JimRyanGOAT
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If only Valve wasnt fuck lazy and actually made sequels to their most beloved series
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Crowbat: Back 4 Blood proves Valve carried Left 4 Dead.
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Great Hair
Banned
winjer
Gold Member
It's like they put more effort into a scheme for micro-transactions, than they did in making a good game.
Fake
Member
This.
L4D still top any others clone around. Such an amazing game. Wish they did remaster last gen because playing CO-OP on Xbox 360 even Xbox 360 being a weak machine was so fucking fun.
StateofMajora
Banned
To this day I still play l4d and l4d2 split screen on xbox 360. The first one has a better balance and I like it more but #2 has the melee weapons which feel great to use.
I’d love it MS did a game boost update to make it 60fps on series condoles.
AlteredForms
Banned
I'm confused about the video title. Turtle Rock Studios laid the foundation in the first game and Valve built upon it in the second. How did Valve "carry" the franchise exactly?
Gamezone
Gold Member
Valve made good zombie games, Turtle Rock didn't. Turtle Rock made it seem like they were the creators of the good games, when most of the L4D team is still at Valve.
Werewolf Jones
Gold Member
You can mod the L4D infected to be Fall Guys? Bro how can B4B even compete.
Hari Seldon
Member
B4B isn’t the worst game. But it has the absolutely fatal flaw of being a co-op shooter that requires thinking. I don’t want to fuck around with nerdy card shit when I’m 4+ beers deep on discord with my bro’s. I want to be shooting zombies and giggling like a fool at all of the retarded mods that I have installed like Homer Simpson Chainsaw, Whichney Houston, Surprise Motherfucker pipebombs, etc etc. L4D2 is the most perfect beer and bro game ever made.
AlteredForms
Banned
I'm still confused by your post though man. Turtle Rock Studios made Left 4 Dead before Valve bought them. As for Back 4 Blood, it's understandably dogshit but was anybody surprised?
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Fake
Member
Can you believe L4D/L4D2 runs splitscreen on Xbox 360 with 10 MB eDRAM, and B4B not only can't be played splitscreen on next gen consoles, but require constant internet connection?
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Hollowpoint5557
A Fucking Idiot
Absolutely bloody fantastic video that sums everything up just perfect. I played 4 mins of B4B and noped out as I could tell immediately it was janky and missing all the special sauce that made L4D what it was.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
Kinda forgot how cool L4D was.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
I suspect the fact that Back 4 Blood looks like a cheap knock off when put side by side is the reason Turtle Rock got bought by Tencent.
Cockles & Whelks
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Gonpachiro Kamaboko
Member
Crowbcat videos be hittin
mortal
Gold Member
Rusty Shackelford
Member
Are L4D 1&2 still playable online on Xbox Live?
chilleverest
Member
What headset if you dont mind me asking ? Been looking to buy one for my series x as well so want to gather some experience.
StateofMajora
Banned
Yes and also we went from 4 player split on goldeneye 64 to 0 splitscreen on a lot of games xD
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
It's rare to have people actually acknowledge and appreciate in-depth design like this nowadays (just look at all the trollers trashing BOTW likening it to Ubicrap or dissing From Software in favor of Bluepoint over a PS3 game's 1:1 remake). Great video, even if it may come across as a little mean.
Still Turtle Rock made a pretty good game in Journey of the Gods, maybe the excitement of the VR medium or the financial security of a project funded by Oculus made them experiment and work things out in better ways. It's still a small scale project fully linear with some padding but very nice.
I do wish they made a bigger better more epic less padded/flawed sequel to that game instead, oh well.
Still Turtle Rock made a pretty good game in Journey of the Gods, maybe the excitement of the VR medium or the financial security of a project funded by Oculus made them experiment and work things out in better ways. It's still a small scale project fully linear with some padding but very nice.
I do wish they made a bigger better more epic less padded/flawed sequel to that game instead, oh well.
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newtypepilot
Member
lol at the end changing the steam page description.
For real though, Evolve proved that Turtle Rock are quite incompetent. Hey, let's make a glorified cat and mouse game where you spend most of the match just running around in circles in a large map.
For real though, Evolve proved that Turtle Rock are quite incompetent. Hey, let's make a glorified cat and mouse game where you spend most of the match just running around in circles in a large map.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Most of the people who laid the foundation went on to work at Valve and the studios is still updating the games.
while the Turtle Rock Studios now comprises of only selected individuals who worked on L4D games, but a larger part are new hires who previously worked on Evolve.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
i'd like to take a moment to thank phil gamepass for getting this locked up day 1 because my dumb ass would've bought this otherwise
Umbasaborne
Banned
Me crowbcat old good, new bad!!! Sensationalist bullshit. B4b is a a great game.
TheDarkPhantom
Member
Recently bought B4B on sale and I've been having a blast playing solo, cleared both Recruit and Vet difficulties. Throughout though I kept feeling like something was missing, simple stuff like dismemberment which is in literally every zombie game I've ever played as just one example. I've never played L4D, just finished watching this vid and wow, give me a remaster collection of these games *now* 
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Recently bought B4B on sale and I've been having a blast playing solo, cleared both Recruit and Vet difficulties. Throughout though I kept feeling like something was missing, simple stuff like dismemberment which is in literally every zombie game I've ever played as just one example. I've never played L4D, just finished watching this vid and wow, give me a remaster collection of these games *now*
here's the remastered collection for $3. you can play all the l4d content in l4d2.
Left 4 Dead Bundle on Steam
wayyy more players than b4b too.
TheDarkPhantom
Member
Thanks, I don't do PC gaming, hardcore console gamer since the Atari 2600. And before you mention Xbox zero interest in that ecosystem, appreciate it anywayhere's the remastered collection for $3. you can play all the l4d content in l4d2.
Left 4 Dead Bundle on Steam
store.steampowered.com
wayyy more players than b4b too.
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BaneIsPain
Member
I never knew how bad back 4 blood. It means every cent I spend on L4D is worth it.
Jeeves
Member
I only played the
Even though they ported all the L4D1 levels into L4D2 -- which I do appreciate -- I still just prefer to play the actual L4D1, at the end of the day.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I only watched the last part with the credits. Wow. I didn't follow this game to know they kept plugging Valve as the key PR point to sell this game. Talk about misleading gamers. But that's video game companies for ya.
It's like EA promoting Bioware an an RPG behemoth, yet going by what people say all the key employees and founders left the company probably 10 years ago or more.
It's like EA promoting Bioware an an RPG behemoth, yet going by what people say all the key employees and founders left the company probably 10 years ago or more.
SlimeGooGoo
Party Gooper
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Dave_at_Home
Member
I had been searching for a while to find one perfect for my needs and ended up buying the SteelSeries Arctis 9X wireless headset. The thing is not cheap. Retails for $200. Traded in my PS4 so I paid nothing. Comfortable and great sound. Also doesn't look "gamery" so that's nice. It connects via the same wireless protocol as Xbox controllers. Has Bluetooth as well so you can answer phone calls while gaming. Retractable mic is nice touch too. Look into it.
Whatever headset you end up with, make sure to purchase the Dolby Atmos app. It automatically utilizes its game mode but I find if you change the sound profile to movie it's far better. Their game mode sounds a bit hollow while movie is much louder and more full. There's a free trial to play around with it so I definitely would if I were you. I ended up paying about $11 after the free trial.
I just farted lol
Bridges
Member
Yup, and they're backwards compatible on Xbox One and Series X|S too. Playerbase is is gone though.
Barakov
Gold Member
Crowbcat doesn't miss. Back 4 Blood is like the worst parts of the modern day gaming and the worst parts from the 360/PS3 era combined into one game. It's kinda amazing in that regard.
SkylineRKR
Member
This isn't made by the L4D creators. Its by Turtle Rock, which ironically is a shell of what they used to be. B4B was on GP, so I dodged a bullet. Didn't enjoy it much.
The Cockatrice
Gold Member
I enjoyed Back 4 Blood but holy shit I just forgot about those details in L4D. Goes to show how so the Source engine was SO much ahead of its time and kinda sad that Valve did not do more with it in gaming. L4D2, Half-Life2 are masterpieces.
Barakov
Gold Member
Ribi
Member
ok tell that to me just finishing a game of it on pc. me 1 you 0