
GymWolf
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I can understand that, i'm not really huge fan of 60s myself, but after many games i just trust arkane when it comes to art design.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Man the game does not look good for a next gen only game. I really dont understand the point of DF vids anymore. Are they just for pixel counting and framerate analysis? This is a next gen only game that looks worse than last gen games. Surely they should spend some time talking about that. Compare the game to other next gen only games maybe.
We dont have many publications that focus on graphics and the ones that do apparently are only interested in basic pixel counting. Lame.
We dont have many publications that focus on graphics and the ones that do apparently are only interested in basic pixel counting. Lame.
Evilms
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- performance mode target 4K/60fps
- medium resolution 1296-1440p (1080p possible)
- quality mode 1836p target 60fps
- RT mode target 4K dyn/30fps
- lowest resolution 1836p
- performance mode is locked at 60fps 99% of the time
- quality mode is more like 40-50fps
- RT mode is locked at 30fps but have frame pacing issues
- PS5 performance in non-RT modes is similar to RX 5700 XT and RTX 2070 Super
- medium resolution 1296-1440p (1080p possible)
- quality mode 1836p target 60fps
- RT mode target 4K dyn/30fps
- lowest resolution 1836p
- performance mode is locked at 60fps 99% of the time
- quality mode is more like 40-50fps
- RT mode is locked at 30fps but have frame pacing issues
- PS5 performance in non-RT modes is similar to RX 5700 XT and RTX 2070 Super
rushgore
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Yes, DF videos used to include analysis of the overall visuals, but nowadays they just talk about resolution and framerate. They honestly do not have to make a video for it, they could just dump the info on a simple excel sheet and call it a day.
mansoor1980
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void engine sucks
Portugeezer
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Those graphics don't warrant such low res, even at 60fps. What engine is this using?
Bruno_Arrais85
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the graphics are not even that pretty. Weird optimization.
Portugeezer
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LOL they switch to Prey footage at one point in the video, and for a second I didn't even notice it was a different last gen game.
M1chl
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Wait...so what is the difference between performance and quality mode when both of those are in 60FPS? Looking at high res of the RT, makes me think that there is something CPU bound. I am stuck at traffic, so I can't really watch the video. Fuck traveling by car. Should have took metro.
skit_data
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Texture filtering seems to be much better in Visual mode
void engine which is based on idtech 5 (pre DOOM 2016).
RoadHazard
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So only the performance mode has acceptable performance (and luckily it's great in that mode).
I'm pretty sure that's just a result of a significantly higher rendering resolution. Filtering itself is the same.
I'm pretty sure that's just a result of a significantly higher rendering resolution. Filtering itself is the same.
RoadHazard
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Pretty much only resolution. Quality mode never goes below 85% of 4K, performance mode goes much lower.
mansoor1980
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shadows and ambient occlusion looks terrible without ray tracing
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Fbh
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Looks like the same one as their previous games.
Which is weird since they really seemed to have learned their lesson after Dishonored 2, with Prey being amazingly optimized at least on PC.
I remember there being a digital foundry article where they said they could get it to 1080p/60fps on a 2Gb GTX1050 by dropping a few graphical options
Performance and quality both "target" 60fps, but only performance mode hits it consistently 99% of the time.
Quality mode usually runs in the low 50's and drops to around 45fps during heavy combat sequences, it only reaches 60fps when looking at the floor, or some wall.
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sncvsrtoip
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this is how nextgen looks without any crossgen limitation/downgrades !
Mister Wolf
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They should drop the Void Engine. I'm glad the opted to use CryEngine for Prey instead.
GymWolf
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I think the game is extremely uneven, like enemies looks almost low poly but then you have some instances where the game looks pretty great (for an old gen game) with the right lights\scene.
Same for the textures, some very bad low res ones, and for example the leather on colt's jacket is as detailed as the leather on kratos in ragnarock (or very close)
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Captain Toad
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I hope you point this out with every other game ever made then.
LiquidMetal14
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Chalk this up to a less technically proficient studio and they didn't exactly have a budget of a AAA game.
I think it's a solid effort given their using DRS among other new gen tricks.
I think it's a solid effort given their using DRS among other new gen tricks.
Austin is using UE4 for Redfall iirc so I doubt Void will be used by Lyon next
ParaSeoul
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They're still using that shitty modified id Tech 6 from dishonoured 2 thats worse than actual id Tech 6
Leyasu
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The game was obviously in development long before the next gen console specs were known and was almost definitely conceived with the xbone and ps4 in mind.
Plus, I doubt that Arkane really gave this the polish that it deserved since they wont be releasing anything else on the platform again.
Plus, I doubt that Arkane really gave this the polish that it deserved since they wont be releasing anything else on the platform again.
TheTechnician
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And smaller team. I never had high Hope's for the PS5 Version. Smaller teams usually dont use console hardware efficiently.. the ger it running and then care for other stuff. Never a good comparision against the respective PC version..
However, laughed out when by the end of the vid I realized that Alex won't talk about load times..
The one Area where PS5 has an natural advantage over ANY PC out there is not talked about.. hehe who would have thought...
The small PC loving Twat will play this Game and marginalize PS5s I/O miracle right until Direct Storage is out and has its first couple of proper supported games with RTX I/O and what not . He THEN will make big comparison sections in his review videos where he shows how PC (LIKE 5% OF ALL PCs but will be portrayed as all PCs)is easily faster in loading than even a PS5 ...
The PC loving litte Turd haha
However, laughed out when by the end of the vid I realized that Alex won't talk about load times..
The one Area where PS5 has an natural advantage over ANY PC out there is not talked about.. hehe who would have thought...
The small PC loving Twat will play this Game and marginalize PS5s I/O miracle right until Direct Storage is out and has its first couple of proper supported games with RTX I/O and what not . He THEN will make big comparison sections in his review videos where he shows how PC (LIKE 5% OF ALL PCs but will be portrayed as all PCs)is easily faster in loading than even a PS5 ...
The PC loving litte Turd haha
thatJohann
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I'd gladly take a dynamic 1080p 60fps ray traced mode.
TheTechnician
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I do not plan to buy it for now but that might make me pull the trigger
SlimySnake
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kill me
FunkMiller
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Had a couple of freezes that lasted about five to ten seconds on Ps5, but other than that, it’s been butter in performance mode.
Lukaku's First Touch
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What does that mean? I have a 4k monitor.
Kuranghi
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Thanks for the summary.
What a bummer I was so hyped for this and the PC version has stuttering issues in general and with the PS5 version you are forced into a low res mode just to make it run properly, I'm going to wait until the PS5 RT modes frame-pacing is fixed or the PC version is fixed in general.
Watching now but this sounds ass, its not really a choice of modes if two of the three modes are broken/have massive downsides because constant v-sync stutter in the Quality mode is unacceptable and bad frame-pacing in the RT mode is always unplayable to me, since its 30fps. I was hoping to play this in the RT mode and just enjoy the image quality.
The RT seems to be a big part of the presentation, hopefully on PC there is actually an replacement for the missing AO when RT is off.
So I have to play at sub-1440p just to have it run properly? *blows raspberry* It doesn't look bad or anything but I'd rather wait and play it in a better state later on. Wtf is going on with these framepacing-fucked releases recently?!?? I don't care why its happening please just:
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