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[DeepEnigma]

Is Lost Legacy better than UC4? That game legitimately put me to sleep.

LL is more in line with 2 and 3 with the set pieces and not overly long adventure than it is UC4. A little more light hearted, with a bittersweet moment. I enjoyed it, even if Nadine felt like a throwaway seemingly only there for "girl power" moments and to belittle Sam with Chloe, while still needing his masculinity in certain parts tho for them to advance.

Come to think of it, maybe it was purposefully written that way. Irony.

 

[HYDE]

Remaster Golden Abyss already!

Eeew, but why? Shitty Bend game…Oh wait all their games are shit.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

What a load of BS, they "patched" the frame limiter out of the game.

 

[Javthusiast]

Also, they apparently delisted the standalone versions and you can only buy them in a pricier bundle?

 

[Dane]

Yeah but according to people in this thread this is an insult.

Basically paying $10 you get to upgrade a game and get another game for free, just as long as you own one copy of either Lost Legacy or Uncharted 4.

More like an insult if you own both.

 

[Jim Ryan other Clone]

they can't even hit 4k60 smh

So you think devs should do extra work for free years later after their game was completed?

Ofcourse, don't you know if you order a food from restaurant and 5 years later they decide to update their catalog you are entitled to try it for free? Or if you buy a ticket to the amusement park and wheb they make a renovation 10 years later you get free ticket to see the new attractions? Only gamers think that a company releasing a product with whatever upgrades they are entitled to get it free.

 

[Poppyseed]

I’m only seeing $49.99, despite owning Uncharted collection/LL bundle digitally. How do you get it to be $9.99?

 

[omegasc]

I’m only seeing $49.99, despite owning Uncharted collection/LL bundle digitally. How do you get it to be $9.99?

offer will be up on launch day

 

[Dust-by-Monday]

Ofcourse, don't you know if you order a food from restaurant and 5 years later they decide to update their catalog you are entitled to try it for free? Or if you buy a ticket to the amusement park and wheb they make a renovation 10 years later you get free ticket to see the new attractions? Only gamers think that a company releasing a product with whatever upgrades they are entitled to get it free.

Or a movie you own on DVD comes out on Blu-ray, you should be able to get the Blu-ray for free right? Then when it comes out on Ultra HD Blu-ray, you should get that for free as well

 

[jshackles]

So you think devs should do extra work for free years later after their game was completed?

Yes.

Their development costs on this will easily be absorbed by the fact that these two games will survive yet another console generation and tons of people who didn't buy them previously will now have the opportunity to buy them for full price.

 

[rofif]

10$ upgrade sounds ok for me.
No way I am going back to 1080p. Not playing on 48" lg tv right in my face at my desk. It's blurry crap
It's an atmospheric single player game with amazing graphics and fantastic motion blur so I am probably going to go for 4k 30fps.

But why there is no 40fps or 60fps 4k checkerboard modes is crazy... straight 1440p 60fps is a joke. Should at least have checkerboard.

I will pick up the ps5 upgrade. I do have 3080 but on ps5 probably hdr will work better, 3d audio on pulse 3d and dualsense stuff

 

[Hunnybun]

10.23 / 1.84 = 5.55x.

The IPC gains are around 50% from GCN 1.0 to Polaris to RDNA. So yes, you are looking at 15 tflops which is 8x but we have simply not seen those IPC gains materialize in games so far. I am guessing the memory bandwidth limitations are a factor or perhaps 4k 60 fps simply requires more horsepower than just a 1:1 increase in tflops or raw GPU horsepower. Someone posted a graph a few weeks ago that showed how going from 1080p 60 fps to 4k 60 fps requires more than 4x GPU raw power.

Oh you're definitely right that 1080/30 to 4k/60 hasn't materialised. It's a bit of a mystery I guess.

 

[dotnotbot]

But why there is no 40fps or 60fps 4k checkerboard modes is crazy... straight 1440p 60fps is a joke. Should at least have checkerboard.

Similar to U4 on PS4 Pro which also didn't offer CB and had a bit blurry upscalling instead. Maybe CB doesn't play well with their engine or something.

 

[Jim Ryan other Clone]

Or a movie you own on DVD comes out on Blu-ray, you should be able to get the Blu-ray for free right? Then when it comes out on Ultra HD Blu-ray, you should get that for free as well

Yes, you supported then once half a decade ago with your money. That is enough for them, it's anti consumer and unethical to monetize a product worth months of work.
Fuck them, Fuck them, how dare they.

 

[Skifi28]

Or a movie you own on DVD comes out on Blu-ray, you should be able to get the Blu-ray for free right? Then when it comes out on Ultra HD Blu-ray, you should get that for free as well

You should also say that when you own a car and a new model comes out, you don't get it for free, complete the cringe.

 

[Hunnybun]

10$ upgrade sounds ok for me.
No way I am going back to 1080p. Not playing on 48" lg tv right in my face at my desk. It's blurry crap
It's an atmospheric single player game with amazing graphics and fantastic motion blur so I am probably going to go for 4k 30fps.

But why there is no 40fps or 60fps 4k checkerboard modes is crazy... straight 1440p 60fps is a joke. Should at least have checkerboard.

I will pick up the ps5 upgrade. I do have 3080 but on ps5 probably hdr will work better, 3d audio on pulse 3d and dualsense stuff

I'm guessing the crappy textures will make the game look like a blurry mess even in 4k.

 

[rofif]

I'm guessing the crappy textures will make the game look like a blurry mess even in 4k.

I replayed it on ps5 last march when I got my new tv.
It looks better than any new games... but 1440p is pretty blurry. I was fine with 30fps though surprisingly.

 

[purpletentacle]

You should also say that when you own a car and a new model comes out, you don't get it for free, complete the cringe.

even iTunes upgrades purchased HD movies to 4K for free.

iTunes! Apple!

 

[Markio128]

I’ll most likely be jumping in for another play-through - great games, both of them. I haven’t played either for ages.

 

[DeepEnigma]

even iTunes upgrades purchased HD movies to "4K" for free.

iTunes! Apple!

FTFY

Because you're only streaming at a bitrate less than that of a dual density 1080p BR.

 

[Orta]

Have the PS3 and PS4 trilogy. Plus part 4 and its add-on.

Played none of them.

Very much looking forward to buying it again on PC and not playing it on that either

 

[T0minator]

What other games were charged for a frame rate boost?

The Last of Us 2
Horizon Zero Dawn
Ghost of Tsushima
God of War
Infamous second son
Until Dawn
Killzone Shadow Fall
Days Gone
Ratchet and clank
Gran Turismo Sport
Knack 2

All free upgrades. Not sure why this one isn't free

 

[Investor9872]

My only doubt is that I have U4 physical and Lost Odyssey digital, hopefully there won't be issues to upgrade.

To add another wrench in the puzzle is what if you also had added the free Plus U4 game before to that physical copy of yours as well. Hopefully, Sony will be able to sort all of that out. But I have my doubts that the upgrade will be $10 for both. It's more likely that it's $10 each since they will only be able to detect your physical or digital copies one at a time when you booth the game up.

 

[onQ123]

What other games were charged for a frame rate boost?

The Last of Us 2
Horizon Zero Dawn
Ghost of Tsushima
God of War
Infamous second son
Until Dawn
Killzone Shadow Fall
Days Gone
Ratchet and clank
Gran Turismo Sport
Knack 2

All free upgrades. Not sure why this one isn't free

Its a Remaster with 3D Audio & added controller features.

 

[Elios83]

What other games were charged for a frame rate boost?

The Last of Us 2
Horizon Zero Dawn
Ghost of Tsushima
God of War
Infamous second son
Until Dawn
Killzone Shadow Fall
Days Gone
Ratchet and clank
Gran Turismo Sport
Knack 2

All free upgrades. Not sure why this one isn't free

It's not a frame rate boost.
It's like Ghost of Tsushima (3D audio, Dualsense, SSD fast loadings, different graphical modes).

 

[T0minator]

Its a Remaster with 3D Audio & added controller features.

Just curious what the remaster portion means. Is it remastered like Spiderman was? Then I'll understand. DualSense support is nice though

 

[yewles1]

Remaster Golden Abyss already!

Ask Sony Bend for that.

 

[Elios83]

To add another wrench in the puzzle is what if you also had added the free Plus U4 game before to that physical copy of yours as well. Hopefully, Sony will be able to sort all of that out. But I have my doubts that the upgrade will be $10 for both. It's more likely that it's $10 each since they will only be able to detect your physical or digital copies one at a time when you booth the game up.

Seems like it's sufficient to have bought a single game to get the upgrade.

 

[graywolf323]

So going the Nintendo route of rereleasing everything and charging for it.

Can't say I'm a fan.

if Nintendo let me upgrade for only $10 I'd have a lot less complaints about their approach

instead they charge $60 for a port of a game that previously cost $50 and at best will see a sale on the Switch version down to ~$40

 

[SlimySnake]

Also, they apparently delisted the standalone versions and you can only buy them in a pricier bundle?

They did the same thing with Ghost of Tsushima. Cant buy the non-directors cut of the game so no cheap option. Must pay the full $70.

 

[FingerBang]

I don't get the complaint. The 10$ fee for upgrading an OLD game is fair if the alternative is not to get anything.

...now about that 10$ 4K/60fps Bloodborne remaster...

 

[Hunnybun]

I replayed it on ps5 last march when I got my new tv.
It looks better than any new games... but 1440p is pretty blurry. I was fine with 30fps though surprisingly.

I wish it still looked good to me dude.

 

[mckmas8808]

I'm getting really sick of PlayStation trying to nickel and dime people for this kind of shit.

Then sell your PS5!

 

[rofif]

I wish it still looked good to me dude.

I got some screenshots from ps5 replay this year. HDR cnverted to sdr so not showing full glory.
Imo looks amazing still.

 

[Skifi28]

I got some screenshots from ps5 replay this year. HDR cnverted to sdr so not showing full glory.
Imo looks amazing still.

To this day, it's one of the most impressive games regardless of platform. Some of the comments in here about the visuals make no sense.

 

[jshackles]

Then sell your PS5!

I'm literally about to throw my PS5 in the garbage.

Because it broke (won't boot) and it's out of warranty already. And also I barely played it. And I couldn't even find a replacement if I wanted one.

 

[Mabdia]

Remaster Golden Abyss already!

Amazing game. The only problem with it is that the touch, camera and movement gimmicks makes it sucks sometimes.

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This collection is just U4 and ULL?

 

[FranXico]

It's not a frame rate boost.
It's like Ghost of Tsushima (3D audio, Dualsense, SSD fast loadings, different graphical modes).

Ghost of Tsushima had both a free framerate unlock patch and a paid upgrade.

 

[rofif]

To this day, it's one of the most impressive games regardless of platform. Some of the comments in here about the visuals make no sense.

There is no way to show how it looks in hdr in action. This is all I have but the screenshot is from my old phone and compresssed. It's mind blowing! 2015 !!!!

 

[kanjobazooie]

I know they won't do it, but I really hope they split the two games for the PC release.
It would be nice if I can just get TLL for a discounted price since I already played UC4.

 

[skit_data]

Nice, I own them both but I’ve been waiting for the inevitable PS5 upgrade to play them. $10 is okay for 2 games.

 

[saintjules]

For 10$ it's a good deal to upgrade two games to me. People thought they were going to sell this full price

Yeah, I found it strange people thought it was gonna be $70. These are old titles.

 

[nikolino840]

They have delisted the base game?

 

[KAL2006]

Last Guardian
Shadow of Collosus
Dreams
Gravity Rush 2
Bloodborne
The Order

Not many first party PS4 games left that require patches or upgrades. Gravity Rush 2 will probably get ignored as it's too niche, same with The Order. Bloodborne will no doubt get a remaster at some point. Dreams I think will get a remaster when PS VR2 comes out. Unpatched version of Last Guardian already exists 5hats 60fps they just need to unlock frame rate like God of War. Shadow of Collosus has a performance mode and a quality mode they just need to combine those into one. I think if a ICO remaster or remake ever gets announced they will path those games for marketing purposes.

 

[StealthGoblin]

I’m getting sick of not offering free updates for games you already own. They’ve had their cash.

 

[saintjules]

.

 

[Concern]

Should be a free upgrade. Not paying $10 for a res boost and cutting mp.

Should be happy with pc sales since that will open up a whole new fanbase. No need to nickel and dime loyal fans.

 

[Concern]

Edit: double post

 

[Jim Ryan other Clone]

You should also say that when you own a car and a new model comes out, you don't get it for free, complete the cringe.

What new model, you can buy a brand new car and couple months later they can make a revision in the cabin, but you don't get nothing. It's a new product, but real word example don't work here because the games are some strange thing that if you buy once you are entitled to any new rerelease of the product.

 

[AnotherOne]

I never played uncharted 4 am I in for a treat on ps5 come January?