RoadHazard
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And here I thought Phil was on our side and only wanted everyone to have fun together.
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Microsoft Raising Prices on New, First-Party Games Built for Xbox Series X|S to $70 in 2023
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rickybooby87
Member
This would have never happened under the tutelage of Senpai Don Mattrick. Phil has got to go.
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Thirty7ven
Banned
Reading some of the green team replies almost makes you believe that the only option for PlayStation owners are 70$ games. The amount of bs some of you try to feed people online is insane.
PS+ essential has a bunch of games, including first party ps5 games. You can also you know, take advantage of the constant sales going on and not pay 70$ for games. Considering how many PlayStation gamers buy, it doesn’t seem like there are a lack of options.
One look at 22 and it’s easy to see that if you paid 120$ on the promise of first party day and date releases… you got ripped off. And for 120$ you could’ve probably owned every single game released on GP in 22 that is worth its weight. Congrats, you played yourself.
PS+ essential has a bunch of games, including first party ps5 games. You can also you know, take advantage of the constant sales going on and not pay 70$ for games. Considering how many PlayStation gamers buy, it doesn’t seem like there are a lack of options.
One look at 22 and it’s easy to see that if you paid 120$ on the promise of first party day and date releases… you got ripped off. And for 120$ you could’ve probably owned every single game released on GP in 22 that is worth its weight. Congrats, you played yourself.
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Thebonehead
Banned
Next price hike
How did you get access to Jim Ryan's webcam?
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Not even that long in many cases.
Roberts
Member
You're missing one zero, Howard Ratner.
Ass of Can Whooping
Banned
My best advice I can give to everyone is just don't be poor
No need to thank me
No need to thank me
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
On PC you can always find a sale price, day one.
True. I often ordered via GMG where they offered 20-25% discounts for pre-orders. Haven't pre-ordered anything for a while now so I don't know if they still do that.
Thirty7ven
Banned
You are out of your mind. I just looked over 22’s gamepass additions, and if you think you need 1200$ to play the good ones then you are just stupid.
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Roberts
Member
I rather be stupid and enjoy around 35 very good GP games that I have completed this year and at least 10 more that are ongoing experiences than be on every xbox tread and act like a triggered dick.
Thirty7ven
Banned
You haven’t countered my argument at all so stay stupid.
Roberts
Member
You said 120 bucks worth of good stuff. I said there is so much more. If you are narrow-minded and think GP this year released 120$ worth of games then it is a You problem, because it is clearly not the true. I know you feel threatened by the fact that GP has great value, but you don't use it so stop telling people what it is worth.
PixelatedBeast
Member
Topher
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Ezekiel_
Banned
Don't forget to thank MS!
wipeout364
Member
I am not surprised given the current inflation levels. What is not going up?
The problem is everyone is going to be clamoring for wage increases which will further exacerbate the problem. I would not be surprised to see Sony raise prices further since they increased prices when inflation was flat.
The problem is everyone is going to be clamoring for wage increases which will further exacerbate the problem. I would not be surprised to see Sony raise prices further since they increased prices when inflation was flat.
Chukhopops
Member
There have been +/- 200 games added to GP just this year. If you only found 2-3 worth their weight then your taste is just really narrow.
Just accept it and buy the few things you like instead of insulting others? This kind of service isn’t for you.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Well MS did increase the games from $50 to $60 when they launched the 360. Now they are tied.
ProtoByte
Member
You can be as tired of it as you want, but it displays a lack of perspective on your part that it has to be said.
Again: Record profits are affected by inflation as much as any other income, and also the whole point of running and expanding the business; especially in terms of a luxury medium like gaming. They don't "need" record profits any more than you "need" to be playing larger, longer games at a higher fidelity.
This is about return on investments. The more they put in, the more they expect to get out.
Funny and good thing is that the majority of the market seems to understand this. Why we're still having this discussion on an enthusiast forum escapes me.
Venom Snake
Member
I'm not surprised at all. They did what they had to do. 
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I've not defended MS here in any way outside of I understand the inflation thing, but it's still. Bullshit.
I used to get aunt Bessie's jam roll poly for £1 it's now £2.50 in the UK! Fucking insanity I tell you.
My point I was attempting to make but poorly is that the back and forth seems to be driven by posters who are happy to pay £70 for games. MS prepped everyone for price increases and they've followed through.
I'm not gonna pay the 70 squid, nothing ironic or hypocritical from me. I still refuse to pay 70 for a game.
All I said is luckily I have game pass which means I avoid these costs and can still play day one MS games then pick them up later if I desire.
Is there anything else hypocritical I've said?
Pelta88
Member
Can someone do a welfare check on
DarkMage619
DarkMage619
Utherellus
Member
Guys I have one question that is burning my brain alive lol. Maybe it's stupid but help me out here please.
I was thinking about this price increase noise and here is what I don't clearly understand:
So game pricetag in 2005 was 60$ right? Nearly 90$ with inflation.
Game development was cheaper. Ambitions were lower. Hiring people was cheaper.
So now they ask for 70$
Does this fact show that gamedev business profit margin had suuuuch a big headstart for all these years, that despite fixed pricetag, it's finally now - only after 15 years companies aren't happy with it?
Wasn't 60$ already intensely high price to begin with? Did they make it 60$ on purpose to be future proof? And have we been overpaying this entire time lol?
I was thinking about this price increase noise and here is what I don't clearly understand:
So game pricetag in 2005 was 60$ right? Nearly 90$ with inflation.
Game development was cheaper. Ambitions were lower. Hiring people was cheaper.
So now they ask for 70$
Does this fact show that gamedev business profit margin had suuuuch a big headstart for all these years, that despite fixed pricetag, it's finally now - only after 15 years companies aren't happy with it?
Wasn't 60$ already intensely high price to begin with? Did they make it 60$ on purpose to be future proof? And have we been overpaying this entire time lol?
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Topher
Gold Member
I mean.....you are an Xbox fan wagging your finger at the hypocrisy of Sony fans while ignoring the hypocrisy of Xbox fans.
TheTony316
Member
Value is subjective. I'd rather pay 70€ to play something like God of War over paying 15€ a month for Pentiment and Scorn.
Ezekiel_
Banned
clarky
Gold Member
The war just one of many factors driving inflation, the fact that prices are up is the very definition of inflation.
DeepEnigma
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
If you have GP it's automatically on sale for $56. Best of both worlds.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Why would you think that? Literally no one's ever said that.
sainraja
Member
That is what it comes down to basically. It highly depends on someone's gaming habits. If someone is only interested in two of those games and likes to own, they are looking at $150 vs $180.
Gaming subscriptions, like subs for music/movies could get everyone used to the idea that they don't need to own their games....which is already happening on one side of gaming.
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Nah. They are prepping for the AB multiplatform future.
sainraja
Member
Microsoft isn't abandoning game sales and they are still part of the gaming business as a publisher. This wasn't an EA, Ubisoft, Sony thing. This has been an industry thing. Microsoft is just now officially recognizing the price increase. They were also late to do so when we went from $49.99 to $59.99 — back then, the promise was, all MS first party games would be $49.99 but it didn't last long.
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CuteFaceJay
Member
Not end of the world, I'm trying to figure out how to stock up the fridge & have the heating on this winter.
Kerotan
Member
It always was and it's in the best interests of the industry.
BabyfaceRe
Member
Just once it would be nice to get some transparency around the decision making. It is for greed, plain and simple.
Its disappointing that MS is continuing the lie that this is to compensate for the vast improvements in next-gen games. It's truly embarrassing that they think flicking the switch for 4k/60fps is worth a 30% price hike. Not to mention that the highest spec games have always been the cheapest historically speaking, they are called PC games.
I'm sure that Series Forza will be like an entirely different game to the Xone version. I'm sure there will be a boatload of new features, mechanics, expanded gameplay etc.......I'm sure..............(I tried being more sarcastic but it physically hurt)
Seriously curious as to when lying for monetary gain, stop being labelled fraud.
Its disappointing that MS is continuing the lie that this is to compensate for the vast improvements in next-gen games. It's truly embarrassing that they think flicking the switch for 4k/60fps is worth a 30% price hike. Not to mention that the highest spec games have always been the cheapest historically speaking, they are called PC games.
I'm sure that Series Forza will be like an entirely different game to the Xone version. I'm sure there will be a boatload of new features, mechanics, expanded gameplay etc.......I'm sure..............(I tried being more sarcastic but it physically hurt)
Seriously curious as to when lying for monetary gain, stop being labelled fraud.
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Punished Miku
Gold Member
Yep, always was. Redfall isn't 30% more technically demanding than Deathloop. Just BS. I've always said it's BS.
With all $70 games, I try to buy as few as possible. Gamepass will help me not buy most of these for now. So far I think I've bought: Demon's Souls, GOW Ragnarok, um .... that might be it unless I'm forgetting some. I'll probably get FFXVI. Most $70 stuff I wait for a price drop. I've never once bought their excuses on this.
Havoc2049
Member
You forgot the console versions of Age of Empires II and Age of Empires IV. Next year looks to be great. Not sure about Avowed though, as AAA open world RPGs take a while to develop.
We'll also hear more about the AAA steampunk RPG that InXile has been working on for the last 3+ years. I have a feeling once we have a name and a trailer, it might only be a year out from release. I'm actually glad MS/InXile didn't release a teaser trailer a few years back when they released all those teaser trailers for Perfect Dark, Avowed, Fable, etc.
Jormatar
Member
No one pays 70 dollars for Halo Infinite or Microsoft Flying Simulator. But I bet many people will buy Starfield for 70 dollars.
Xbox knew they weren't in a position to ask extra for their lackluster games couple of years ago. Also, it was great PR to hold it for couple of years. You already see people claiming Xbox to be some kind of fallen hero who tried to fight the evil for as long as they could but eventually even they had to succumb to evil and increase the price of their games lol.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Halo Infinite Campaign, Forza Horizon 5, Psychonauts 2, Flight Simulator are all first party releases from Microsoft. Skyrim Anniversary Edition and Age of Empires 4. I can go on.