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4K 120hz Firmware rollout begins for Sony X900H / XH90
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120hz mode? The x900h has problems with 120 Hz mode. Sadly it still blurs the picture.
Paulxo87
Member
My latest update on my 75" x900h is months and months old likely from summer lol. It's so stable and I am afraid to upgrade. Each one brings bugs. has the local diming bug been ironed out with this latest release? Is this latest release even relatively bug free? BTW I love this TV so much. Certain content just has me staring at it sometimes in awe. I only sit like 8 feet away too lmao
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ManaByte
Gold Member
No amount of updates will fix that on the 2020 sets. That's why they upgraded the processor in the 2021 models.
NewYork214
Member
Are US people getting the update? Mine still hasn't been put up.
Have the x900h
Have the x900h
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
You do know other TV's that use the same mediatek chip have resolved this and others claim they will?
Maybe the same chip, but same clocks, bandwidth, etc?
I even get sound problems when using 120 Hz mode.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
The latest update brings Android 10.. Android 11 supposedly fixes many of these issues.
Justin9mm
Member
8 feet is about 2.4 metres which for a 75 inch is not too too close imo.. Probably about the optimal distance for immersive cinema viewing and gaming.
lucius
Member
I updated like a week ago through the TV, I am in the US. Local dimming is greyed out so I not bothering testing or using that unless that changes, but the menu seems to get lag more often, I kind of wish I waited. I do remember my Shield did the same after big Android update that eventually was fixed so I hope it gets worked out.
Shmunter
Member
If the TV gurus on YouTube are to be believed, every manufacturer has oddities with VRR.
mcjmetroid
Member
Any of ye get the VRR working?
I've a 2020 model and yes the option appears on the TV.
Nvidia recognises it as a G sync compatible monitor and I tried turning it on under display and turned vsync off but nope I'm getting screen tearing in games still.
I've a 2020 model and yes the option appears on the TV.
Nvidia recognises it as a G sync compatible monitor and I tried turning it on under display and turned vsync off but nope I'm getting screen tearing in games still.
Major Angry
Banned
This TV now has issues with 23.976fps content resulting is frame skips. Think I will get rid of this and buy a LG B1 instead.
Hollowpoint5557
A Fucking Idiot
Canada here. Got the update, only thing I noticed was the menu is now a bit less responsive.
Oh, also, if I leave the TV on on hdmi 3 with no content playing (i.e. screensaver) for too long and then go to turn on the Playstation 5 it almost always has no audio whatsoever and requires a hard restart of the TV to get the audio back.
Oh, also, if I leave the TV on on hdmi 3 with no content playing (i.e. screensaver) for too long and then go to turn on the Playstation 5 it almost always has no audio whatsoever and requires a hard restart of the TV to get the audio back.
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Kuranghi
Member
I would spend the extra and buy a C1, better gradient and near black handling which are the biggest issues on OLED. Perfect blacks are a bit pointless if the near black next to it is blocky and changing brightness every now and then.
Vasto
Member
The update just adds a 4th VRR option for your External Inputs so you dont have to use it if you dont want to. I am still using the Enhanced option.
Patch Notes for this update and VRR is not even listed so people are saying this is not the official VRR update that is supposed to come in December.
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
I'm in Europe and just got the Android 10 update this past week. That's the only thing in my patch notes.
Anyone else?
Anyone else?
Esppiral
Member
The last one is not true.The update just adds a 4th VRR option for your External Inputs so you dont have to use it if you dont want to. I am still using the Enhanced option.
Patch Notes for this update and VRR is not even listed so people are saying this is not the official VRR update that is supposed to come in December.
RafterXL
Member
You do know that they had to add a second chip to the 2021 Sonys to fix this problem, right? Why would they need to do that if they could just fix it with a firmware update?
It's not getting fixed on the 2020 models.
Major Angry
Banned
I don’t use 120hz mode, but I’ve read online that users have reported that the blurry issues are still present.
Esppiral
Member
Yes it is blurry but nothing matches how blurry it looks when you use VRR it reminds me of the first PS2 games that added a ton of blur to hide jaggies....
I regret immensely buying this TV......
Major Angry
Banned
I regret buying this also.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
This TV has become a major let down though I haven't been able to test the new update yet on mine
I have seen a lot of people claim they were successful in getting this TV refunded even way outside the return period because promised features either not being there or just flat broken.
I plan on returning mine to Best Buy even after having it well over a year they have already told me they would refund my money think I am just going to grab the Samsung Q90A seems like a much better TV and on sale in most places.
AudioSlave92210
Member
Feel the same. It may be my last sony tv.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
No chip was added to the other TV makers TV's.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
I see no blur playing Gears 5 120 MP via XSX.
I see a quality reduction playing Destiny 2 MP @120 MP on both PS5 and XSX but the game runs at lower resolution/settings in 120 mode.
Ori runs 120 and looks great.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Right there with you I don't see the blur either
Honestly I think its only certain games because Ori does look stellar on this TV at 4k 120
I havent tested the new VRR update though
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
The new VRR isn't the full release VRR I am hearing. It's Android 10 and 11 is needed to fully resolve certain issues.
I seen on the FB page that they added a Dolby Vision Game mode now.
Major Angry
Banned
Can you link the FB page you sawThe new VRR isn't the full release VRR I am hearing. It's Android 10 and 11 is needed to fully resolve certain issues.
I seen on the FB page that they added a Dolby Vision Game mode now.
Cheers
nightmare-slain
Member
"buy a x900h/xh90" they said. "it'll be good" they said. "don't buy an LG CX/1 cause they suck" they said.
The C1 is a great TV but there is very little difference. mostly cosmetic/UI. i have both TV's and there are a few differences:
1. the C1 uses a newer OS version which is webOS 6.0. the CX uses webOS 5.0 which i much prefer. 6.0 isn't bad but has more ads and you need to make an LG account to download some apps. on webOS 5.0 making an account is optional you can download any app. for example, i have Spotify on my CX with no account but to download it on my C1 i need to make an account. some apps you don't need an account but that could be just the preinstalled ones. on webOS 5.0 when you press the home button only a row of apps appear at the bottom of the screen. when you do this on webOS 6.0 the app screen (and adverts) take up the entire screen.
2. the remote is different. the CX has a thicker/curved design and the C1 has a slim/boxy design.
3. the back of the TV panel has a different finish but you don't buy a TV to stare at the back of it.
4. obviously the C1 will get software updates for longer - not really an issue i'd think. the CX fully supports both PS5/XSX consoles. the CX can do 4K 120Hz Dolby Vision...which is overkill for these consoles. a CX will see you through this entire generation so i wouldn't worry about features not being supported. it has 20-120Hz VRR support and even LFC (low frame rate compensation) for <20FPS.
Of course, you could just wait for the LG C2 which likely will be out early 2022. Or if you really do wait a year the LG C3 will be around the corner my point and TL;DR is anyone wanting an OLED you can't go wrong with a CX/C1. the C1 is a very minor update and the CX fully supports both current gen consoles. they are fantastic TVs. Once you go to OLED you will find it hard to go back to standard LED or even QLED. i bought the CX last year and bought the C1 for the living room because I hated using a standard LED. totally worth the price.
i know you say in a year or so but right now if you (or anyone else reading) can find a CX there's nothing wrong with picking one of them over a C1 if you can get a good price.
The C1 is a great TV but there is very little difference. mostly cosmetic/UI. i have both TV's and there are a few differences:
1. the C1 uses a newer OS version which is webOS 6.0. the CX uses webOS 5.0 which i much prefer. 6.0 isn't bad but has more ads and you need to make an LG account to download some apps. on webOS 5.0 making an account is optional you can download any app. for example, i have Spotify on my CX with no account but to download it on my C1 i need to make an account. some apps you don't need an account but that could be just the preinstalled ones. on webOS 5.0 when you press the home button only a row of apps appear at the bottom of the screen. when you do this on webOS 6.0 the app screen (and adverts) take up the entire screen.
2. the remote is different. the CX has a thicker/curved design and the C1 has a slim/boxy design.
3. the back of the TV panel has a different finish but you don't buy a TV to stare at the back of it.
4. obviously the C1 will get software updates for longer - not really an issue i'd think. the CX fully supports both PS5/XSX consoles. the CX can do 4K 120Hz Dolby Vision...which is overkill for these consoles. a CX will see you through this entire generation so i wouldn't worry about features not being supported. it has 20-120Hz VRR support and even LFC (low frame rate compensation) for <20FPS.
Of course, you could just wait for the LG C2 which likely will be out early 2022. Or if you really do wait a year the LG C3 will be around the corner
my point and TL;DR is anyone wanting an OLED you can't go wrong with a CX/C1. the C1 is a very minor update and the CX fully supports both current gen consoles. they are fantastic TVs. Once you go to OLED you will find it hard to go back to standard LED or even QLED. i bought the CX last year and bought the C1 for the living room because I hated using a standard LED. totally worth the price.
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Ellery
Member
"buy a x900h/xh90" they said. "it'll be good" they said. "don't buy an LG CX/1 cause they suck" they said.
i know you say in a year or so but right now if you (or anyone else reading) can find a CX there's nothing wrong with picking one of them over a C1 if you can get a good price.
The C1 is a great TV but there is very little difference. mostly cosmetic/UI. i have both TV's and there are a few differences:
1. the C1 uses a newer OS version which is webOS 6.0. the CX uses webOS 5.0 which i much prefer. 6.0 isn't bad but has more ads and you need to make an LG account to download some apps. on webOS 5.0 making an account is optional you can download any app. for example, i have Spotify on my CX with no account but to download it on my C1 i need to make an account. some apps you don't need an account but that could be just the preinstalled ones. on webOS 5.0 when you press the home button only a row of apps appear at the bottom of the screen. when you do this on webOS 6.0 the app screen (and adverts) take up the entire screen.
2. the remote is different. the CX has a thicker/curved design and the C1 has a slim/boxy design.
3. the back of the TV panel has a different finish but you don't buy a TV to stare at the back of it.
4. obviously the C1 will get software updates for longer - not really an issue i'd think. the CX fully supports both PS5/XSX consoles. the CX can do 4K 120Hz Dolby Vision...which is overkill for these consoles. a CX will see you through this entire generation so i wouldn't worry about features not being supported. it has 20-120Hz VRR support and even LFC (low frame rate compensation) for <20FPS.
Of course, you could just wait for the LG C2 which likely will be out early 2022. Or if you really do wait a year the LG C3 will be around the corner
Are you getting paid by LG to mock people and advertise products in threads about Sony TVs?
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MikeM
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I just don't want to spend the money especially considering my plasma Panasonic VT50 panel above the fireplace still looks great and runs great for 1080p content. I'll get an OLED later- they aren't going anywhere."buy a x900h/xh90" they said. "it'll be good" they said. "don't buy an LG CX/1 cause they suck" they said.
i know you say in a year or so but right now if you (or anyone else reading) can find a CX there's nothing wrong with picking one of them over a C1 if you can get a good price.
The C1 is a great TV but there is very little difference. mostly cosmetic/UI. i have both TV's and there are a few differences:
1. the C1 uses a newer OS version which is webOS 6.0. the CX uses webOS 5.0 which i much prefer. 6.0 isn't bad but has more ads and you need to make an LG account to download some apps. on webOS 5.0 making an account is optional you can download any app. for example, i have Spotify on my CX with no account but to download it on my C1 i need to make an account. some apps you don't need an account but that could be just the preinstalled ones. on webOS 5.0 when you press the home button only a row of apps appear at the bottom of the screen. when you do this on webOS 6.0 the app screen (and adverts) take up the entire screen.
2. the remote is different. the CX has a thicker/curved design and the C1 has a slim/boxy design.
3. the back of the TV panel has a different finish but you don't buy a TV to stare at the back of it.
4. obviously the C1 will get software updates for longer - not really an issue i'd think. the CX fully supports both PS5/XSX consoles. the CX can do 4K 120Hz Dolby Vision...which is overkill for these consoles. a CX will see you through this entire generation so i wouldn't worry about features not being supported. it has 20-120Hz VRR support and even LFC (low frame rate compensation) for <20FPS.
Of course, you could just wait for the LG C2 which likely will be out early 2022. Or if you really do wait a year the LG C3 will be around the corner
As for the X900h- its not a bad TV. I actually quite like it. Its too bad its handicapped by the chip inside of it because the overall picture quality for gaming is quite good. Running the 4k 120fps modes on Xbox and PS5 doesn't give me any noticable blur and is far sharper than the 120fps 1080p mode I was running previous to the update.
nightmare-slain
Member
just replying to someone who said they were replacing the TV and were gonna get OLED.
but yeah sure i MUST be getting paid by LG. i wish i was...but sadly not.
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Physiognomonics
Member
So Sony maybe delayed VRR on PS5 because of those models of TVs. After one year they got this shitty half-working HDMI 2.1 (half resolution 120hz mode, >48hz VRR, local dimming not working with VRR) and they got people saying they won't ever buy another TV by Sony.
They never should have promised HDMI 2.1 on those models. For this they deserve a big fat class action lawsuit for the TVs owners and the PS5 owners that still are waiting.
Now the question is, what kind of VRR we'll get on PS5? What kind of compromises are we going to get?
They never should have promised HDMI 2.1 on those models. For this they deserve a big fat class action lawsuit for the TVs owners and the PS5 owners that still are waiting.
Now the question is, what kind of VRR we'll get on PS5? What kind of compromises are we going to get?
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Putonahappyface
Member
Arioco
Member
Sony starts rolling out HDMI 2.1 VRR, ALLM update for X900H / XH90 – updated
Here are download links for Europe, North America & other regions
www.flatpanelshd.com
At least that's what Vincent says. I wonder it this may affect the update for PS5.
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SEGAvangelist
Gold Member
This is so bad. I really dodged a bullet.
Esppiral
Member
Yup as I said VRR is blurry as fuck
Reizo Ryuu
Gold Member
yeah this is terrible, unless the second update is much better, it's completely useless.
Mister Wolf
Member
They(Sony) tricked you into buying a Sony TV. I would be pissed.
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Andodalf
Banned
In those threads we tried to tell people. The second they pulled the fake 4k 120 thing it was clear that those TVs needed to be avoided for anything less than 1/4 price
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Sounds really bad. At least a patch is coming later in the year. In the current state, it's basically not usable.
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