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Xbox Games Showcase Extended on June 14th

Stuart360

Stuart360

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0neAnd0nly said:
This might be unpopular, but XBOX kind of has to flood the gate here with stuff as a goodwill outreach for how blatantly bad they have been with expectations since their major acquisitions. The 2023 delays left a bad taste in the mouth of many, their output hasn't created system sellers in the last 5 years.

It's a problem.

Hopefully some cool stuff to see, but much like with the Sony presser, I would temper expectations and hope to be pleasantly surprised if you are a XBOX fan.
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Almost all their aqusitions have been over the last 2-3 years, even less for some of them. It was always going to be a waiting game in regards to the games.

And its not really a 'problem' when the masses, which vastly outnumber us nerds spending hours a day on gaming sites, probably dont even know about these delays. Hell most of them wont even know what Starfield is, nevermind that its been delayed lol.
It certainly hasnt effected Series sales so far this gen.
 
0neAnd0nly

0neAnd0nly

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Stuart360 said:
Almost all their aqusitions have been over the last 2-3 years, even less for some of them. It was always going to be a waiting game in regards to the games.

And its not really a 'problem' when the masses, which vastly outnumber us nerds spending hours a day on gaming sites, probably dont even know about these delays. Hell most of them wont even know what Starfield is, nevermind that its been delayed lol.
It certainly hasnt effected Series sales so far this gen.
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Who do you think these showcases are for though?

The "nerds" primarily. Core gamers. Sure it will trickle down the line, but those tuning in are for.

No doubt that XBOX fans have constantly reminded gamers that "many acquisitions were within the last 3 years" so we shouldn't expect much yet - but that isn't the core issue. I am not asking for releases, but the hype generated, information, and yes - there has been output since their acquisition part began 5 years ago has yet to deliver. But there has been more than what you have described that haven't really turned out hit machines. Ninja Theory, Undead, Compulsion, and Playground were all 2018. I would argue that NT was the best of the bunch, but none of these have really produced system selling or hyped games. Compared to Kojima and Playstation - with a relatively niche product in Death Stranding captivating far more hype and discussion, it's a disappointment. Xbox has hurt their image a good bit in the last year; delays to arguably 2 of their 3 major "2022" titles, 343 drama and complete chaos, and still getting beaten by their largest competitor all while acquiring the largest game publisher in the world and while their console has been far more readily available for purchase.

I am not trying to be doom and gloom at all for XBOX. I have said on here before, though I consider myself a Playstation player primarily, I like Phil and all. But I just hope people are not getting too hyped. I don't think it will be hard for XBOX to beat Playstation's summer showcase. Playstation's showcase was relatively average. I am simply saying they need some good will and press because I don't think 2022 has gone how they have hoped.

I do want to stress before somebody tries to catch me on this post or your original reply to me. Yes, XSX has continued to sell well. However, it has had every advantage in the world to do such and still can't overtake PS5. XSX is way more easily acquirable compared to PS5. There are more on shelves, more on online retailers. They should have, hypothetically, had a massive sales bump after the Activision/ Blizzard acquisition, but nothing major. Sony has done everything in it's power to present a relatively average landscape since Ryan took the helm, and XBOX should have been able to capitalize more on that.

That's all just my .02

Not trying to crap on XBOX at all, just I think they need some good will towards gamers as they try to turn the tides of the last 2 generations.
 
ChorizoPicozo

ChorizoPicozo

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Ok...this is concerning in so many levels: Serious discussion. 🤪
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I just want to see extended gameplay daddy Phill.
 
Stuart360

Stuart360

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0neAnd0nly said:
Who do you think these showcases are for though?

The "nerds" primarily. Core gamers. Sure it will trickle down the line, but those tuning in are for.

No doubt that XBOX fans have constantly reminded gamers that "many acquisitions were within the last 3 years" so we shouldn't expect much yet - but that isn't the core issue. I am not asking for releases, but the hype generated, information, and yes - there has been output since their acquisition part began 5 years ago has yet to deliver. But there has been more than what you have described that haven't really turned out hit machines. Ninja Theory, Undead, Compulsion, and Playground were all 2018. I would argue that NT was the best of the bunch, but none of these have really produced system selling or hyped games. Compared to Kojima and Playstation - with a relatively niche product in Death Stranding captivating far more hype and discussion, it's a disappointment. Xbox has hurt their image a good bit in the last year; delays to arguably 2 of their 3 major "2022" titles, 343 drama and complete chaos, and still getting beaten by their largest competitor all while acquiring the largest game publisher in the world and while their console has been far more readily available for purchase.

I am not trying to be doom and gloom at all for XBOX. I have said on here before, though I consider myself a Playstation player primarily, I like Phil and all. But I just hope people are not getting too hyped. I don't think it will be hard for XBOX to beat Playstation's summer showcase. Playstation's showcase was relatively average. I am simply saying they need some good will and press because I don't think 2022 has gone how they have hoped.

I do want to stress before somebody tries to catch me on this post or your original reply to me. Yes, XSX has continued to sell well. However, it has had every advantage in the world to do such and still can't overtake PS5. XSX is way more easily acquirable compared to PS5. There are more on shelves, more on online retailers. They should have, hypothetically, had a massive sales bump after the Activision/ Blizzard acquisition, but nothing major. Sony has done everything in it's power to present a relatively average landscape since Ryan took the helm, and XBOX should have been able to capitalize more on that.

That's all just my .02

Not trying to crap on XBOX at all, just I think they need some good will towards gamers as they try to turn the tides of the last 2 generations.
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I dont think i have seen one Xbox fanboy say they think Series consoles will sell more than PS5 this gen. In fact i very much doubt Phil and Microsoft themselves expect to beat PS5.
So i'm not sure why you're bringing that up, except the fact that Sony fanboys seem to be obssessed with sales over literlaly anything else.

If you offered Microsoft 80mil Xbox sales this gen (and i think they will hit 80mil), they would probably bite your hand off. PS5 is still going to sell 100+mil though.
 
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johnjohn

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0neAnd0nly said:
Who do you think these showcases are for though?

The "nerds" primarily. Core gamers. Sure it will trickle down the line, but those tuning in are for.

No doubt that XBOX fans have constantly reminded gamers that "many acquisitions were within the last 3 years" so we shouldn't expect much yet - but that isn't the core issue. I am not asking for releases, but the hype generated, information, and yes - there has been output since their acquisition part began 5 years ago has yet to deliver. But there has been more than what you have described that haven't really turned out hit machines. Ninja Theory, Undead, Compulsion, and Playground were all 2018. I would argue that NT was the best of the bunch, but none of these have really produced system selling or hyped games. Compared to Kojima and Playstation - with a relatively niche product in Death Stranding captivating far more hype and discussion, it's a disappointment. Xbox has hurt their image a good bit in the last year; delays to arguably 2 of their 3 major "2022" titles, 343 drama and complete chaos, and still getting beaten by their largest competitor all while acquiring the largest game publisher in the world and while their console has been far more readily available for purchase.

I am not trying to be doom and gloom at all for XBOX. I have said on here before, though I consider myself a Playstation player primarily, I like Phil and all. But I just hope people are not getting too hyped. I don't think it will be hard for XBOX to beat Playstation's summer showcase. Playstation's showcase was relatively average. I am simply saying they need some good will and press because I don't think 2022 has gone how they have hoped.

I do want to stress before somebody tries to catch me on this post or your original reply to me. Yes, XSX has continued to sell well. However, it has had every advantage in the world to do such and still can't overtake PS5. XSX is way more easily acquirable compared to PS5. There are more on shelves, more on online retailers. They should have, hypothetically, had a massive sales bump after the Activision/ Blizzard acquisition, but nothing major. Sony has done everything in it's power to present a relatively average landscape since Ryan took the helm, and XBOX should have been able to capitalize more on that.

That's all just my .02

Not trying to crap on XBOX at all, just I think they need some good will towards gamers as they try to turn the tides of the last 2 generations.
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I think they've had like non-stop goodwill over the past two years lol. That's why the brand is in such a good place now compared to the Xbox One and they're selling every console they make. They've put in A LOT of work to turn around the brand after last gen. Honestly, nothing in your post seems to be really based in reality.
 
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Stuart360

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Fredrik said:
Awesome! I hope it’s a longer gameplay video for Starfield. Short gameplay trailer on the 12th and a deep dive on the 14th.
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I'm actually interested to see how much of Starfield we get to see, now its been delayed. I'm certainly not expecting a 20+min deep dive like we would of got if it was hitting its Nov release.
 
Negotiator101

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R6Rider said:
They must have had a change of plans to announce this extra one now. I wonder if they were going to hold it for later in the year orgiinally.
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It's probably more to do with not being able to fit everyone in to the main showcase. I think some people are unaware that Microsoft have over 23 developers currently and that's not counting the 3rd party exclusives. Most are at least creating 2 games, you're talking potentially 50 games in development, it's crazy.
 
clarky

clarky

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0neAnd0nly said:
Who do you think these showcases are for though?

The "nerds" primarily. Core gamers. Sure it will trickle down the line, but those tuning in are for.

No doubt that XBOX fans have constantly reminded gamers that "many acquisitions were within the last 3 years" so we shouldn't expect much yet - but that isn't the core issue. I am not asking for releases, but the hype generated, information, and yes - there has been output since their acquisition part began 5 years ago has yet to deliver. But there has been more than what you have described that haven't really turned out hit machines. Ninja Theory, Undead, Compulsion, and Playground were all 2018. I would argue that NT was the best of the bunch, but none of these have really produced system selling or hyped games. Compared to Kojima and Playstation - with a relatively niche product in Death Stranding captivating far more hype and discussion, it's a disappointment. Xbox has hurt their image a good bit in the last year; delays to arguably 2 of their 3 major "2022" titles, 343 drama and complete chaos, and still getting beaten by their largest competitor all while acquiring the largest game publisher in the world and while their console has been far more readily available for purchase.

I am not trying to be doom and gloom at all for XBOX. I have said on here before, though I consider myself a Playstation player primarily, I like Phil and all. But I just hope people are not getting too hyped. I don't think it will be hard for XBOX to beat Playstation's summer showcase. Playstation's showcase was relatively average. I am simply saying they need some good will and press because I don't think 2022 has gone how they have hoped.

I do want to stress before somebody tries to catch me on this post or your original reply to me. Yes, XSX has continued to sell well. However, it has had every advantage in the world to do such and still can't overtake PS5. XSX is way more easily acquirable compared to PS5. There are more on shelves, more on online retailers. They should have, hypothetically, had a massive sales bump after the Activision/ Blizzard acquisition, but nothing major. Sony has done everything in it's power to present a relatively average landscape since Ryan took the helm, and XBOX should have been able to capitalize more on that.

That's all just my .02

Not trying to crap on XBOX at all, just I think they need some good will towards gamers as they try to turn the tides of the last 2 generations.
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Pretty much the acquisitions you mentioned all had games come out around the time MS snapped them up, since then they have release content for those games and we should be seeing new stuff fairly soon if not on sunday.

They crapped the bed with last gen granted, but the 360 was great, bar the last year or 2. This gen has barely got going, from both camps so cant comment on it till its over.

Also dont see why you get a massive sales bump on something that hasn't happened yet?

Got both a PS5 and a Xbox ( but play mostly on PC) Both systems have pretty much nothing for the rest of this year as of today first party wise, bar GOW but that still doesn't have a release date. Like it or not we are clearly seeing the delayed effects of covid, its stuck a year of dev time on pretty much everything.

See what happens on sunday im expecting a decent show and plenty to look forward to. Same with Sony when they decide to have a show.

2023 and beyond is when this gen finally gets into 2nd gear imo.
 
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Mercenary09

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thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
Lezzzgo Parris Lilly & Colt Eastwood!!
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If Colt Eastwood is on it I'm turning it off. That guy is a POS fanboy that spreads false information. I still remember his Xbox One vs PS4 exclusive videos on Youtube where he deliberately picked some of the worst PS4 exclusives to include while omitting other ones just to try and make Xbox seem better or on par. One of those people who preys on those who are too stupid to go look up the facts themselves.
 
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Robb

Robb

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Nice, I won’t be able to tune in live on the 14th but I’ll consume all the highlights afterwards.
 
thicc_girls_are_teh_best

thicc_girls_are_teh_best

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Mercenary09 said:
If Colt Eastwood is on it I'm turning it off. That guy is a POS fanboy that spreads false information. I still remember his Xbox One vs PS4 exclusive videos on Youtube where he deliberately picked some of the worst PS4 exclusives to include while omitting other ones just to try and make Xbox seem better or on par. One of those people who preys on those who are too stupid to go look up the facts themselves.
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Lol I was just joking; dunno if he is actually gonna be there, I'd prefer him over that chick at the last one tho.

But you're right about him making up stuff when it comes to PS, he was still pushing the "massively insane power delta" stuff until like a month ago maybe. I'm just thinking he might be a co-host because he went to visit the Xbox team last month and, tbh, he does have a good presenter voice & way of talking. Which is what you need for these kind of shows and also probably a reason they picked Parris.

Also you need some good natural banter between cohosts and Colt & Parris would probably be better than Parris & the girl they had for the last one where some of it felt fake.
 
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Three

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Mr. Banana said:
just read

"where we will share new trailers, take deeper looks at the news from the Xbox & Bethesda Games Showcase"

what part of the complicated phrase "we will share new trailers" some of you voluntarily do not understand?
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You can have new trailers for already announced/known games. Maybe even some unannounced smaller ones but I'm not sure why you're concentrated on that though. People were saying that this is some indie reveals focused show or that they couldn't fit all the games they had into the initial one. I just showed what the format is mainly about. The big games announced at the show get deep dives and a chat with devs.
 
oldergamer

oldergamer

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0neAnd0nly said:
Who do you think these showcases are for though?

The "nerds" primarily. Core gamers. Sure it will trickle down the line, but those tuning in are for.

No doubt that XBOX fans have constantly reminded gamers that "many acquisitions were within the last 3 years" so we shouldn't expect much yet - but that isn't the core issue. I am not asking for releases, but the hype generated, information, and yes - there has been output since their acquisition part began 5 years ago has yet to deliver. But there has been more than what you have described that haven't really turned out hit machines. Ninja Theory, Undead, Compulsion, and Playground were all 2018. I would argue that NT was the best of the bunch, but none of these have really produced system selling or hyped games. Compared to Kojima and Playstation - with a relatively niche product in Death Stranding captivating far more hype and discussion, it's a disappointment. Xbox has hurt their image a good bit in the last year; delays to arguably 2 of their 3 major "2022" titles, 343 drama and complete chaos, and still getting beaten by their largest competitor all while acquiring the largest game publisher in the world and while their console has been far more readily available for purchase.

I am not trying to be doom and gloom at all for XBOX. I have said on here before, though I consider myself a Playstation player primarily, I like Phil and all. But I just hope people are not getting too hyped. I don't think it will be hard for XBOX to beat Playstation's summer showcase. Playstation's showcase was relatively average. I am simply saying they need some good will and press because I don't think 2022 has gone how they have hoped.

I do want to stress before somebody tries to catch me on this post or your original reply to me. Yes, XSX has continued to sell well. However, it has had every advantage in the world to do such and still can't overtake PS5. XSX is way more easily acquirable compared to PS5. There are more on shelves, more on online retailers. They should have, hypothetically, had a massive sales bump after the Activision/ Blizzard acquisition, but nothing major. Sony has done everything in it's power to present a relatively average landscape since Ryan took the helm, and XBOX should have been able to capitalize more on that.

That's all just my .02

Not trying to crap on XBOX at all, just I think they need some good will towards gamers as they try to turn the tides of the last 2 generations.
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2 generations?? past one generation. To the rest, I say give it a rest. people want to get hyped up, let them
 
anthony2690

anthony2690

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Hopefully they save deep dive gameplay for this event.

I only need an overview trailer for starfield and Redfall at the main event.
 
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Ozriel

M$FT
0neAnd0nly said:
Who do you think these showcases are for though?

The "nerds" primarily. Core gamers. Sure it will trickle down the line, but those tuning in are for.

No doubt that XBOX fans have constantly reminded gamers that "many acquisitions were within the last 3 years" so we shouldn't expect much yet - but that isn't the core issue. I am not asking for releases, but the hype generated, information, and yes - there has been output since their acquisition part began 5 years ago has yet to deliver. But there has been more than what you have described that haven't really turned out hit machines. Ninja Theory, Undead, Compulsion, and Playground were all 2018. I would argue that NT was the best of the bunch, but none of these have really produced system selling or hyped games. Compared to Kojima and Playstation - with a relatively niche product in Death Stranding captivating far more hype and discussion, it's a disappointment. Xbox has hurt their image a good bit in the last year; delays to arguably 2 of their 3 major "2022" titles, 343 drama and complete chaos, and still getting beaten by their largest competitor all while acquiring the largest game publisher in the world and while their console has been far more readily available for purchase.

I am not trying to be doom and gloom at all for XBOX. I have said on here before, though I consider myself a Playstation player primarily, I like Phil and all. But I just hope people are not getting too hyped. I don't think it will be hard for XBOX to beat Playstation's summer showcase. Playstation's showcase was relatively average. I am simply saying they need some good will and press because I don't think 2022 has gone how they have hoped.

I do want to stress before somebody tries to catch me on this post or your original reply to me. Yes, XSX has continued to sell well. However, it has had every advantage in the world to do such and still can't overtake PS5. XSX is way more easily acquirable compared to PS5. There are more on shelves, more on online retailers. They should have, hypothetically, had a massive sales bump after the Activision/ Blizzard acquisition, but nothing major. Sony has done everything in it's power to present a relatively average landscape since Ryan took the helm, and XBOX should have been able to capitalize more on that.

That's all just my .02

Not trying to crap on XBOX at all, just I think they need some good will towards gamers as they try to turn the tides of the last 2 generations.
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Incredibly weird post.

First off with the hilarious timing: going “xbox has no games” 5 days to a major Showcase where tons of games, gameplay deep dives and release dates are to be expected.

Then next claiming that the supply limited Xbox should have outsold the (also supply limited) PS5, with some reality bending logic.

You should stop listening to fringe console warriors on Twitter. There’s no ‘hurt image’ here. And I think there’s more than enough information out there to know that this upcoming showcase is worth getting hyped over.

Again, holy shit at the timing! You could at least have waited until after the 12th…
 
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Ozriel

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IntentionalPun said:
They have re-iterated "new trailers" on twitter.. but honestly.. if something doesn't fit in the first 90 minute show.. it's probably cut for a reason lol
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Not necessarily, though.
At the Showcase proper, you’d want to keep gameplay demo for Starfield to say 5 mins, and maybe a minute or two for Redfall.

An extended show would let you show off a full mission in Redfall, or give you a 15 minute deep dive into the world of Starfield.

Some stuff that gets removed from the main shows aren’t quality related. I just read an interview of the dev behind Tetris Effect where they were gutted they weren’t going to be featured at Sony’s E3, but luckily Sony gave them another slot in a separate showcase that worked out just as well.
 
IntentionalPun

IntentionalPun

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Ozriel said:
Not necessarily, though.
At the Showcase proper, you’d want to keep gameplay demo for Starfield to say 5 mins, and maybe a minute or two for Redfall.

An extended show would let you show off a full mission in Redfall, or give you a 15 minute deep dive into the world of Starfield.

Some stuff that gets removed from the main shows aren’t quality related. I just read an interview of the dev behind Tetris Effect where they were gutted they weren’t going to be featured at Sony’s E3, but luckily Sony gave them another slot in a separate showcase that worked out just as well.
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I was only talking about trailers...they are implying they'll have trailers for games not in the main show.. I'm saying, they probably aren't particularly hyped games.
 
thicc_girls_are_teh_best

thicc_girls_are_teh_best

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Three said:
You can have new trailers for already announced/known games. Maybe even some unannounced smaller ones but I'm not sure why you're concentrated on that though. People were saying that this is some indie reveals focused show or that they couldn't fit all the games they had into the initial one. I just showed what the format is mainly about. The big games announced at the show get deep dives and a chat with devs.
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Yeah, that's what their extended showcases have always been. They had extended stuff for FH5 and Sea of Thieves (and Flight Sim) at the 2020 one, and similar stuff as the 2021 one where I think Halo Infinite Season 1 game cinematic trailer was shown off. The extended stuff usually has dev interviews between the host(s) and someone from the dev team.

They haven't really done new game trailer reveals at any of the extended showcase events from what I remember.

IntentionalPun said:
They have re-iterated "new trailers" on twitter.. but honestly.. if something doesn't fit in the first 90 minute show.. it's probably cut for a reason lol
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Could just mean new trailers for already revealed games, most likely. I highly doubt new games will be revealed in the extended showcase, since that's not what they've done for the past two extended showcase events.
 
MatrixReloaded101

MatrixReloaded101

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Hopefully a good amount of these games are coming out this year.

Not interested in seeing games I can't play for another 8+ months
 
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IntentionalPun

IntentionalPun

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thicc_girls_are_teh_best said:
Could just mean new trailers for already revealed games, most likely. I highly doubt new games will be revealed in the extended showcase, since that's not what they've done for the past two extended showcase events.
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Yeah I'd assume the same. I just meant "new" in the sense they aren't in the main show. Not that they are newly announced games or anything.
 
IntentionalPun

IntentionalPun

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DaGwaphics said:
Agreed.

Still a good sign that they didn't need these trailers as filler for the main event.
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Yeah potentially a good sign for sure.

I'll be tuning in either way for extended looks, but just saying not expecting much from trailers that skipped main.

Give me 30 minutes of nothing but Starfield gameplay!
 
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reksveks

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I think something like an extended and new gameplay trailer from Plague Tale 2 would be in something like this; whilst we get a shorter and more cinematic trailer in the main showcase on Sunday.
 
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