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Elden Ring might be one of the most overrated games ever!

bbeach123

Member
Well my first playthrough was so bad I rage quit after 30-40hours .Classic strength build 2Hand GS in this game at launch was fcking SUCK . The AI too aggressive .

The second start was better , I didnt realise there are a lots of NPCs you met on the way pointing you to the next area . So I feel like at least I have a goal , not wander aimlessly like in the first playthrough . The quest was nice , do the quest, this game only 7/10 without the quests .


Game have many flawed . I dont like lots of things but it is what it is .Even Botw , witcher 3, skyrim was not perfect , understandable .
 

Elitro

Member
140 hrs in, just killed Malenia. Eventually started also playing FF7 rmk to take a break.

Honestly i think some of the problems wouldn't be so visible if they kept the game shorter. The game is absolutely massive if you are trying to do everything, this exposes the need to pad the content with reused bosses and repetitive dungeon patterns.

That being said i don't find the game boring at all, whenever i pick it up i'm always 100% focused because every corner can have a deadly enemy/trap.
And i also enjoy the linearity of the dungeons, it's pretty much required to keep the pace of exploration faster.

The exploration is pretty much night and day when compared to FF7 where the game literally prevents you from exploring (makes non story areas forbidden). What would you consider the golden standard of open world exploration? Because honestly this would be by far my best experience.

I also really enjoyed not be told what to do. It feels like you are really there, no one nagging you on where to go or what to do. Every player will explore differently from one another, that's quite an achievement.

I don't really hate on reused enemies that much because if you spent so much time learning the fight for some of them it's nice when you can make effective use of that time somewhere in the future.

The boss balance is definitely tricky. While i do feel that some fights are really unfair (Malenia) it forces the player to try out different Weapon/AoW combinations until they can make a breakthrough, which tbh is something that i hardly ever did until ER. I always bulldozed content with my current build in every game, so i kinda like how ER forces you to experiment because otherwise if you try to push a boss with an unfit build you will have to be mechanically perfect.

ER gave me the same sense of wonder that DS gave me back then. But yeah, i would have preferred a shorter game with a bigger focus on quality/balance.
 

nemiroff

Gold Member
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ANDS

King of Gaslighting
The boring mini-dungeons, the reuse of bosses and no iteration whatsoever in the combat gameplay, is what has lead me to be rank Elden Ring as better than Demon's and Dark Souls 3 and 1, but pales - by a wide margin - to the joy of build discovery in Dark Souls 2 and the combat and encounters of Bloodborne. I'd rather run a Chalice Dungeon than the stuff we get in Elden Ring.

Also what do you even explore in Assassins Creed? All the points of interest are on the map once you do the eagle sync thingy.

Can turn those off, just like you can not use the markers in ER (and let's be honest, ER's map also heavily tells you where points of interest are; it takes you reading the map but it's still there).

Someone must be really bored so they decided to go the "I really need attention" route and post something really stupid on the web. Guess it's that time of the month.

. . .followed up by the even edgier take of "You don't like something I don't so you must just be looking for attention." It's got an insult AND self-congratulation all in one!

and, in the meantime, it keeps receiving 10/10...3 days ago
https://www.slantmagazine.com/games/elden-ring-review/

If it didn't, you really wouldn't be able to call it "overrated" now would you? The criticism - intrinsically - acknowledges that something is overwhelmingly well received.
 
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tommib

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Elden Ring will go down as a genuine classic and a behemoth of level and world design. Get over it, OP.

The only thing I would fault in the game is the tired fantasy settings - from bosses to overal aesthetics. From still has the best artists illustrating dark-fantasy concepts but they need to move on from this or add some new radical twist.
 
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ParaSeoul

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My main issues with the game is the padding towards the end, the dumb horse and stupid fall damage and how much it just feels like we're treading old ground again. Most of the bosses are easy. Even some of the lore with the dragons and trees seem to be very similar to Dark Souls.
Elden Ring is a good game but its not a 10/10 and far from the best From Soft game.
 

wOs

Member
In a world where the elden ring overworld is boringI have no idea what to say about the games we've been playing for years.

It's chock full of stuff to explore and constantly rewards you for going out of your way.

Sorry to hear the game wasn't for you. Surprised that it evokes so much emotion that you would post a lengthy thread. Because, it sure sounds like you never would have liked it.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
I personally love the exploration in Elden Ring, finding stuff feels so rewarding compare to Ubisoft style open world which already find everything for you.

But these days EVERY game that has good review considered “overrated” here.
 
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In a world where the elden ring overworld is boringI have no idea what to say about the games we've been playing for years.

It's chock full of stuff to explore and constantly rewards you for going out of your way.

Sorry to hear the game wasn't for you. Surprised that it evokes so much emotion that you would post a lengthy thread. Because, it sure sounds like you never would have liked it.
His doing it to piss people off and to prove his "brave" enough for his unpopular opinion. It's a typical troll dude. Guy is just a degenerate in his mom's basement who has nothing better to do.
 
There's no such thing as "overrated" in the context of video games because that would imply there is some "correct" rating that a game deserves. So I won't say it's overrated, however I will say if Elden Ring style becomes the standard/template for all open world games going forward, I would stop playing open world games. The only thing that saves it is that the Soulsborne gameplay is top notch, but I could do without the copy pasted everything and unrewarding exploration of Elden Ring
 

Kssio_Aug

Member
I don't usually call games overrated, but ER has tons of flaws and is one of the highest rated gamed in many years. My surprise is not that it got well received, it is still fundamentally a good game, but that it got pretty much 10/10 from every critic.
 

tommib

Member
I keep seeing people say this but I don't get it,its far better than the shit Ubisoft shit out but I wouldn't call it anything groundbreaking.
It’s groundbreaking for From Software, who have arguably the most interesting level design out there. Just the scope of it elevates the whole game. There’s so much (hidden) content and it’s all at the top of From’s game. It’s such a joy to just play it. We just don’t get a lot of games like these, with dense atmosphere, lush overworld music, endless build variety, secrets galore, minimal cutscenes, high production values, horses double jumping… ;)
 
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ParaSeoul

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It’s groundbreaking for From Software, who have arguably the most interesting level design out there. Just the scope of it elevates the whole game. There’s so much (hidden) content and it’s all at the top of From’s game. It’s such a joy to just play it. We just don’t get a lot of games like these, with dense atmosphere, lush overworld music, endless build variety, secrets galore, minimal cutscenes, horses double jumping… ;)
I enjoyed it. Clearly not to the extent some people did though. Just seems like our standards these days are so low anything doing anything a bit better than the usual AAA slog gets extreme praise.
 

Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
I don't usually call games overrated, but ER has tons of flaws and is one of the highest rated gamed in many years. My surprise is not that it got well received, it is still fundamentally a good game, but that it got pretty much 10/10 from every critic.
EVERY game has flaws one way or another and 10/10 doesn’t mean “flawless” game, it just mean how much someone enjoy that game.

People STOP focusing on “scores” alone for love of god!
 

ParaSeoul

Member
His doing it to piss people off and to prove his "brave" enough for his unpopular opinion. It's a typical troll dude. Guy is just a degenerate in his mom's basement who has nothing better to do.
Hes going a bit overboard claiming Elden Ring is shit (it isn't). I think its fine to to not agree with the popular consensus but the way its done here just seems like attention whoring.
 

Urban

Member
Well OP i understand you. Judged by your Avatar, you pretty much like to be the main character thats why Elden Ring is nothing for you.

Because in Elden Ring the world doesnt give a fuck about you as a player.
 

Kssio_Aug

Member
His doing it to piss people off and to prove his "brave" enough for his unpopular opinion. It's a typical troll dude. Guy is just a degenerate in his mom's basement who has nothing better to do.
Do you usually trace an entire person profile like this? Are you sure you're not describing your own life by accident?

Hes going a bit overboard claiming Elden Ring is shit (it isn't). I think its fine to to not agree with the popular consensus but the way its done here just seems like attention whoring.
The thing is, I did not call the game shit. It is a good game, but probably the least good one from the entire Souls franchise.
 
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The problem is calling something, which majority of people enjoy it an overrated product.

Its ok to have issues with the game, which you don't like it. But calling it the most overrated, because you have issues kinda defeats your point.

Just like how you have issues with the game, people like those issues.

After decade of boring open world, elden ring is the new fresh of open world. Too many dangerous stuff, and it makes you use your brain.

Nah, most times a game that is overrated is not overrated because people like the flaws. It's that because of what they do like about the game, they sweep the flaws under the rug and give the game a free pass.

Those issues might be easy to overlook by those who are swept up in excitement and hype, but the others will see the gaping flaws more clearly and will claim the game was overrated.

In the case of Elden Ring, I'm gonna have to agree with the OP.
 

Damigos

Member
Elden Ring is a very good open world game. But i feel it is missing the magic of Soulsbornes maybe due to the openworldness. I miss the narrow corridors and the density of the other From Soft games, but on the other hand i dont really like huge open space sandboxes, so maybe i am not the best judge.
Still a really good game, just not better than the other ones
 
Elden Ring is a very good open world game. But i feel it is missing the magic of Soulsbornes maybe due to the openworldness. I miss the narrow corridors and the density of the other From Soft games, but on the other hand i dont really like huge open space sandboxes, so maybe i am not the best judge.
Still a really good game, just not better than the other ones

No... Your opinion and judgement are just as valid as everyone else's.

Everyone's perspective is rooted fundamentally in subjective preferences.
 

Fredrik

Member
It’s the game that made me fall in love with FROM. It’s not overrated at all as far as I’m concerned. I’ve essentially only played Elden Ring since it’s release, dropped Horizon Forbidden West, Gran Turismo 7, Tunic, etc, and I would do it again without hesitation. 100+ hours now. Game of the Year, Game of the Generation. I’m not ready to place it above Super Metroid, Zelda BOTW and Skyrim on my best game of all time list yet, but I might be once I’m done with it.
 
Its a very well crafted game. It actually defeated me and I'm trying to cope with it lol. It's the first game that I had to use others to help me in the FROM games. I kept under leveled for the most part to increase the challenge. I may be more disappointed in myself than the game, but I will say I didn't see it as a masterpiece like I did Dark Souls 3. Here are my positives and negatives.

Positives:
- So much content
- Challenging and unique bosses
- many different unique types of levels
- Ashes of war are really cool
- many different options for how to play

Negatives (Many of these are personal)
- less focus on melee combat. Magic is a big part of the game. Considering summons too
- pretty much the same story or goal as dark souls
- I miss the macabre and "dark" setting from dark souls and bloodborne
- reused bosses
 

Kssio_Aug

Member
To everyone saying I'm wrong, tell me, what makes you think the Open World is actually good?

Don't you agree that NPCs feel dead in this huge world? NPCs you interact with stay still like in previous games, and enemies just walk around in circles.

Don't you agree that most dungeons are extremely similar to one another? Reusing assets and even some templates?

Don't you agree the game has serious balancing issues?
 
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V4skunk

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I have been playing the game for quite some time now, but I expected so much better specially given how well received it was. It has so many flaws that would never have a pass for pretty much any other 3rd party franchise, that I can't even comprehend how it has been so highly regarded.

First, the main issue: The open world exploration SUCKS TREMENDOUSLY! I haven't been that much bored by exploration for so long. Not even Far Cry and Assassin's Creed have been this boring to explore, and I do consider them quite boring nowadays. There's no reward to wander around the map, other than that sense of finally finding a cave with some sort of decent level design to go through and fight a boss. The open world is basically a huge useless HUB which you need to traverse to find the actual content of the game.

And talking about caves, good Lord, they were definitely not ashamed at all to recycle content. I have been in pretty much the same catacomb numerous times. Dungeons with extremely similar looks and patterns: you get into a cave, rest at the state of grace, go down stairs and find a locked door, then make your way through this little dungeon, pull a lever, come back to the start, the door is open, fight the boss. Also, the boss might be one you have already fought like 3 or 4 times already before, with slightly variation of attacks and carrying a different weapon. Still, it's already MUCH better than wandering that barren open world.

I'm also under the impression that From Software can't figure out anymore how to make the game more challenging to it's players other than making bosses faster, with extremely high poise, and with big combos that will lock you until they manage to break your defense and fuck you up. This is the "easiest" Soul game because you basically need to kill dozens of optional bosses in order to overpower the main ones.

Also fighting with big and slow weapons is a chore now, because the window you have now to damage the bosses is minimal before they restart their combo cycle. The balance that the previous games used to provide is pretty much gone.

And I won't even talk about the graphics and performance, this game runs worse in my computer than a lot of others that looks way better. But this is no surprise, and it's something that I can ignore as long as I'm having fun with the game.

But anyway, Elden Ring is like two steps backwards compared to all their previous games. Up until now, I always praised the level design of any Souls games, Bloodborne and Sekiro; but it is almost nonexistent in ER. After what they've done to Sekiro, I believed From Software was gonna be able to deliver their best next Souls game, but instead they gave me an unbalanced Boss Rush game with a useless and boring open world hub.

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Stopped reading at "Not even Far Cry and Assassin's Creed have been this boring to explore".
 

Kssio_Aug

Member
out of curiosity then, what is a game you consider to have good open world?
The Witcher 3 and Red Dead Redemption 2 have great open world, imo. Exploring it is interesting because you stumble on unexpected events and interesting NPCs along the way. BotW is also interesting imo, because you can interact with the world in some really surprising ways, like using thunder and fire as elements in combat, or cutting trees to make bridges, and things like it. They're way more interactive than in ER.

You want rewarding exploration, but on the other hand want everything shown to you on a map?

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You're missing the point. As I said, I don't like Ubisoft's open world either. I would just rather have the points of interest shown in ER so I could skip to what matters since exploration is just not fun in this game.

Until now, most criticizing my opinion have not presented a single counter argument.
 
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ClosBSAS

Member
I stopped reading at the open world exploration sucks.. BAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

saying far cry games have better open world exploration is ridiculous. But hey man to each their own, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

You wanna know what's overrated? RDR2 and GTAV are overrated as fuxkkk
 
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Edgelord79

Gold Member
The Witcher 3 and Red Dead Redemption 2 have great open world, imo. Exploring it is interesting because you stumble on unexpected events and interesting NPCs along the way. BotW is also interesting imo, because you can interact with the world in some really surprising ways, like using thunder and fire as elements in combat, or cutting trees to make bridges, and things like it. They're way more interactive than in ER.


You're missing the point. As I said, I don't like Ubisoft's open world either. I would just rather have the points of interest shown in ER so I could skip to what matters since exploration is just not fun in this game.
Fair enough. I don’t agree with the exploration point of your argument, but that’s why opinions exist and I can respect that.
 

Guilty_AI

Member
The Witcher 3 and Red Dead Redemption 2 have great open world, imo. Exploring it is interesting because you stumble on unexpected events and interesting NPCs along the way. BotW is also interesting imo, because you can interact with the world in some really surprising ways, like using thunder and fire as elements in combat, or cutting trees to make bridges, and things like it. They're way more interactive than in ER.
So basically you like immersive-sims types of worlds.
ER is a more utilitarian type that you usually find in MMOs, they're tend to be more predictable (though ER does a great job at not making it too predictable) and make the point of exploration having something to gain from it, usually xp and items.

That said i also like immersive types of open world, but i have to say TW3 and RDR2 are quite terrible at it, especially RDR2.
I also think they're overrated and not very good games in general. See? You're far from being unique in thinking highly popular and highly rated things don't deserve it, its just another day on the internet.
 
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Kssio_Aug

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So basically you like immersive-sims types of worlds.
ER is a more utilitarian type that you usually find in MMOs, they're in general more predictable (though ER does a great job at not making it too predictable) and the point of exploration is because you have something to gain from it, usually xp and items.

That said i also like immersive types of open world, but i have to say TW3 and RDR2 are quite terrible at it, especially RDR2.
I also think they're highly overrated and in general not very good games. See? You're far from being unique in thinking highly popular and highly rated things don't deserve it, its just another day on the internet.
Well, some of you people that assumed that I'm doing it for popularity or any shit like that. For me, it was just an expression of opinion in an internet gaming board. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
The game is great. But I do not like it as much as previous ones. For me the problems are:
Huge boss repetition
Crafting
Exploration but for what reward?
Punishing for melee builds only
Bad balance
I preferred hand crafted world over open world and caves
Bosses in the end game suck and are too aggressive.

Anyway. I suck as expressing my opinion but take a look here
 

Kssio_Aug

Member
You literally made a thread for it when you could've just gone to the OT to express your opinion. You want attention.
Yeah, I wanted people to read it and discuss it. Most people that shares a similar opinion than mine, probably do not access the OT.

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The game is great. But I do not like it as much as previous ones. For me the problems are:
Huge boss repetition
Crafting
Exploration but for what reward?
Punishing for melee builds only
Bad balance
I preferred hand crafted world over open world and caves
Bosses in the end game suck and are too aggressive.

Anyway. I suck as expressing my opinion but take a look here

That's pretty much exactly how I feel.
 
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