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noonjam

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https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...-in-72-newly-released-range-incursion-reports

Tic Tac UAP Incident Included In Newly Released Range Incursion Reports​

The recently released Navy ‘range fouler’ reports are heavily redacted, but still contain new details and insights.


The U.S. Navy has released 72 heavily redacted reports regarding unidentified aircraft and other objects that its pilots encountered during various training sorties and other flight activities between 2004 and 2021. This includes a report on what is now a very well-known, compelling, and so far unexplained incident off the coast of Mexico in 2004 involving an unidentified object commonly referred to as the "Tic Tac" due to its general shape and color, which you can read more about in this past War Zone feature.
 

Grildon Tundy

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Has anyone seen The Phenomenon? Superb documentary.

I think most UFO material is quite frankly garbage but this was a compelling watch.
I have! And I couldn't remember what it was called.

This is the doc you show to people who don't believe there's something going on. It sticks to facts and believeable human testimonials. I don't know how you walk away having seem this one and say, "Meh, probably swamp gas and weather balloons." Fantastic doc.
 

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Does Anyone wonder why all the sudden this UFO/UAP(LOL) phenomena hits the mainstream? Why does former fringe researcher Hancock gets a AAA production level series on Netflix all the sudden?
 
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Grildon Tundy

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Does Anyone wonder why all the sudden this UFO/UAP(LOL) phenomena hits the mainstream? Why does former fringe researcher Hancock gets a AAA production level series on Netflix all the sudden?
Personally, this is what public disclosure would look like if I were in charge and wanted to avoid mass panic and society upheaval. Slow rollout and quiet normalization
 

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https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zo...-in-72-newly-released-range-incursion-reports

Tic Tac UAP Incident Included In Newly Released Range Incursion Reports​

The recently released Navy ‘range fouler’ reports are heavily redacted, but still contain new details and insights.

Broaden your paradigm and realise these crafts could've been here for thousands of years.

Redacted. Why? We as the people can't have full access?

Vatican library which could and does hold so many answers to our real history. Forbidden. Makes sense.

In regards to Mr. Graham who's now buddy buddy with Mike Tyson.

 

Grildon Tundy

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Hard to interpret your post..Sorry
I think I know where you were going, no worries. Hard to tell why it's really happening. Could be as simple as there's a market for it now, considering Hancock's been on Joe Rogan a bunch in the past decade and is a known entity where he wasn't before.
 

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I think I know where you were going, no worries. Hard to tell why it's really happening. Could be as simple as there's a market for it now, considering Hancock's been on Joe Rogan a bunch in the past decade and is a known entity where he wasn't before.

I feel it's laying the groundwork for a narrative. Thanks for your patience.

I know it's a lot of investment but try that video I posted.
Dude knows his history.
 
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Grildon Tundy

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I feel it's laying the groundwork for a narrative. Thanks for your patience.

I know it's a lot of investment but try that video I posted.
Dude knows his history.
Stupid question, but is Graham the guy in that video with the deep, kind of Southern voice? Or is he doing a summary on Graham Hancock?

Edit: nevermind, its the latter
 
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Stupid question, but is Graham the guy in that video with the deep, kind of Southern voice? Or is he doing a summary on Graham Hancock?

Not stupid. Just suprised you haven't seen/heard of Hancock. No the "Southern" dude invalidates Hancocks work. He's very critical but not personal. Good sign otherwise I wouldn't watch it. Facts
 
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Grildon Tundy

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Broaden your paradigm and realise these crafts could've been here for thousands of years.

Redacted. Why? We as the people can't have full access?

Vatican library which could and does hold so many answers to our real history. Forbidden. Makes sense.

In regards to Mr. Graham who's now buddy buddy with Mike Tyson.


I watched the first 20 minutes and have to jump to a meeting. But in those 20 minutes...he received a new book, talked about how Moscow, Texas is a Russian colony and about how he has a crossbow. Nothing about "alternative" history in detail yet. You got a timestamp, brudda?
 

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I watched the first 20 minutes and have to jump to a meeting. But in those 20 minutes...he received a new book, talked about how Moscow, Texas is a Russian colony and about how he has a crossbow. Nothing about "alternative" history in detail yet. You got a timestamp, brudda?

Hahahaha

Nope. Just skip a bit.

Sorry about that
 

noonjam

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https://www.liberationtimes.com/hom...d-at-united-nations-for-first-time-since-1978

Project Titan Approved By San Marino: UFOs Set To Be Discussed At United Nations For First Time Since 1978

Today, the Parliament of San Marino voted in favour to participate in Project Titan, meaning San Marino will submit a proposal to the UN for the creation of a permanent office tasked with the preparation of periodic global conferences dedicated to the scientific study of UFOs, otherwise known as Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP).

The proposal will now be submitted to the UN’s Secretary General before undergoing a preliminary examination and discussion. Following this, the proposal would be submitted to a vote at the General Assembly.

If successfully passed, the United Nations would run the new office which organises periodic conferences hosted by San Marino, becoming the Geneva of global UAP studies. The conferences would be accessible to private and state-backed researchers and organisations.

Also known as Project Titan, the proposal was created and managed by Paolo Guizzardi on behalf of the Centro Ufologico Nazionale of Italy (CUN), Italy’s main Ufological organization and the International Coalition for Extraterrestrial Research (ICER).
 

Grildon Tundy

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The disclosure is coming guys, any day now



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Not sure if you're serious or if this is a "nothing ever happens" post. Either way, I'd say we're closer to a disclosure than ever before!
 

jufonuk

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What happened to open minds radio ?
Seems like it stopped in 2021. Cannot find any Information.
 
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StormCell

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Does Anyone wonder why all the sudden this UFO/UAP(LOL) phenomena hits the mainstream? Why does former fringe researcher Hancock gets a AAA production level series on Netflix all the sudden?
Always follow the money. The reason why the topic has shifted from the fringe to the mainstream is because some people with money began to apply pressure (politically as well as through lobbying of representatives) for more transparency and accountability. It's not 4D chess.

I also find your need to reply to every person with leading questions is kind of annoying to scroll through. I think we all get what you think. We don't need condescension and constant pestering to be aware of this. Sure, maybe it's all one big government conspiracy for military spending. Or maybe they're prparing us for one huge false flag alien invasion that requires all of us to mask up and shut off all our power so we don't get blown up by the aliens. Maybe they plan to hit us with microwave ray guns every time we fart or emit CO2 because it attracts more aliens... I don't know... I kind of think the damn things have been living here on our planet with us for a very damn long time and some people have known about it and have stories of incidents they're keeping locked up because it might send us into a war with these things and maybe they're just hoping and praying the damn creatures stay deep in our oceans given the technological prowess they've demonstrated. Again, I don't know...

Point is that there's a lot of potentially valid possibilities, and nothing is really off the table, yet, with this topic. Could be aliens from another solar system. Could be beings from another dimension. Could be another intelligent race of creatures from right here on Earth. Maybe they originate from Mars. Maybe it will be smoke and holograms in a huge elitist globalist conspiracy. I'll be sus if the aliens are angry because of climate change, though. lol
 
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MilkyJoe

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I think on some level everyone knows it’s happening. So when they finally admit it unless it impacts their lives I think most people will just shrug and go ok

I think it's a case of most people won't believe it until they see it, then they will shit themselves and have a hard time getting on with their lives.
 

pramod

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I don't think we will ever get direct evidence of aliens/whatever, but when you look at how the world has evolved in the last few decades, you get the feeling there is more going on behind the scenes than we are told.

For example, I find it surprising that nuclear war hasn't broken out yet...and even stranger, the major powers seem to be less focused on nuclear weapons and ICBMs as they used to. The # of nuke stockpiles have been dropping like a rock. Yeah our leaders claim that they are trying to make the world more "safe", but I don't believe that.

My own sneaky suspicion is that "they" already know about, or have access to, technology much more powerful than nukes. Or can easily neutralize nukes/ICBMs. Technology that makes nukes look like a fucking joke in comparison. All this crap about trying to de-nuclearize...the Iran nuke deal etc...is just a facade.
 
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MilkyJoe

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I don't think we will ever get direct evidence of aliens/whatever, but when you look at how the world has evolved in the last few decades, you get the feeling there is more going on behind the scenes than we are told.

For example, I find it surprising that nuclear war hasn't broken out yet...and even stranger, the major powers seem to be less focused on nuclear weapons and ICBMs as they used to. The # of nuke stockpiles have been dropping like a rock. Yeah our leaders claim that they are trying to make the world more "safe", but I don't believe that.

My own sneaky suspicion is that "they" already know about, or have access to, technology much more powerful than nukes. Or can easily neutralize nukes/ICBMs. Technology that makes nukes look like a fucking joke in comparison. All this crap about trying to de-nuclearize...the Iran nuke deal etc...is just a facade.

There wont be a nuke war, whatever is going on in the world right now they are all in on it
 

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Sorry for my posts last night guys. I'll try to behave. I'm sure nobody cares anyway but still.

I also find your need to reply to every person with leading questions is kind of annoying to scroll through. I think we all get what you think. We don't need condescension and constant pestering to be aware of this.

Again my apologies. It's not my intend to come across as condescending or pestering.

I sometimes get frustrated and carried away because a thread about UFO's and aliens could be more than what I typically come across here. I won't pretend I haven't read the room for a good while. And I'm mostly screaming into a void which I should refrain from. Point taken.

At least Grildon Tundy Grildon Tundy wanted to exchange some ideas.

Sorry for given the bad vibes StormCell StormCell
 
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StormCell

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Again my apologies. It's not my intend to come across as condescending or pestering.

I sometimes get frustrated and carried away because a thread about UFO's and aliens could be more than what I typically come across here. I won't pretend I haven't read the room for a good while. And I'm mostly screaming into a void which I should refrain from. Point taken.

At least Grildon Tundy Grildon Tundy wanted to exchange some ideas.

Sorry for given the bad vibes StormCell StormCell
I think we're all open to the full gambit of ideas. I mean the full gambit. I'm reading about orbs that our military drones are seeing and surveilling that zip and zag, sit still for hours doing who knows what, and then zip away instantly at velocities we can't muster. If everything being rumored from our armed forces is accurate, we're not sure what sort of technology we're witnessing or if it is even technological in the same sense as our technology meaning it could be something far more mysterious than what we've presumed it to be.

Frankly, some people far more in the know seem convinced that it is maybe so far beyond our technology that it may be mystical or biblical compared with us and our machines. I've heard rumors that the highest ranks of our military are.... well, let's just leave it at the word biblical. As in, things you read about in the Bible would appear to cooberate whatever it is we're seeing.

So, yes, here for thousands of years probably. What they are? Could be anything. I've heard descriptions of some sort of living machine and that the occupants/pilots are biologically manufactured drones and not beings with free will--think biological robots. The craft we're hearing about such as the tic tac are intelligent craft that aren't unlike the rovers and satellites we send into space. If the origin of these objects is from a planet in another star system, then it almost has to make sense that everything we're seeing are things that either don't age or are easily manufactured here and are not the senders themselves.

On the other hand, reports on object behavior sound so fantastic that we may well be living in a simulation and encountering avatars of the simulation owner. In that sense, biblical once again makes sense.
 

Grildon Tundy

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I think we're all open to the full gambit of ideas. I mean the full gambit. I'm reading about orbs that our military drones are seeing and surveilling that zip and zag, sit still for hours doing who knows what, and then zip away instantly at velocities we can't muster. If everything being rumored from our armed forces is accurate, we're not sure what sort of technology we're witnessing or if it is even technological in the same sense as our technology meaning it could be something far more mysterious than what we've presumed it to be.

Frankly, some people far more in the know seem convinced that it is maybe so far beyond our technology that it may be mystical or biblical compared with us and our machines. I've heard rumors that the highest ranks of our military are.... well, let's just leave it at the word biblical. As in, things you read about in the Bible would appear to cooberate whatever it is we're seeing.

So, yes, here for thousands of years probably. What they are? Could be anything. I've heard descriptions of some sort of living machine and that the occupants/pilots are biologically manufactured drones and not beings with free will--think biological robots. The craft we're hearing about such as the tic tac are intelligent craft that aren't unlike the rovers and satellites we send into space. If the origin of these objects is from a planet in another star system, then it almost has to make sense that everything we're seeing are things that either don't age or are easily manufactured here and are not the senders themselves.

On the other hand, reports on object behavior sound so fantastic that we may well be living in a simulation and encountering avatars of the simulation owner. In that sense, biblical once again makes sense.
Yo, you got any deets or references on the high-ranking military stuff? "Conspiracy" theories are already like catnip. Add in biblical and I'm 100%

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I think we're all open to the full gambit of ideas. I mean the full gambit. I'm reading about orbs that our military drones are seeing and surveilling that zip and zag, sit still for hours doing who knows what, and then zip away instantly at velocities we can't muster. If everything being rumored from our armed forces is accurate, we're not sure what sort of technology we're witnessing or if it is even technological in the same sense as our technology meaning it could be something far more mysterious than what we've presumed it to be.

Frankly, some people far more in the know seem convinced that it is maybe so far beyond our technology that it may be mystical or biblical compared with us and our machines. I've heard rumors that the highest ranks of our military are.... well, let's just leave it at the word biblical. As in, things you read about in the Bible would appear to cooberate whatever it is we're seeing.

So, yes, here for thousands of years probably. What they are? Could be anything. I've heard descriptions of some sort of living machine and that the occupants/pilots are biologically manufactured drones and not beings with free will--think biological robots. The craft we're hearing about such as the tic tac are intelligent craft that aren't unlike the rovers and satellites we send into space. If the origin of these objects is from a planet in another star system, then it almost has to make sense that everything we're seeing are things that either don't age or are easily manufactured here and are not the senders themselves.

On the other hand, reports on object behavior sound so fantastic that we may well be living in a simulation and encountering avatars of the simulation owner. In that sense, biblical once again makes sense.
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Indeed.

But hey man sometimes i get frustrated because reasons and I can sound condescending without personal meaning but still...

Hope we can still get along here together.
 
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StormCell

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Yo, you got any deets or references on the high-ranking military stuff? "Conspiracy" theories are already like catnip. Add in biblical and I'm 100%

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I'm about to drive to the airport and fly up to Washington state, so give me a little time to come back to this and look through the stuff I've read. The biblical stuff comes from Elizondo and one other source that mentioned that the high ranking officials were "scared" and consider these things could be "demonic" but I'm heavily paraphrasing the statement. The way I have just worded it makes it sound like redneck fundies in the military are seeing science and calling it magic. lol
 

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It's a very very deep rabbitbole when considering we're operating from within a totally different presented reality(s) then a globe earth with space traveling aliens such as the moon map crater earth theory. The Archaix Simulacrum perspective, multiple grand scale resets of humans kind and so forth that all tie in with UFO etc phenomena.

My "mistake" is that imo those crafts are to be taken for granted and we're still trying to prove it via intended disclosure sources. That's gets under my skin. But I shouldn't use the tone you correctly say I use to express to thoughts.
 

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I'm about to drive to the airport and fly up to Washington state, so give me a little time to come back to this and look through the stuff I've read. The biblical stuff comes from Elizondo and one other source that mentioned that the high ranking officials were "scared" and consider these things could be "demonic" but I'm heavily paraphrasing the statement. The way I have just worded it makes it sound like redneck fundies in the military are seeing science and calling it magic. lol

There's also an esoteric part where there's an inversion of good and evil. Demonic <> Angelic.

Shits fucking mind bending

Save travels mate ..
 
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It's kinda funny to philosophize regarding UFO's.

There for real. Fact.

Origin... THERE is where is gets interesting for me.

Can't bother going into every possibility of origin because there are many. Still.

So many possibilities.

What's not to love right
 
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noonjam

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https://www.liberationtimes.com/hom...hadows-to-highlight-his-work-on-the-ufo-topic

The Pentagon’s Highest Ranking UFO Hunter Steps Out Of The Shadows To Highlight His Work On The UFO Topic​

Stratton is the only person from the U.S. federal government to have worked on all of the modern Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) programs and is the most senior figure directly involved to have spoken out, having held a rank comparable to a two-star Admiral.

"Jay Stratton was the U.S. government's top UFO hunter.
“He conducted the first in-depth investigation of the Tic Tac case, and is the only person in the entire government to work on all of the major UFO probes, including the DIA's ambitious program (AAWSAP), its successor (AATIP), and then the UAP Task Force which he created, organized, and directed before it was formally authorized by Congress.
“The classified briefing he wrote, narrated, and presented to key audiences is a primary reason why the newest program AARO was created.
“And unlike many of his former colleagues at DoD, Stratton believes the public has a right to know what's going on rather than the obfuscation, stonewalling, misleading statements, and strategic leaks to debunkers, all of which continue to muddy the UAP waters."
 
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Who are some good UFO personalities to follow on Twitter? I follow Jeremy Corbell, George Knapp, Joe Murgia and a few others but would like to know what you think.
 

Razvedka

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Personally, this is what public disclosure would look like if I were in charge and wanted to avoid mass panic and society upheaval. Slow rollout and quiet normalization
^ and they've not been shy about saying so. Elizondo has said repeatedly there's a '10 year' timeline for this topic starting in 2017. Last year (2022) he reiterated this, saying that people should 'just pick up a hobby for 5 years, and [it will all be out]'. Lue also elaborated in a separate interview, by saying that people can't handle everything being explained to them all at once. That you have to slowly feed it to them over time.

John Ramirez has vetted this recently, stating Elizondo is correct though he's said things are shifting and it may be 2026.

Liberation Times did an AMA on Reddit and stated in response to a question that there seemed to be a 'sense of urgency' to get this information out although they could not determine why.

And then finally you have cryptic remarks by scientist Eric Weinstein post-meeting with Elizondo. Going off of memory, he was asked on Twitter if he hopes that this subject would be explained in his lifetime. His response was: "You won't even have to wait that long".
 
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DosGamer

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I love watching the videos on youtube talking about peoples experiences. I am leaning more and more towards the thought of us being able to manipulate the world to meet our needs by focusing our energy and thoughts into making it happen. Now obviously just wanting something to happen cant make it happen, but willing something to happen may be able to and if can harness that ability.

I do also agree with leaking things slowly to help with the publics understanding.
 

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I love watching the videos on youtube talking about peoples experiences. I am leaning more and more towards the thought of us being able to manipulate the world to meet our needs by focusing our energy and thoughts into making it happen. Now obviously just wanting something to happen cant make it happen, but willing something to happen may be able to and if can harness that ability.

I do also agree with leaking things slowly to help with the publics understanding.

Regarding your last sentence; it's supposedly called predictive programming.

And yeah your thoughts manifest in behaviour which alters your interactions which could lead to... well, let's say different outcomes.

Regarding experiences. Shits bloated and you have to have to have a great gut feeling/sensitivity to recognize sincerity af first. Next step is more difficult imho. Simply said the REAL origin and intentions of said visitations. Not only the appearance off but also the process etc.

Fascinating nonetheless.
 

Ammogeddon

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I do also agree with leaking things slowly to help with the publics understanding.
I don’t buy this talk of governments withholding UAP information on the basis of it being “too much for people to understand”. It’ll be for other reasons such as economic well-being or tactical advantage.

As crazy as the revelation would be, the world will keep turning. I’m still going to work and paying my bills, unless the little green men are going to help out?

I’m fascinated with the subject but believe we don’t have a clue who or what it is at this moment in time.
 
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