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NPD Sept. 2022: PS5 No. 1 units; PS5 No. 1 revenue; FIFA No. 1; NBA2k3 No. 3; Splatoon No. 4; LoUP1 No. 5

TLOU 1 Remake did well, but NOWHERE near as well as some people here hoped for.Like many of us has been saying for a long ass time, this remake was utterly unecessary.

PC will be the to decide if this game's sales will be underwhelming or not. Guess we will see.
A game on sale for 70 dollars charting at #5 clearly shows the market is here for it though, lmao.

It's also not just PC. This game will be the go-to game for the TV show once it debuts. Sony is counting on that as well.
 

Nautilus

Banned
A game on sale for 70 dollars charting at #5 clearly shows the market is here for it though, lmao.

It's also not just PC. This game will be the go-to game for the TV show once it debuts. Sony is counting on that as well.
Yours first point holds no ground, as 10 dollars wouldn't make up the difference for what seems to be a very significant drop in sales compared to the original and the second game. And I doubt this game was a budget title.

Now your second point has merits. I guess we will see if the show will have the impact Sony wants.
 

tommib

Member
TLOU 1 Remake did well, but NOWHERE near as well as some people here hoped for.Like many of us has been saying for a long ass time, this remake was utterly unecessary.

PC will be the to decide if this game's sales will be underwhelming or not. Guess we will see.
It’s behind only to all the multiplatform sports games and second to Splatoon 3 that is the fastest selling on a console that sold 120 million copies. It’s a mature game on a platform that’s still facing stock issues. At a premium price. A remake that “no one needed and was overpriced”. There’s nothing to decide. The market bought it.
 

Flutta

Banned
satya nadella:“With our Xbox Series S and X consoles, we have taken share globally for two quarters in a row and we are the market leader this quarter among the next-gen consoles in the United States, Canada, UK, and Western Europe.”

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Is that quote legit? 🤣
 
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Yours first point holds no ground, as 10 dollars wouldn't make up the difference for what seems to be a very significant drop in sales compared to the original and the second game. And I doubt this game was a budget title.

Now your second point has merits. I guess we will see if the show will have the impact Sony wants.
Why would a 3rd release of a game sell the same as the original release? The game wasn't cheap but it also wasn't nearly as expensive as all AAA out there. It had no new motion capture, no facial mocap, no new lines recorded, no new level design, nothing. It was basically a better looking TLOU game from the PS3 era with PS4/PS5 visuals and some TLOU2 mechanics included.

Let's not pretend Sony won't recoup the costs for this with a couple millions sold lol.
 
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jroc74

Phone reception is more important to me than human rights
Its clear sony has been undervaluing the ps5 based on the price increase globally. People are still paying reseller prices for them.

And spider-man and miles morales despite being on ps plus extra is still selling like crazy, even before Miles PC release. They are gonna cross 40 before the end of the year
Yeah, the Spider-Man games charting is interesting.
It’s behind only to all the multiplatform sports games and second to Splatoon 3 that is the fastest selling on a console that sold 120 million copies. It’s a mature game on a platform that’s still facing stock issues. At a premium price. A remake that “no one needed and was overpriced”. There’s nothing to decide. The market bought it.
I expected some to try to downplay TLoU part 1 spot, lol.
 
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Nautilus

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It’s behind only to all the multiplatform sports games and second to Splatoon 3 that is the fastest selling on a console that sold 120 million copies. It’s a mature game on a platform that’s still facing stock issues. At a premium price. A remake that “no one needed and was overpriced”. There’s nothing to decide. The market bought it.
PS5 is already at what, 30 million units? Doubt that would have been an impediment for THE marquee Sony franchise.

And Splatoon outsold it without digital, which should represent half of the game's sales. And if the Nintendo games had its digital sales represented there, it would probably have been behind Mario Kart too.

Plus, like I said to the other user, 10 dollars don't offset the drop in overall sales. Sony isn't here to lose money. Everything, and not just the US, points to the fact that TLOU 1 Remake first month sales was MUCH decreased from the original and the second game.

Sony is probably counting on the PC version and the show to regain some of the lost faith on the franchise that TLOU 2 burned to a crisp. Guess we will see.
 

Nautilus

Banned
Why would a 3rd release of a game sell the same as the original release? The game wasn't cheap but it also wasn't nearly as expensive as all AAA out there. It had no new motion capture, no facial mocap, no new lines recorded, no new level design, nothing. It was basically a better looking TLOU game from the PS3 era with PS4/PS5 visuals and some TLOU2 mechanics included.

Let's not pretend Sony won't recoup the costs for this with a couple millions sold lol.
It wouldn't, but then that begs the question: Why was this necessary? It still needs to be profitable, and so far it doesn't seem to be the case. And Sony, or no other company in fact, wants to just recoup the costs. It wants to significantly profit. Assuming it has to sell 3 million units at full price to recoup, these kind of expensive projects needs to sell at least double that to make financial sense.(just am example)

And while I do think it will eventually reach that, even with the gigantic damage that the second game did, its not like Sony did all that,spend money and time that could have been funelled into a third game or a new IP, just to make a bit of money, especially when the original game is readily available on the PS5.
 
It wouldn't, but then that begs the question: Why was this necessary? It still needs to be profitable, and so far it doesn't seem to be the case. And Sony, or no other company in fact, wants to just recoup the costs. It wants to significantly profit. Assuming it has to sell 3 million units at full price to recoup, these kind of expensive projects needs to sell at least double that to make financial sense.(just am example)

And while I do think it will eventually reach that, even with the gigantic damage that the second game did, its not like Sony did all that,spend money and time that could have been funelled into a third game or a new IP, just to make a bit of money, especially when the original game is readily available on the PS5.
So we agree...good.

Anyway...Factions, TV show, probably with multiple seasons...this will probably end up selling more with the remake than the original PS3 release in the end. The idea that games need to sell every unit on day one to be a hit needs to be over. This remake is a long term plan for Sony and it's obvious.
 

Nautilus

Banned
So we agree...good.

Anyway...Factions, TV show, probably with multiple seasons...this will probably end up selling more with the remake than the original PS3 release in the end. The idea that games need to sell every unit on day one to be a hit needs to be over. This remake is a long term plan for Sony and it's obvious.
Obviously?No company makes a game in the hopes that it bombs lol

Nothing is pointing to the success that Sony or the fans in this forum hoped it to be. Even though first month sales are important for the game's long term sucess, there is still a lot comming to change things in its favor(PC version, show). So we will see
 

jroc74

Phone reception is more important to me than human rights
PS5 is already at what, 30 million units? Doubt that would have been an impediment for THE marquee Sony franchise.

And Splatoon outsold it without digital, which should represent half of the game's sales. And if the Nintendo games had its digital sales represented there, it would probably have been behind Mario Kart too.

Plus, like I said to the other user, 10 dollars don't offset the drop in overall sales. Sony isn't here to lose money. Everything, and not just the US, points to the fact that TLOU 1 Remake first month sales was MUCH decreased from the original and the second game.

Sony is probably counting on the PC version and the show to regain some of the lost faith on the franchise that TLOU 2 burned to a crisp. Guess we will see.
Alrighty then....
 
This seems like a decent quarter for PS5 from the data we do have, last quarter was 2.4m and i think this quarter (July to September) will be over 3m perhaps around 3.2m. Just hope Sony have plenty of stock for the holiday quarter, i'm hoping for 7.5m at least.

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Nautilus

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Fixed that for you. Most awarded game in videogame history, revered by every developer in the planet. You’re coming off as insecure and wishing the title fails to accommodate your fragility. Get a grip, man.
TLOU 2 is one of the most hated games in history, by fans and youtube reviewers that are not beheld on giving out good scores just so they are not blacklisted.

TLOU 2 greatly damaged the franchise reputation, and that's just a fact. There isn't greater proof than sales numbers, and TLOU 2 selling slower than the first one(and at a lower price) and now the TLOU 1 Remake doing "okay" are further proof of that.
 

SLB1904

Banned
TLOU 2 is one of the most hated games in history, by fans and youtube reviewers that are not beheld on giving out good scores just so they are not blacklisted.

TLOU 2 greatly damaged the franchise reputation, and that's just a fact. There isn't greater proof than sales numbers, and TLOU 2 selling slower than the first one(and at a lower price) and now the TLOU 1 Remake doing "okay" are further proof of that.
It's all in your head mate
 

TLZ

Banned
But someone here told me that the PS5 had no chance at all at being on top in September due to Splatoon 3 and the bundles.
Forget those idiots. Some of them are extremely fanboyish who think anything Nintendo does is gold and everything else don't even compare. Too blind and exaggerate everything.
 
No wonder Jim is taking the piss with the pricing. Shit won't stop selling

Man gran turismo and Horizon did great throughout the year. I'm glad npd doesn't count bundles. If it did! fuck sake

With bundles HFW would probably be #2 or #3 best-selling for the year. Pretty good for a supposed "failure" (well, that's what some folks kept trying to push in spite of all evidence otherwise) 😂
 

skit_data

Member
TLOU1 Remake charting just shows how out of sync most of us are with the general audience. Lots of complaints from some, a ”I’ll buy it when it’s on a discount” from me personally and it’s still charting just like any other big 1st party game.
 

Interfectum

Member
TLOU 1 Remake did well, but NOWHERE near as well as some people here hoped for.Like many of us has been saying for a long ass time, this remake was utterly unecessary.

PC will be the to decide if this game's sales will be underwhelming or not. Guess we will see.
We don't know that yet. Seems like Sony is prepping this game to potentially capitalize on the HBO show's success should it happen. Expect to see bundles and deals around the show launch.
 

Nautilus

Banned
We don't know that yet. Seems like Sony is prepping this game to potentially capitalize on the HBO show's success should it happen. Expect to see bundles and deals around the show launch.
Yeah. Like I said, the PC Version and the show is what will make the game's sales numbers really shine. We will see.

Do we know when the show's releasing?
 

Nautilus

Banned
oh you mean its on one console that has sold what again?

did you expect every PS5 owner to buy it?

Also, do you have the sales numbers on hand to share since you're so confident?
And you, do you have the numbers to share, to be so confident to say its doing as well as Sony wanted?

Because every single sign(US, UK and Japan charts) points to the fact that the game is doing okay, but far below previous entries
 

tmlDan

Member
And you, do you have the numbers to share, to be so confident to say its doing as well as Sony wanted?

Because every single sign(US, UK and Japan charts) points to the fact that the game is doing okay, but far below previous entries
You did not address any of my questions, i never made any assumptions about sales and expectations like you did.

Drop it.
 
lol at ‘some’ people still trying to downplay TLOU1 charting at number 5 behind brand new games and multiplatform sports titles, as a 70 dollar game.

The game was never meant to set charts on fire. Sony barely did any marketing for it, it got no big SoP, no ads or commercials, no additional marketing tie ins anywhere outside of the firefly bundles, etc. it was treated about the same way Sony treats their pc ports. It got announced and released within the span of two months.

Here is Hermen Hulst head of Playstation studios talking about all the upcoming big releases last summer, notice anything missing?

As we assured you before with our plans to bring select titles to PC, our efforts beyond console in no way diminish our commitment to the PlayStation community, nor our passion to keep making amazing single-player, narrative-driven experiences. It’s been a tremendous year for games on PS5 and PS4, with huge releases including HorizonForbidden West, Gran Turismo 7, MLB The Show 22, and on November 9th, the highly anticipated God of War: Ragnarök. PlayStation VR2 is also on the horizon, and promises a huge leap forward in presence and immersion, bolstered by best-in-class software like Horizon: Call of the Mountain. We’re proud of our releases on PC as well, with Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered and the upcoming Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection giving gamers without PlayStation hardware a taste of our amazing library of first-party titles.

He even mentioned the PC Ports as significant releases. The fact is Sony can put out a remake of a game, with no big push for people to buy it and it will still be one of the best selling games of the month. Thats brand power

The salt of The Last of Us franchise is only going to get worse for some of you next year after the tv show and Factions. It’s probably gonna fuck around and win a couple emmys on top of it
 
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It was also a complete turd of a game, previews and reviews show as much. You can find the TLOU sales impressive, I simply disagree.

I see the failed narrative at insinuating HFW was a failure now has to be applied to TLOU Part 1 Remake. The cycle begins anew; same results. Let's just skip to the end credits 😂

lol at ‘some’ people still trying to downplay TLOU1 charting at number 5 behind brand new games and multiplatform sports titles, as a 70 dollar game.

The game was never meant to set charts on fires, sony barely did any marketing for it, it got no big SoP, no ads or commercials, no additional marketing tie ins anywhere outside of the firefly bundles, etc. it was treated about the same way Sony treats their pc ports. It got announced and released within the span of two months.

Here is Hermen Hulst head of Playstation studios talking about all the upcoming big releases last summer, notice anything missing?



He even mentioned the PC Ports as significant releases. The fact is Sony can put out a remake of a game, with no big push for people to buy it and it will still be one of the best selling games of the month. Thats brand power

The salt of The Last of Us franchise is only going to get worse for some of you next year after the tv show and Factions. It’s probably gonna fuck around and win a couple emmys on top of it

It's okay. There always has to be a narrative against at least one Sony 1P AAA game, one has to seemingly fail. Tried it with HFW; failed. Tried it with GT7; mostly failed (the MTX situation is kinda sus in that game TBH). Trying it now on TLOU Part 1 because it's their last chance this year. GOW Ragnarok repels fake narratives simply with its aura.
 
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Chiggs

Member
When they insisted The Last Of Us remake wouldn't sell.

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It makes me really want to go back through my posts and start calling out some of these nimrods. Just so I can watch them move the chains...again.

First it was, OMG IT ONLY CHARTED AS #1 IN THE UK AND ONLY DID HALF OF SAINTS ROW!

What other excuses will they pull from their asses now?

The salt of The Last of Us franchise is only going to get worse for some of you next year after the tv show and Factions. It’s probably gonna fuck around and win a couple emmys on top of it

Don't even worry about all that just yet...think of the numbers it will do this fall/winter alone. :messenger_grinning_sweat:
 
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Pelta88

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It makes me really want to go back through my posts and start calling out some of these nimrods. Just so I can watch them move the chains...again.

First it was, OMG IT ONLY CHARTED AS #1 IN THE UK AND ONLY DID HALF OF SAINTS ROW!

What other excuses will they pull from their asses now?

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Let them keep fighting greatness.
 

Mr Hyde

Member
TLOU 2 is one of the most hated games in history, by fans and youtube reviewers that are not beheld on giving out good scores just so they are not blacklisted.

TLOU 2 greatly damaged the franchise reputation, and that's just a fact. There isn't greater proof than sales numbers, and TLOU 2 selling slower than the first one(and at a lower price) and now the TLOU 1 Remake doing "okay" are further proof of that.

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Fucking embarrassing to read garbage hot takes like this.
 

GHG

Gold Member
I just always find the "we winning" mentality odd when it comes to sport teams or brands the people aren't even a part of. No offense meant, just something I don't get, maybe I don't have the level of brand devotion others have.

Unless you're a stock holder than I can see why you'd have stake in them doing well.

You're sitting there writing paragraphs about the use of dj khaled gifs.

Don't take things so seriously and you will start to see things for what they are.
 
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