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Apple Preparing a ‘Portable Hybrid Console’ With a Brand New SoC That Offers Enhanced GPU Performance Increase
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Interfectum
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Casuals aren't going to buy shit. They have an iPhone with an App Store. So there goes that entire market.
For a portable console to survive it has to have hardcore gamer support. They aren't getting that with Ubisoft ports. It takes exclusives or don't bother.
Also, it doesn't matter how much money Apple has if consumers don't give a shit. Roku shitting on Apple TV, TV+ is about 1 season of Ted Lasso away from losing most of their subs yet they are simply going to roll into the gaming market, one of the hardest markets to break into, with a piece of hardware and the App Store? lol k.
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I Love Rock 'n' Roll
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Ted Lasso is fucking good man.
They have all the money. The only question is: do they care?
BootsLoader
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Actually Apple may very well enter the Console market without making a very expensive product. What you don't see is that the M1 Macbook Air which costs 1000$ has the same performance as a 2000$ or 2500$ Windows laptop. With that in mind they can make a cheap M1 like processor and go heah to head with Switch. Of course they can go with a normal 1M and compete with current gen.
They are smart people and their company is wealthy. The problem will be in finding support, they'll have to spend a lot of money to catch up but you can't just throw money here and there and catch up with the gaming industry. Nintendo and Sony, Microsoft also are making their empires for many many years now.
They are smart people and their company is wealthy. The problem will be in finding support, they'll have to spend a lot of money to catch up but you can't just throw money here and there and catch up with the gaming industry. Nintendo and Sony, Microsoft also are making their empires for many many years now.
Apple can making amazing hardware with great attention to detail of the overall user experience but that only goes so far in gaming.
Apple does not have the credibility in games and this is not so easy to acquire even if you are richer than god, look at Amazon for example and its dismal failures in producing games.
Also Switch 2/Pro and Steampal (if its real) means there will be much more stiff competition with large established game libraries, I would not be surprised at all if the product is killed and never released.
Apple does not have the credibility in games and this is not so easy to acquire even if you are richer than god, look at Amazon for example and its dismal failures in producing games.
Also Switch 2/Pro and Steampal (if its real) means there will be much more stiff competition with large established game libraries, I would not be surprised at all if the product is killed and never released.
Interfectum
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They don't care which is why they may try to enter the gaming market, flounder for a few years publicly calling it a 'hobby' and inevitably stop making new gaming-centric hardware at some point in the future.Ted Lasso is fucking good man.
They have all the money. The only question is: do they care?
Bottomline, if Apple tries to enter the gaming market with hardware and if they also do not spend $20-30 billion minimum on developers and IP along with that they may as well not bother.
ResilientBanana
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Competition is healthy and could drive Sony to be more innovative.
Sleepwalker
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Fuck apple and their overpriced garbage.
I Love Rock 'n' Roll
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We’ll see soon enough. A high end VR headset is say to come in 2021 or 2022.
Tiamat2san
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M1 seems to be really capable in performance per watt.
Maybe a slightly modified version could do the trick.
Maybe a slightly modified version could do the trick.
Great Hair
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Exclusive | Apple’s Nintendo Switch-Style Hybrid Game Console Is Coming, Along with Major Apple TV Redesign
Apple introduced the Apple TV in 2006 originally as iTV, but due to iTV being a European news agency, Apple was sued and renamed the device Apple TV. The original design was innovative for its time, and I have to admit it’s one of the best designs Apple has ever done. In my opinion, its current design is outdated and bulky. Luckily, I have good news.
Apple is going to do to the next Apple TV what it’s also doing to the Mac mini. The upcoming Mac mini will look like the original Apple TV from 2006 in its updated design.
Apple is on a trend of implementing the famed flat-edge design that was iconic with the iPhone 4 and iPhone 5. In April 2021, Apple redesigned the Siri Remote with the new design trend. It reminds me of the original Apple TV remote mixed with an original iPod Shuffle. The set-top box remained the same, but received an A12 Bionic as well as high-resolution HDR.
more at link
Exclusive | Apple's Nintendo Switch-Style Hybrid Game Console Is Coming, Along with Major Apple TV Redesign
Apple introduced the Apple TV in 2006 originally as iTV, but due to iTV being a European news agency, Apple was sued and renamed the device Apple TV. The
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Exclusive | Apple's Nintendo Switch-Style Hybrid Game Console Is Coming, Along with Major Apple TV Redesign
Apple introduced the Apple TV in 2006 originally as iTV, but due to iTV being a European news agency, Apple was sued and renamed the device Apple TV. The
www.idropnews.com
THE DUCK
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Hinges on price and support. They could put out a very powerful portable with the chips they have.......and Nintendo needs a kick in the ass, competition would be good. Imagine if MS and Sony decided to support it as 3rd party developers, all of the sudden Nintendo would have a crisis.
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Badlucktroll
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Some kind of ipodish gaming doo-dad for Apple arcade, powered by M1. Will probably sell gangbusters.
Coolwhhip
Neophyte
Competition is good sure, but what you described probably wont make Nintendo sweat. As long as they can sell hardware that plays Mario Kart and Pokemon they will be fine.
Marty-McFly
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Look at Switch's software sales bud.
First party software makes up nearly all their software and hardware sales.
We've had a lot of handhelds come over the years and boast better third party support and graphics than Nintendo's offerings and still get killed.
List of best-selling Nintendo Switch video games - Wikipedia
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No games, no exclusives, and how would ARM vs X86 work out? I love the idea of a great ARM console more powerful than the switch, and able to compete with X86 consoles. But 3rd parties seem so invested in X86 now with technically 3 revenues streams, 4 if you count Stadia. I'm not a programmer, So I don't know how easy it would be for multi platform developers even if the M1X or whatever has a decent GPU. Would it just end up being a console for Switch ports and Mobile phone games on the big screen? Also Apple never releases anything cheap.
FoundryMusic
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So 3 then.
TLZ
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Very nice. I hope it comes out very soon.Exclusive | Apple’s Nintendo Switch-Style Hybrid Game Console Is Coming, Along with Major Apple TV Redesign
Apple introduced the Apple TV in 2006 originally as iTV, but due to iTV being a European news agency, Apple was sued and renamed the device Apple TV. The original design was innovative for its time, and I have to admit it’s one of the best designs Apple has ever done. In my opinion, its current design is outdated and bulky. Luckily, I have good news.
Apple is going to do to the next Apple TV what it’s also doing to the Mac mini. The upcoming Mac mini will look like the original Apple TV from 2006 in its updated design.
Apple is on a trend of implementing the famed flat-edge design that was iconic with the iPhone 4 and iPhone 5. In April 2021, Apple redesigned the Siri Remote with the new design trend. It reminds me of the original Apple TV remote mixed with an original iPod Shuffle. The set-top box remained the same, but received an A12 Bionic as well as high-resolution HDR.
more at link
Exclusive | Apple's Nintendo Switch-Style Hybrid Game Console Is Coming, Along with Major Apple TV Redesign
Apple introduced the Apple TV in 2006 originally as iTV, but due to iTV being a European news agency, Apple was sued and renamed the device Apple TV. The
I've actually just bought an Apple TV for the first time days ago and gaming on it. I really like it. So looking forward to what they come up with with this rumour.
Great Hair
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THE DUCK
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Tell that to the Gamecube and the Wii U.
THE DUCK
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Look at Switch's software sales bud.
First party software makes up nearly all their software and hardware sales.
We've had a lot of handhelds come over the years and boast better third party support and graphics than Nintendo's offerings and still get killed.
List of best-selling Nintendo Switch video games - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
The vacuum of no other options on a handheld has put them in a position to sell a lot of their exclusives, some of which are fantastic. I'm a switch owner. But.......
No handheld that has ever hit the market from any other competitor has had better software to date. The Vita never had Sony's full attention, heck, not even half of it, and it failed to sell enough units for proper third party support either. And what else exactly came out that was property supported? Nothing.
This could change - and they should be worried about this.
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ValiantTraveler
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Have lots of killer apps ready before you try to enter the portable market, or the whole gaming market really.
Coolwhhip
Neophyte
Gamecube probably still made Nintendo money. Wii U wasn't because of competition though, that was entirely Nintendos own fuck up.
the M1 GPU is GTX 1050Ti tier, and you can probably imagine any next gen variant in a handheld would be around 1060 tier.
devs could port games via Rosetta and you’d still get 60fps gameplay at settings higher than the Deck.
A rumored portable would play every single iOS game, plus the Apple Arcade lineup and great ports of console games, running at visual settings the Switch can only dream about. Not to mention excellent emulation.
THE DUCK
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Both are considered failures, and prove the point that Nintendo doesn't live in a bubble.
What I described would 100% for sure take a massive bite out of nintendos pie regardless of thier exclusives. (Assuming stock levels exist and price point is similar)
Edgelord79
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I'm down for anything that increases competition in this space.
Marty-McFly
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You're talking like the PSP didn't get exclusive 3D GTA's and COD's. Now if Apple were to get third party support it would be 1) stuff that is already on Switch or 2) Stuff that's on Xbox, Playstation, Stadia, Steamdeck.
An Apple device would be more competition to that diluted market than Switch because it would feature the same games, while Switch makes 98% of its bread off of Nintendo games.
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Marty-McFly
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Your math is way off.
It would 100% take a massive bite out of Nintendo's pie (even though 98% of Nintendo's pie is exclusives)?
Wishful thinking on your end perhaps. Let's see Steamdeck get killed first and then have this conversation again.
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Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
not until apple get IP's that are worth it
I think the Steamdeck is a bigger threat than this thing would be. The iPhone has been out there for a decade with tons of games that aren't on Nintendo hardware, Nintendo themselves are a third party on the device to an extent, and Nintendo is doing great business right now. Yet another iOS device won't matter - if anything it'll just take a few already existing iOS gamers away from iPhone.
People have been waiting a decade for Apple to knock out Nintendo, Microsoft, or Sony.
People have been waiting a decade for Apple to knock out Nintendo, Microsoft, or Sony.
Sosokrates
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So it will be about as powerful as a steamdeck/PS4.
Its power will mean nothing unless it has games beyond mobile stuff.
The switch is powerful enough that being about 2-3x more powerful wont make that much of a difference.Switch games still hold up very well against far more advanced games. Mario odyssey may not be R+C rift apart, but imo it does not look bad in comparison.
Its power will mean nothing unless it has games beyond mobile stuff.
The switch is powerful enough that being about 2-3x more powerful wont make that much of a difference.Switch games still hold up very well against far more advanced games. Mario odyssey may not be R+C rift apart, but imo it does not look bad in comparison.
Onironauta
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This thing would be too expensive for casual gamers and its library too casual for hardcore ones, I don't see this being a threat for the Switch.
Onironauta
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The Steam Deck will probably stay a niche product
Sosokrates
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The problem with an avatar like this:
Is that on every post you make people will think thats the face you have, permanently.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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Raytracing on a passively cooled portable is simply a non-starter. Whatever is the implementation it will be too weak to achieve anything meaningful.
If this report is even true, the RT part will be a meaningless tick-box feature that doesn't achieve much outside of the most barebones RT effects at super low resolution, but to the detriment of the rest of the raster graphics being rendered.
If this report is even true, the RT part will be a meaningless tick-box feature that doesn't achieve much outside of the most barebones RT effects at super low resolution, but to the detriment of the rest of the raster graphics being rendered.
Sosokrates
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It may have a little fan like the switch and i think steamdeck, which has RT.
Little Mac
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If Apple is competitive with hardware pricing, it quite frankly takes over. It's not just a console ... its a robust and efficient ecosystem and online infrastructure. Nintendo would have to drop the concept and again innovate something new that no one else is doing.
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yurinka
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I think it could do the job maybe a smaller, cheaper iPad Mini with tvout mixed with an official, properly ergonomic Apple joycon-like attachments that could be connected together to the sides of any smarphone or tablet to turn them into a Pro Controller-like to play in this device, on the tv or in tabletop method and also as the standard iPhone, iPad, Mac or Apple TV controller.
Something like this, but better (imagine to have the left and right sides of a Pro-Controller or DualSense in the sides):
Apple sold over 425 million iPads since the original debuted in 2010. This is maybe more (or almost) than all portable consoles in gaming history including Switch ever sold combined.
And if we look at the money made with games, Apple gets more revenue from gaming than Nintendo without making 1st party games:
Top Public Video Game Companies | By Revenue | Newzoo
Newzoo's Top Video Game Companies ranking is updated every quarter. Features the top public video game companies by revenues.
newzoo.com
Mobile gaming market is so huge, over half of the gaming market and it's by far the fastest growing market so it's fair to think it will continue growing and increasing its market share in the following years:
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Melon Husk
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Onironauta
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I know Apple makes a shitton of money of games, but most people don't buy their devices specifically for gaming. I really doubt an iConsole would be nearly as successful as iPhones and iPads.I think it could do the job maybe a smaller, cheaper iPad Mini with tvout mixed with an official, properly ergonomic Apple joycon-like attachments that could be connected together to the sides of any smarphone or tablet to turn them into a Pro Controller-like to play in this device, on the tv or in tabletop method and also as the standard iPhone, iPad, Mac or Apple TV controller.
Something like this, but better (imagine to have the left and right sides of a Pro-Controller or DualSense in the sides):
I don't know the iPad Mini hardware sales, but maybe they already are bigger than Switch/3DS/Vita/PSP sales. They sell a shit ton of smartphones and tablets.
And if we look at the money made with games, Apple gets more revenue from gaming than Nintendo without making 1st party games:
Top Public Video Game Companies | By Revenue | Newzoo
Newzoo's Top Video Game Companies ranking is updated every quarter. Features the top public video game companies by revenues.
Mobile gaming market is so huge, over half of the gaming market:
yurinka
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Sure, an iConsole wouldn't be as successful as phones and ipads. But could be more successful than most consoles or portables, if not all by only reusing and maybe tweaking a bit their existing iOS & Mac hardware and games catalog.
If lucky they would brag about being leaders in gaming market and also bump a bit their gaming revenue by adding more paid AA & AAA games there, which right now is the weakest spot of their gaming catalog.
You may have missed this post, I suggest you to read it.
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