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STOP begging for Easy Mode in Elden Ring!
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GermanZepp
Member
How about no.There is an easy mode.
Yeah a legendary sorcery requiring 60 INT points...
sigh... To take advantage of that and make it " EZ MODE" you need to read the guide where to find it. Watch a video to farm runes to that level up or respect..I'm 70 hours in and i didn't even get to that part of the map.
SCB3
Member
To be fair, the Input buffer sometimes is straight up broken, I've had many many examples of where a roll didn't work and then suddenly I'd roll, its rare though but does happenThe game is busted in 10 different ways in terms of difficulty. I couldn't care less if they add an easy mode, but it would be nice if they made a competently balanced action game. And if they don't, then they can listen to criticism about it.
You're in a huge bubble if you can't even tolerate dissenting opinion on Elden Ring. The gameplay portion is a giant regression from Sekiro. REEE is actually having more interesting discussions about the game, and less people seem to lose their minds at criticism. When REEE has better conversation, then you know something is off in how people here are acting.
After 150+ hours, I think that Elden Ring has the worst bosses of any Soulsborne
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The input buffer in Elden Ring is the worst I've ever experienced
Was looking at some FGC takes on ER and they really encapsulated my biggest problem with ER. Phew boy, the input buffer in this game is the worst in any game I've ever played. I'm really confused on how this made it past playtesting. The queue length for actions in this game is just absurd. You...
In all honesty my only real gripe on difficulty is Caelid being so early in the game, its very hostile with a lot of hard hitting enemies with massive HP pools, it feels like an end game area and with the main boss of that area almost confirming it, its almost like FS ripped it out of a later part of the game and placed it here.
BbMajor7th
Member
No shame in this. I tackled a couple on my first run through Stormveil, but soon got fed up and just ran past. I got my own back later, when I went back at about level fifty and stomped them into the dirt.
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Oddvintagechap
Member
It is easy, its just obtuse.
daveonezero
Banned
this is the point. You can make it as easy or challenging as you want.
I think balancing a game like this for PVE and PVP is a monumental task and it’s amazing that they have an even functioning system with the amount of variables they are working with.
lughnasadh123
Member
More games should have difficulty and accessibility options.
Ailynn
Faith - Hope - Love
Ghost of Caelid
Banned
It genuinely seems there more “stop asking for an easy mode” videos, post, discussions than people actually asking for that in elden ring
I collect VHS tapes
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I found ER boss fights more difficult than both Demon Souls and DS3 (which are the only 2 other souls games I’ve played)
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Esppiral
Member
This guy reminds me of Audi from Digital Foundry are they brothers or something?
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Swift_Star
Banned
I said this once before but I’m going to repeat myself. After finishing this game and starting a new file with a dex/int character and seeing how the game is extremely easy with this build… I feel the discussion about this game will severely change over time.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
Demons Souls....OBVIOUSLY! That game's boss fights were mostly gimmicky, once you know their fatal flaw they become piss easy even with melee build.
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
elden ring is probably the easiest from software game yet…
Swift_Star
Banned
Those games have bosses balanced around SP play through, this one is balanced around coop and spirits, it’s no surprise when you think about how much they emphasized this in the marketing of the game (along with sorcery)… the bosses are much harder here because they’re not meant to be fought solo. And even then, some of them are really BS.
I’m not trying to act all “git gud” as I in fact suck
But I just shredded the last half of Elden ring
From put a ton of accessibility features to
make the game “easy” if you are struggling - even after the latest patch
It’s just in typical From fashion - just like they didn’t make a “look go here and do these things” map markers - they don’t have a “easy switch”
Playing the game to discover these accessibility features is what is needed (or go online and look some of them up if you want)
Being always online - they probably can’t have an “easy” switch
Hari Seldon
Member
I eventually got past that part but at the cost of making me absolutely hate the game and therefore I will drop it. I'm about 15 hours in and I'm likely done. I had a full free day yesterday and couldn't bring myself to even turn it on. So whether you think it is perfectly balanced or not, for me the game design is bad enough that I regret my purchase.
dispensergoinup
Gold Member
I suck at Soulsbourne games and was able to beat it because I over-leveled and tried out sorcery and blood builds plus the Ash summons.
As the first response said, people can ask for easy mode all they want but the devs can also just ignore those requests. No harm done.
As the first response said, people can ask for easy mode all they want but the devs can also just ignore those requests. No harm done.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
I dont know I felt Demons Souls was easiest, even King Allant was such easy fight compare to Malenia.
Hestar69
Member
early game yes,late game good luck with that lolThere is an easy mode.
I collect VHS tapes
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I found the ER bosses more difficult than both DS3 and Demon Souls bosses even when using spirit ashes.
Spirit ashes are super helpful for some bosses, not really super helpful for others. And even when helpful, the boss fights are still more difficult IMO. Before I got mimic, the ashes really didn't do a TON. After mimic, they helped a lot, but even then some boss battles were very hard for me.
Melania would shred through my spirit summon, and even use my spirit summon to heal herself.
Draconic Tree Sentinel fucking destroyed my +10 Mimic summon pretty much instantly.
Radahn took me forever to beat, although I hear they made him much weaker after the patch.
Final boss can kill my +10 mimic before even hitting phase 2.
etc.
I've spent hours on some bosses in ER. With DS3 and Demon Souls, I beat most bosses in 2-3 attempts, with some being beaten on my first attempt.
Haven't spent even close to the amount of time I spent fighting these other bosses. Melania took me a full day to beat.
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peronmls
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The game has so many check points and marks your rune locations you can just constantly retry the same bosses. It's already easy mode. Weapon is constantly sharp and never goes dull or breaks. Jump unnatural distances on foot. Skyrim up rocks. Fall longer and still survive. What are legs? Easy. The gitgud mechanic is gone pretty much. I felt more like a Knight in Dark Souls 1. idk. Animation canceling is nice.
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TheTurboFD
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Ha if that were the case then people wouldn't be begging for quest/map markers and waypoints of the like. Hell if they weren't hardcore why are people complaining about not having a difficulty slider
I collect VHS tapes
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in DS3 on my strength build I can literally break the stance and stagger pretty much every mob and go HAM on them.
in ER, most enemies and pretty much all bosses can you hit 100 times while you wind up with a big heavy swing from a str weapon.
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Swift_Star
Banned
So annoying to not be able to break the poise of crucible knights.
fart town usa
Gold Member
The game honestly isn't that difficult, especially when you compare it to prior Souls games.
I guess if you're going 100% solo it'd be pretty tough but tackling areas in coop and utilizing summons makes the game a breeze for the most part. Yea, there's areas of the map that kick my ass but I'm clearly under-leveled. I'll just come back and breeze through it like I have in other spots that gave me trouble.
At this point I chalk it up to a vocal minority who still haven't played the game and are hung up on the "difficulty" and those who hated the game at first, but stuck with it and are too proud to admit they were a bit reactionary. There's definitely a few of the latter here on Gaf. And lets be honest too, in the former camp there's so many Twitter jackoffs who look at their demands as lines drawn in the sand and they will screech for it as long as they can until their demands are implemented. These same people probably have zero interest in actually playing the game, they just love to battle over stupid shit and insert themselves into things.
12+ million sold should honestly be a large sign for the EASY MODE crowd to STFU and get over it. Maybe take that energy and put it towards asking From Software to get their engine to run at a stable framerate. That's the only valid criticism of the game IMO. Everything else is just whining. Sorry if that's rude.
I guess if you're going 100% solo it'd be pretty tough but tackling areas in coop and utilizing summons makes the game a breeze for the most part. Yea, there's areas of the map that kick my ass but I'm clearly under-leveled. I'll just come back and breeze through it like I have in other spots that gave me trouble.
At this point I chalk it up to a vocal minority who still haven't played the game and are hung up on the "difficulty" and those who hated the game at first, but stuck with it and are too proud to admit they were a bit reactionary. There's definitely a few of the latter here on Gaf. And lets be honest too, in the former camp there's so many Twitter jackoffs who look at their demands as lines drawn in the sand and they will screech for it as long as they can until their demands are implemented. These same people probably have zero interest in actually playing the game, they just love to battle over stupid shit and insert themselves into things.
12+ million sold should honestly be a large sign for the EASY MODE crowd to STFU and get over it. Maybe take that energy and put it towards asking From Software to get their engine to run at a stable framerate. That's the only valid criticism of the game IMO. Everything else is just whining. Sorry if that's rude.
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Ghost of Caelid
Banned
They don't seem harder, but the health pools seem much higher.
Bkdk
Member
Nah, don't give the easy mode, that will force more gamers to play on pc, which is a great thing for the pc platform, eventually console focused devs won't be able to neglect the pc ever, those switch and some sony devs will not be able to reject the profit opportunity in pc any longer.
Btw, just another reason why pc is essential for gamers.
Btw, just another reason why pc is essential for gamers.
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KungFucius
King Snowflake
If you buy something that is too hard but cannot get a refund what then? There are a lot of disappointed people because the game was so hyped. Do you try to make them happy so they buy the next one, or say fuck you, I don't care because I have your money and my fanatics would cry like babies if I gave an easy mode they would never use because apparently hard games with an option for an easy mode is not for them.
I collect VHS tapes
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believe it or not, but some degree of responsibility falls on the consumer to do some research on something before they buy it
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DiddyKongRacing69
Member
That is their fault for buying a Fromsoftware game. If you buy a game from a company known for making hard games with a singular difficulty , it turning out hard with a singular difficulty is a ""Pikachu shock"
Not every game is for everyone. I don't get mad when Xcom and Sniper aren't like COD nor do i get mad that Schindler's List isn't an action packed movie like The Avengers.
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If you buy a driving game but suck at it and you never win, are you going to request a refund?
And what happens if they add an easy mode and people still suck, what's next? It's not like the Souls games are story heavy and there is the necessity of a "Story Mode" like many games nowadays...
Skifi28
Member
I propose auto-pilot mode, where the game plays itself and you earn all the achievements while you watch something else on Netflix.
Gatekeeping at its finest. ELDEN RING and FS games in general are not going to suffer because some people don't care for the level of in-game gating that occurs so let people offer their opinions.
Ridiculous statement that only serves to make games even more niche.
Ridiculous statement that only serves to make games even more niche.
DiddyKongRacing69
Member
*Looks at Elden Ring's 12 Million copies* hmmm. Sounds like what they are doing is working.
Also not all games are nor should be mainstream or cater to the tastes of Mainstream audiences.
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Krappadizzle
Member
I've never played a FromSoft game easier to cheese than Elden Ring. There are literally DOZENS of avenues to cheese whether it's straight up broken arcane/blood/poison builds that you can have up and going within the first hour of the game or just broken ash of war/summons that can do 90% of the heavy lifting or just being able to cheese the A.I. pathing to make a bunch of fights super easy. Elden Ring is as hard on you as you want to make it. If you don't want to go online and search for the answers/solutions to your problem and want to discover things organically, then yeah, it's gonna be a tough go your first time through. But then, the game just may not be for you.
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Great. Now make it work for millions of other players.
DiddyKongRacing69
Member
They don't have to if it isn't in their vision. Cause not every game needs or should be mainstream or cater to the mainstream audiences.
Isn't twitch streams basically this? You just don't get the achievements.
On PS you can shareplay though, if you want someone else play the game for you
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I collect VHS tapes
Member
stop trying to control how they choose to make their games. you sound mental.
they released it the way they wanted it, and it did really, really well.
they don't need to compromise on what their vision of the game was to make some idiots who suck at video games on the internet happy.
DiddyKongRacing69
Member
Exactly. The game is already selling on the same level as some of the biggest Triple AAA titles around, so apparently what Fromsoft is doing isn't hurting them at all.
I wouldn't be surprised if those demanding it are just experiencing some sort of FOMO.
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CaptainSuperFish
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Add an easy mode and the ability to swap mid game and I'd be interested in checking it out, until then I've no interest in potentially being stuck with a game that's going to take hours and hours just to beat one boss. I get very little spare time to play games, I want to make progress during that time not bash my head against a brick wall.
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fart town usa
Gold Member
Why should anyone get a refund over a games difficulty?
The game is designed so that everyone has the same baseline experience. How you choose to tackle the game is up to you but everyone has to go through the same grind. It's a fun community driven experience and is honestly not that daunting if you just play the game and stick with it. Having an easy mode is not what the game is designed around and it would split the player base and largely ruin the overall experience.
It's like watching a 5 year old trying to learn how to ride a bike after the training wheels have just been removed. They're having fun but rage when they can't get it right away. You can give up and demand the training wheels or you can stick with and learn how to ride the bike. The Souls community is there cheering them on, the only one holding the EASY mode crowd back are themselves. Hundreds of people would be willing to link up in coop to help them out if they just stopped crying and asked for help/advice.
It's so dumb, lol.
Cheers.
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Relax Alice and put your pearls away. Nowhere did I say that FS has an imperative to do anything, simply that they could.
Cool. Now add more options for people to play and see it do "really, really, REALLY well." Or not.
. . .if a games "vision" is compromised because of options that allow more people to engage with the game itself, then perhaps it wasn't that strong of a "vision" to begin with.
ZoukGalaxy
Member
STOP making elden ring thread everyday !
