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Digital Foundry impressions on Forza Horizon 5

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
With statements like this I'm always wondering how people are watching this. It already looks amazing on my PC monitors, but up on my LG CX!? It's fucking stunning and that's still youtube. The 30fps mode looks incredible and it runs at native 4K. Why wouldn't they be praising it? The motion blur quality in use makes the game look really good in motion even at 30fps and the density of the environments, the lighting, the effects like volumetrics, the cars, it all looks nuts. It also has a 60fps Native 4K mode also, which also looks incredible.
Maybe because I played fh4 on my lg c1 and 3080 at 4k 120... I got used to how it looks and last time I even noticed how old it is starting to look.
5 just looks more refined
 
Got it preloaded a couple days ago.

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bender

What time is it?
Need to know more about load times.

Maybe because I played fh4 on my lg c1 and 3080 at 4k 120... I got used to how it looks and last time I even noticed how old it is starting to look.
5 just looks more refined

I'm mostly with you. I think FH5 looks great and that's what we have come to expect from Playground Games but it seems more like an evolution than a revolution. Then again, I still think the patched version of the original FH looks great.
 

Gobjuduck

Banned
Need to know more about load times.



I'm mostly with you. I think FH5 looks great and that's what we have come to expect from Playground Games but it seems more like an evolution than a revolution. Then again, I still think the patched version of the original FH looks great.
I forgot what preview I watched, but the person who played said it was very noticeable how fast the game loaded, and that it didn't waste time on showboats and transition screens.
 

elliot5

Member
Need to know more about load times.



I'm mostly with you. I think FH5 looks great and that's what we have come to expect from Playground Games but it seems more like an evolution than a revolution. Then again, I still think the patched version of the original FH looks great.
Likely the same if not a moderate improvement upon how FH4 loads. Aka initial load screen and then transitions to races takes about two seconds or whtever
 

bender

What time is it?
I forgot what preview I watched, but the person who played said it was very noticeable how fast the game loaded, and that it didn't waste time on showboats and transition screens.

That's a relief. It's amazing how quickly I've gotten spoiled by load times on PS5. Booting Animal Crossing gets me so impatient.
 
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Turk1993

GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
Maybe because I played fh4 on my lg c1 and 3080 at 4k 120... I got used to how it looks and last time I even noticed how old it is starting to look.
5 just looks more refined
I also play on the same screen and on a 3080 ti and i have over 200h on FH4 and i can clearly see how much they improved it over 4. And 4 was the best looking racing game of last gen thats stil easily in the top 10 best looking games in general.
I mean look at those, how is this not impressive

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And don't forget what we have seen till now was all on console, the pc version will push things even further.
 
Maybe because I played fh4 on my lg c1 and 3080 at 4k 120... I got used to how it looks and last time I even noticed how old it is starting to look.
5 just looks more refined

Give us a screenshot like this showing you're logged into your gaf account and actually have a 3080. A lot of people always say this, and 90% of the time they don't actually have such a GPU. As you can see I have a Ryzen 7 3800X, 64GB of RAM with an RX 580.



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edit: Forza Horizon 5 is a clear and obvious leap over Forza Horizon 4. To claim it's merely a refinement can't be taken seriously. The environmental complexity from a texture, geometry standpoint and lighting alone are on a different level.
 
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Dream-Knife

Banned
Game looks great. Idk if I'll buy it at launch as I'll be busy with SMT 5, but that looks amazing. That being said, I can see how some people say it looks the same if you don't really pay attention. Overall fidelity is the same, but the amount of detail is greatly increased.

I just hope there's plenty of dirt racing. Not really crazy on the street racing in 4.

I also hope my 05 WRX is in it.
 
Did they suggest the game is a better experience at 30fps than 60 or am I crazy?
I think they said the 30fps felt good, considering it's 30fps. Richard even went ahead and called it "filmic". I'm almost certain they said this to adhere to preview press guidelines set by MS. Or maybe the 30fps mode is that good (unlikely).
 
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Did they suggest the game is a better experience at 30fps than 60 or am I crazy?

Based on what I've been seeing I really just might play this game at 30fps with how good it looks. I guess it will come down to how much better the game feels at 60fps, but according to what DF said about the 30fps mode, it appears like it might feel/look smoother than what it actually is due to the quality of the motion blur.
 

Swift_Star

Banned
"next gen graphic" began with Demons Souls back in 2020.

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Also, reading the article, I find it hilarious that they mention how good the "30 fps" implementation is....
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If this were a PS game... 30 fps in gran turismo... I have a feeling these guys would be saying very different stuff.

Imagine having next gen hardward and excuse a racer with 30 FPS WTF!!
I can't believe DF is praising 30fps. I think one of the fps snowflakes of DF scolded me for thinking spider man was smooth despite being 30fps.
 

Topher

Gold Member
Give us a screenshot like this showing you're logged into your gaf account and actually have a 3080. A lot of people always say this, and 90% of the time they don't actually have such a GPU. As you can see I have a Ryzen 7 3800X, 64GB of RAM with an RX 580.



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edit: Forza Horizon 5 is a clear and obvious leap over Forza Horizon 4. To claim it's merely a refinement can't be taken seriously. The environmental complexity from a texture, geometry standpoint and lighting alone are on a different level.

rofif rofif has posted pictures of his rig several times in the "show us your gaming setup" threads. No idea why you think he needs to prove anything. He isn't some Neo member with no background here.
 
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ZehDon

Gold Member
Looks simply incredible. So much detail of such high quality that obviously took so much effort... just to soar past it at 200kph. There's something about that that makes me chuckle. Can't wait to get my hands on it!
 

bender

What time is it?
rofif rofif has posted pictures of his rig several times in the "show us your gaming setup" threads. No idea why you think he needs to prove anything. He isn't some Neo member with no background here.

To be fair, he could have grabbed those images from the net. I think he needs to post pictures of his rig again but this time with his bare ass exposed, "bender" written on his left cheek, not right, in red sharpie, not black, not blue, and certainly not purple. Since I'm a feeling reasonable, he can select the tip size of the sharpie.

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rofif rofif has posted pictures of his rig several times in the "show us your gaming setup" threads. No idea why you think he needs to prove anything. He isn't some Neo member with no background here.

But rofif rofif , if you do, could you please include this picture in your screenshot:

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Ehh, you may not understand what I'm getting at exactly. People can always show pictures of a nice computer setup. Looks cool, but there's a level of detachment in proving that it is truly actually your own. This is a little experiment I run from time to time, and it's never been passed by anyone even once. Not on social media, not on a games forum. A full screen snapshot of you actually signed into your recognizable forum or social media account with a device manager window open. Simple enough I would think.

Here's one featuring me responding to you in real-time showing my computer info, middle finger pic and all. You even see the post reply button for GAF below. When I see the boast I'm always curious, and not one person has ever passed is all I'm saying. There usually ends up being a reason why they can never do it. Nobody expects it right away, but a week? 2 weeks? a month? It never comes. I'd like to see it just once.

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Topher

Gold Member
Ehh, you may not understand what I'm getting at exactly. People can always show pictures of a nice computer setup. Looks cool, but there's a level of detachment in proving that it is truly actually your own. This is a little experiment I run from time to time, and it's never been passed by anyone even once. Not on social media, not on a games forum. A full screen snapshot of you actually signed into your recognizable forum or social media account with a device manager window open. Simple enough I would think.

Here's one featuring me responding to you in real-time showing my computer info, middle finger pic and all. You even see the post reply button for GAF below. When I see the boast I'm always curious, and not one person has ever passed is all I'm saying. There usually ends up being a reason why they can never do it. Nobody expects it right away, but a week? 2 weeks? a month? It never comes. I'd like to see it just once.

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The middle finger was a joke and I edited it out because I had doubts that some would think it was funny, but you captured it anyway so......well there it is.

But no, I know exactly what you are getting at. The things is no one is beholden to show you anything. Why in the world you think anyone would actually do that for some internet nobody is beyond me. And I say that as an internet nobody myself. So your experiment was a failure from the get-go because you are effectively calling others liars and expecting them to prove they are not. Yeah....good luck with that.

BTW, what is with the RX 580? I thought you said you were rich as hell? Time to post your pay stubs. Little experiment I run from time to time.....
 
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So what is the actual resolution of the performance mode? Even a first party MS studio can't help but lie about this. When people found out there was a 4k/30 quality mode they started asking what the performance mode will be. To which the developer tweeted "also 4k/60". Obviously, it was going to be some form of dynamic res, so why not be truthful and upfront about exactly what res it will be?

Based on watching preview comparisons I'm seeing a big difference in felicity between quality and performance. I was hoping that wouldn't be the case and that the performance mode would have the same settings. The res looks like 1440p now ...am I right?
 
Just finished the video. Game looks incredible but that's not that surprising.

Looking at the quality and performance modes side by side I can't help to feel like the performance mode looks..... better?
It looks worse dude it's literally got lower settings than quality and resolution might be lower too. Your mistaking fluidity for graphics.
 

hlm666

Member
So what is the actual resolution of the performance mode? Even a first party MS studio can't help but lie about this. When people found out there was a 4k/30 quality mode they started asking what the performance mode will be. To which the developer tweeted "also 4k/60". Obviously, it was going to be some form of dynamic res, so why not be truthful and upfront about exactly what res it will be?

Based on watching preview comparisons I'm seeing a big difference in felicity between quality and performance. I was hoping that wouldn't be the case and that the performance mode would have the same settings. The res looks like 1440p now ...am I right?
It's supposed to be 4k they drop draw distance and object density/detail to get the increase in framerate, some effects maybe running at a lower res even in quality mode. Have to take Microsofts word until someone pixel counts it at release I guess.
 

bender

What time is it?
BTW, what is with the RX 580? I thought you said you were rich as hell? Time to post your pay stubs. Little experiment I run from time to time.....

You can fake a paystub pretty easily. I'd recommend asking him to apply a glue stick to the right cheek of his bare ass so he can easily affix his W-2. And so that we know it is his ass and his W-2, he'll need to apply a little of that glue to his left cheek to affix his social security card too. Now when he write "bender" on the unoccupied space on his left check, we can't use a red sharpie since that will clash with the blue from his social security card. Blue isn't going to work either as it isn't the right pigment. We are going to have to settle for plain old black. It's a sacrifice on our part, but it is for the greater good.
 

Topher

Gold Member
You can fake a paystub pretty easily. I'd recommend asking him to apply a glue stick to the right cheek of his bare ass so he can easily affix his W-2. And so that we know it is his ass and his W-2, he'll need to apply a little of that glue to his left cheek to affix his social security card too. Now when he write "bender" on the unoccupied space on his left check, we can't use a red sharpie since that will clash with the blue from his social security card. Blue isn't going to work either as it isn't the right pigment. We are going to have to settle for plain old black. It's a sacrifice on our part, but it is for the greater good.

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The middle finger was a joke and I edited it out because I had doubts that some would think it was funny, but you captured it anyway so......well there it is.

But no, I know exactly what your are getting at. The things is no one is beholden to show you anything. Why in the world you think anyone would actually do that for some internet nobody is beyond me. And I say that as an internet nobody myself. So your experiment was a failure from the get-go because you are effectively calling others liars and expecting them to prove they are not. Yeah....good luck with that.

BTW, what is with the RX 580? I thought you said you were rich as hell? Time to post your pay stubs. Little experiment I run from time to time.....

Yea, I make very good money actually, but that doesn't make me any more likely to find the graphics card I want for my rig with the chip shortages. And just because I make good money doesn't mean I want to be ripped off by paying way more than market value for an item I can likely pick up later for the proper price, or better yet, me waiting to not get ripped off could end up with me getting an even newer RTX 4000 series chip or the next AMD series GPUs. I purposely bought cheap for the RX 580 for strategic reasons because when I built my PC last year I wanted the cheapest and most acceptable placeholder until I saw what the next AMD and Nvidia cards were like. I pretty much spent on what I felt I needed on pretty much all else. If you see the timing of most of these purchases below it didn't make much sense buying an RTX 2000 series at that point.

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If you locate for me a fairly priced RTX 3080 or RTX 3090 anytime soon, link me immediately, and I'll buy it and show you that pay stub too. :messenger_winking:
 

bender

What time is it?
Yea, I make very good money actually, but that doesn't make me any more likely to find the graphics card I want for my rig with the chip shortages. And just because I make good money doesn't mean I want to be ripped off by paying way more than market value for an item I can likely pick up later for the proper price, or better yet, me waiting to not get ripped off could end up with me getting an even newer RTX 4000 series chip or the next AMD series GPUs. I purposely bought cheap for the RX 580 for strategic reasons because when I built my PC last year I wanted the cheapest and most acceptable placeholder until I saw what the next AMD and Nvidia cards were like. I pretty much spent on what I felt I needed on pretty much all else. If you see the timing of most of these purchases below it didn't make much sense buying an RTX 2000 series at that point.

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If you locate for me a fairly priced RTX 3080 or RTX 3090 anytime soon, link me immediately, and I'll buy it and show you that pay stub too. :messenger_winking:
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You can fake a paystub pretty easily. I'd recommend asking him to apply a glue stick to the right cheek of his bare ass so he can easily affix his W-2. And so that we know it is his ass and his W-2, he'll need to apply a little of that glue to his left cheek to affix his social security card too. Now when he write "bender" on the unoccupied space on his left check, we can't use a red sharpie since that will clash with the blue from his social security card. Blue isn't going to work either as it isn't the right pigment. We are going to have to settle for plain old black. It's a sacrifice on our part, but it is for the greater good.

Shit.. I don't have a sharpie..

Can you guys fucking imagine if you woke up tomorrow morning, and I actually did this shit? The permanent ban would make me legendary. :messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy::messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

Topher

Gold Member
Yea, I make very good money actually, but

Experiment failed, bender bender . No, W-2. No buttcheeks. In fact, the only "butt" we got was the "but" before the excuses started rolling for his hobo PC.

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If you locate for me a fairly priced RTX 3080 or RTX 3090 anytime soon, link me immediately, and I'll buy it and show you that pay stub too. :messenger_winking:

Got one. You can write out the check to......wait....what?

My photoshop skills are world renowned. I can produce a fake check for over $100,000, and you can actually go cash it at a real bank.

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MaulerX

Member
It looks worse dude it's literally got lower settings than quality and resolution might be lower too. Your mistaking fluidity for graphics.


Resolution is exactly the same for both quality and performance modes.

And frame rates are actually a big part of graphics. Nobody plays still images. But yes performance mode does have a few things scaled back (like a few blades of grass and what not).

We just have to give the wizards at Playground alot of credit. The framerate of both modes is locked in and people can choose whatever suits them. 😁
 
Experiment failed, bender bender . No, W-2. No buttcheeks. In fact, the only "butt" we got was the "but" before the excuses started rolling for his hobo PC.

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Got one. You can write out the check to......wait....what?



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All seriousness, if you actually do find one properly priced 3080 or 3090, notify, dm me, whatever. I actually thought at times about just buying a gaming laptop with one already inside of it, killing two birds with one stone since I been looking to upgrade from my current laptop also, but that doesn't exactly solve the issue of me wanting a proper gpu upgrade for my main PC.
 
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