Ar¢tos
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Gameplay? When did they show gameplay?
The last video I remember seeing was the announce video.
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The last video I remember seeing was the announce video.
Gavon West
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Yeah. I'm betting Spiderman 2 will take a hit if it's too close to Starfield. Just a huge, huge game incoming. Hype will be massive the week of release.No way they were going to model 1000 planets by hand. They're AI generated though against certain guardrails, and then devs go over each one to ensure they're good and consistent.
Looks like the best solution for having tons of extra planets to explore.
Spiderman 2 isn't releasing on any platform where you can play Starfield. No idea how your logic goes...that Steam or Xbox players will put down Starfield because of a PS5 exclusive title?
Gavon West
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You didn't see the cave troll clip? It was astonishing!
Gavon West
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You're wasting your time, then. When was the last time you beat a Bethesda game in a day?
Ar¢tos
Member
No. I was away from gaming for nearly 1 year, it might have released during that period. But YT searches only show the announce video.
Gavon West
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Team Andromeda
Member
It's not to beat the game, but rather play it !. I'm in my mid 40's and all I want to do after a 12hr shift is have my food and go to bed. Not be doing that come 6/9/2023 my stardate is all set
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Balducci30
Member
Does Microsoft themselves release bug free games? No.
Gavon West
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Hi Fi says Hi. Just off my head..
I’m not sure anybody releases bug free games, to be fair
Team Andromeda
Member
Does any corp? I'll give credit to Nintendo they're the best and limiting the bugs in their games and they're the best in the business at it, but even their games have bugs.
Also, I can't think of any openworld game that didn't ship with bugs, can you?
Ar¢tos
Member
A bit downgraded from the release trailer but that was expected. I hoped for more gameplay than in-rails running and throwing spears.
I wanted to see the combat to see how different (or evolved) it is from the first game.
Balducci30
Member
No, I am just setting expectations - people thinking Microsoft will suddenly make Bethesda studios release bug-free games is misguided imo
Balducci30
Member
That’s definitely not in the same ball park as a creation engine open world game tho - and didn’t it have several (admittedly minor) issues on release?
Team Andromeda
Member
I don't, but I also don't expect an open world game to be bug free either
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Show me where Starfield touched you."The Giant Hit" is still not able to get millions of views on the video, where they announce the most important thing - the release date
Balducci30
Member
Yes so that’s fine. I’m talking to the people who are acting like if this game isn’t bug free it’s some sorta disaster when it most assuredly will have bugs and that’s to be expected
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Stuart360
Member
Most games launch with bugs,especially open world games like this.
People are just getting excuses in so they can lable the game bad or a flop. They know there will be bugs, thats why they are saying stuff like that. Its cringy but fanboys will be fanboys.
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Nope. It doesn't mean that. They've got way more studios now, and need to sell more consoles, so they don't necessarily have to hold back software that's ready for release.
"The Giant Hit" is still not able to get millions of views on the video, where they announce the most important thing - the release date
And yet it's the top most wishlisted game on Steam.
You know, you could always save up the $249 and pick up a Series S so you don't have to make posts like this.
Xbox was the dominant launch week platform for Skyrim.
Steam is a much bigger platform these days, and Xbox consoles are significantly down over the Xbox 360 heydays, but I expect Starfield to sell very well on Xbox too...especially if the game lives up to expectations.
Fredrik
Member
Yeah I’m not saying it’ll bomb, just that I doubt we’ll see Skyrim sales numbers, I think a multiplat release is needed for that to happen.
Player numbers should be high though going by past big releases. Found a website that said FH5 player count was 28mil (!)
Stuart360
Member
Skyrim is 12 years old, has released on eevrything possible in those years, has had multiple different versions, and a couple of years ago hit around 40mil.
Of course Starfield isnt going to get those nuimbers. Its a new IP without a brand behind it, is only on 2 systems (3 if you could XSX and XSS as seperate), and is on Gamepass.
Like i said earlier in the thread, if 5 years from now Starfield has hit 20mil actual SALES (not player numbers)_, it will of done great.
Anyone saying otherwise is just talking bollocks for ulterior motives to be honest.
Riky
$MSFT
Yeah FH5 passed 28 million players some time ago, I think MS will be basing success on these sort of statistics rather than pure sales now Gamepass is over 25 million subs .
Obviously it will sell millions on Steam and they will if they have any sense release an upgrade option for Gamepass owners like they did for FH5 for early access and DLC. That did really well for FH5.
Jimmyisback
Banned
Very excited for this game. Gonna take two days off to power through it. Gonna be fun.
Fredrik
Member
Yeah they’ll be on Twitter posting the player count no doubt. It’s good PR. And yeah they should have a Deluxe Ultra Special Edition released a week or so earlier. Hopefully not just for GP users, I’ll be on Steam.
LordJohnWick
Member
I mean, at least we're not getting another Cyberpunk launch... Rather get a polished product.
diffusionx
Gold Member
I'm not saying this to port beg (I have a PC to play this if I want to), but I really do expect to see Starfield on Sony systems in the next five years. Hell maybe Nintendo too, depending on what their next console is like.
Now you will remember that Cyberpunk had multiple delays including some right up to release.
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Team Andromeda
Member
Then they are tossers and not gamers. No openworld game, ships without bugs and anyone who games, knows this to be true
Sybrix
Member
You're insane to think Bethesda will release a polished product at launch lol
Roberts
Member
They released a patch or two after the release, so I guess some people experienced tiny issues, but it is probably the most polished game I have played day1 in the recent years. Grounded 1.0 was also super polished.
Helghan
Member
How so? Something for the holidays?
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Elder Legend
Banned
Wrong forum buddy, Bryank75 is not here to protect you. Cope harder."The Giant Hit" is still not able to get millions of views on the video, where they announce the most important thing - the release date
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That’s extremely unlikely to happy, not least for the fact that it sends a certain message ahead of ES6 release.
But we’ll see.
Weird seeing all the talk of Cyberpunk. Even launch Skyrim at its most buggy didn’t arrive as broken as that title.
R3claimer117
Member
There’s no way on earth they’ll canibalize their first party games that. Way. Forza is probably the only other game that will release this year if ABK closes. Because you’ll have forza cod and starfeild to close the year. Everything else will be pushed to next year which makes sense hold hb2 back for top of 2024.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Sure, if MS moves to make these games multiplatform, ES6 which is probably a 2029-2031 game at this point, will be part of that.
I don't think Starfield will be as buggy as Cyberpunk, I am just saying that a delay does not equal polish.
March Climber
Member
If this game releases in a buggy state, then I will question why Fallout 76 exists. Because I've always considered that game as a necessary sacrifice/learning lesson for them to improve their ways to navigate around that engine as much as possible.
sendit
Member
No. Bug free games are rare:
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Elder Legend
Banned
What does a delay mean then? Finger twiddling for the fun of it rurijg the extra few months I guess...?
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30 million.... I just almost spit out my drink... no f way. If this was Elder Scrolls 6 MAYBE.... I just dont see it with Starfield.. I know a few people who like Elder Scrolls and Skyrim who dont care about Starfield because they dont care about the space sci fi setting
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Torrent of Pork
Banned
I put in a week of PTO, I don't even know if I'll scratch the surface.
Hell I still find new shit in vanilla Oblivion every time I give it a whirl.
BrutalTruth_
Banned
Never however I put 86 hours the first week of the Skyrim release, no regrets.
AeonGaidenRaiden
Member
Lets be clear here, yes a lot of games on release show up with bugs but most of those are minor that get fixed with day one patch etc. Bethesda games on the other hand, especially open world have such major bugs, some making the game unplayable and taking months to fix. Actually some they never fixed like in Skyrim when you climb the mountain to find the dragon which to this day doesn't spawn for most people without people reloading their save a few times. I don't expect squeaky clean games from day one but theres a difference in what a shitty state a game can come out (Fallout 76) and some tiny graphical glitch. It became a meme for Bethesda but that is not an excuse they cant deliver a mostly polished title,nor should they be left off the hook because "ahhh its normal its a Bethesda game", especially under MS eye.
CatLady
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Fallout 4 on the Xbox was by far the most bug-free big open world RPG I've ever played. FO:NV is actually the only BGS game that was a nightmare bug fest at launch for me, but that was developed by Obsidian not Bethesda.
I would be thrilled if this game is as stable as Fallout4 at launch.
Torrent of Pork
Banned
The worst bug I ever personally experienced in vanilla Skyrim was the Gaulder amulet not spawning. With FO4 my first save wouldn't interact with Automatron. With FO76 a few enemies didn't move during the beta. Add mods, and things can certainly go tits-up in a heartbeat, but the memes of vanilla BGS games being unplayable with constant gamebreaking bugs are simply untrue.
Are there bugs, certainly. I sure as hell don't see anybody else even attempting to make the kind of games BGS does though.
For the vast majority of players, Skyrim didn’t have bugs at launch that rendered the game ‘unplayable’.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
ES games will have bugs, but all Ive experienced were fixed loading an old saved game and redoing it.
My game came to a halt in Skyrim near the end when you trap that dragon in the castle trap. If I remember correctly to move the game along, one of the guards is supposed to say something and then you talk to the dragon.
But the guard never said anything aside from some canned one liners. So I rebooted the game and had to play that scene again and it worked.
Aside from that instance I dont think I had any gamebreaking bugs. Just the usual janky animations. Gamebreakers do come swift if you install too many shitty mods. One map mod that made it look better constantly crashed my game. So I had to delete it.
AeonGaidenRaiden
Member
You are missing the point....its a Bethesda game, yea we expect a lot of bugs...no, that is fucked up way of thinking. Why are people giving a hard time to other developers but because its Bethesda, yeah we are used to it so its funny. If that is the mentality people have, they will always put out unpolished games. Last time I checked, Fallout 76 was an absolute disaster on every front.
No, I think you’re missing the point.
They make massive, immersive open world games with tons of interactivity. It’s an extremely difficult task to eliminate all bugs during QA.
I doubt the guys at Bethesda want to make buggy games, and none of them are being ‘given a pass’. Their big RPGs get very good reviews because the underlying games are excellent, and people look past the bugs to find the fun.
PS: ‘absolute disaster on every front’ does not describe Fallout 76 at this moment.