Punished Miku
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It was nextgen as fuck though graphically. Still looks nuts today.
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FF16 is the first true next gen game
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Oof85
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Imagine still being hyped over them in 2023 instead
Hugare
Member
Assuming there’s no downgrade at launch? Yes this is the first true full next gen game with its micro/macro detail and large scale battles.
The first screenshot is moody, but you cant see shit
What's impressive about screenshot 2? The .JPEG of a city in the background? Or the 2 meters distance of LOD for grass?
Screenshot 3 is even worse. No ambient occlusion for the grass on the left, fake looking rain, no geometry at all on the ground, copy and paste trees ....
FF XVI:
FF XV:
Some stuff is better, obviously, but I dont see these 2 games being one generation apart
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Mr.Phoenix
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lol, OP you're mistaken. It's not even the best-looking current-gen (dunno why you still insist on calling current-gen next-gen) game.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
crazy how they live rent free in your head
ChorizoPicozo
Member
nope
mxbison
Member
Looked incredible start to finish while running buttery smooth with RT and barely any loading times.
It felt like a first glimpse of what we can expect of next-gen, but instead we went back to poorly optimized cross-gen.
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Games of Today
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I feel like the FFVII Remake looks a lot better than this lol.
Esppiral
Member
Yeah the Nintendo 3DS knows about that matter.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
So...Demon's Souls, Ratchet, Returnal were what exactly?
Even Horizon Forbidden West looks better and plays better than most "next gen" games out there (as long you're not climbing, lmao)
Even Horizon Forbidden West looks better and plays better than most "next gen" games out there (as long you're not climbing, lmao)
Variahunter
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Terrain detail is not graphics ?
And I know that, I have talked about it, with the rift transition in Ratchet.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
figments of your imagination. you've been in a coma for 10 years. please wake up this is the only way we can reach you
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NightmareFarm
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Not next gen technologically that's for sure
NightmareFarm
Member
That statement applies to plenty of 8th gen games patched to run, load and run better on PS5.
ChorizoPicozo
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making something look anime doesn't make it Truly Next-Gen
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
?????????
damn bro why your eyesight so fucked up man? how are you even reading this text?
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Fbh
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It's my most hyped game of the year but I don't think the graphics are anything incredible.
Horizon came out a year ago, it's a true open world and looks substantially better. If Rockstar would bother to release a 60fps mode for RDR2 it would probably look nicer too.
Also LOL at people saying Ratchet looks almost the same as the 2016 remake:
Horizon came out a year ago, it's a true open world and looks substantially better. If Rockstar would bother to release a 60fps mode for RDR2 it would probably look nicer too.
Also LOL at people saying Ratchet looks almost the same as the 2016 remake:
Variahunter
Member
The first screenshot is moody, but you cant see shit
What's impressive about screenshot 2? The .JPEG of a city in the background? Or the 2 meters distance of LOD for grass?
Screenshot 3 is even worse. No ambient occlusion for the grass on the left, fake looking rain, no geometry at all on the ground, copy and paste trees ....
FF XVI:
FF XV:
Some stuff is better, obviously, but I dont see these 2 games being one generation apart
Yeah really similar to FFXV.
Plus you're cherry picking the worst quality possible for FFXVI and the windows edition for FFXV.
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64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
it looks like anime bro it looks exactly like anime
Yeah really similar to FFXV.
Plus you're cherry picking the worst quality possible for FFXVI and the windows edition for FFXV.
NightmareFarm
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Lmao wtf is next gen technology? They were games released with the ps5 in mind. That’s all.
NightmareFarm
Member
Something which isn't just something a PS4 can do with 60fps fast loading and RT slapped onto it.
Madflavor
Member
I'm curious why you think it looks anime.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
i was taking the piss out of
ChorizoPicozo
's statement that it's not next gen because it 'looks like anime'
Madflavor
Member
Oh alrighty, that flew over my head. You had me going for a moment.i was taking the piss out of
Satansblade
Banned
then you aren't looking that hard. The difference iin the small details is huge, right down to the skin, rocks, and sharpness of the backgrounds.The first screenshot is moody, but you cant see shit
What's impressive about screenshot 2? The .JPEG of a city in the background? Or the 2 meters distance of LOD for grass?
Screenshot 3 is even worse. No ambient occlusion for the grass on the left, fake looking rain, no geometry at all on the ground, copy and paste trees ....
FF XVI:
FF XV:
Some stuff is better, obviously, but I dont see these 2 games being one generation apart
The days of huge leaps in graphical fidelity are over, now it's about performance, fast loading, and small details. People expecting the IQ jump of PS2 to PS3 are being unreasonable. I'm far more enthused about Quality of Life improvements than I am about graphics. I have a PC with 4090 and laptop with a 4080, obviously the idea that " only next Gen can do this" is ridiculous, but you're using low res screenshots to make an argument that there are no improvements. Look at both of these scenes on a 4k screen from the original source (the games), instead of randomly grabbed screenshots, and the visual difference would be much bigger.
Just how much more blur is used in these FFXV shots should tell you everything you need to know. XVI isn't using extreme blur to smooth out transitions from one texture to the next. and like I said, look at the texture of the beast clive is fighting, which is just a regular monster, and then look at the textures on the last shot. Even in screen grabs, the texture improvements are massive.
I'm completely convinced a lot of people don't know what they are looking for when comparing graphical fidelity. Also, I think too many people don't see the optometrist enough (because that shit is expensive, and the decline of sight happens so slowly people don't notice, not because I think people are idiots or anything).
Shifty1897
Member
Numbers spraying all over the screen like a free to play slot machine app and QTE's straight out of Asura's Wrath. Looks like another modern FF misfire to me.
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Satansblade
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there is so much wrong with his "analysis". Not the least of which is that he's factually wrong, and the FF16 images look far, far better than the XV image he showed. Like, it's not even close.i was taking the piss out of
Satansblade
Banned
you can turn off the numbers, and the kaiju battles are literally story beats. Game looks absolutely incredible.
Shifty1897
Member
Well, we can agree that it's graphically impressive, just like FFXIII and FFXV was.
NightmareFarm
Member
The gameplay looks like cutscenes in FF16 graphic wise.
Satansblade
Banned
And it's also likely to have the best story in a single player FF. The work that team did on the story of XIV is the best in gaming.
Looks good on it's own for sure. But nothing has quite scratched my turn based jrpg itch since oldschool FF
Satansblade
Banned
I mean, are you pretending you know what that ratio is? Because like EVERY FF, there will be many hours of gameplay for every hour of cutscene. Also, it's a JRPG. I don't get the comments where people are upset that JRPG's are what JRPG's have always been.
Oof85
Member
Not at all.
I always kinda forget they're still a thing because it's such inept game design imo.
But tbh I don't really play games with press A for awesome mechanics.
It's just not attractive to me.
The Bouncer on ps2.
Launch title, and while it was not a good game, it had gorgeous graphics and special effects. I mean, they literally threw in everything the ps2 was able to do (high poly count, 60 fps, advanced particles, depth of field, bloom...oh the BLoOm, motion blur, etc).
It's true that in terms of fine details, it's not top tier, bu FF16 looks very good, and i expect a lot of madness on screen and (mostly) realtime cutscenes, with movie-level direction.
Physiognomonics
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What are you talking about? What PS4 has anything to do with Ratchet on PS5?
Satansblade
Banned
Ive been playing FF since 1989. It's far past time shitty turn based combat dissapeared.
No, it didn't. They were very clear the Eikon battles are parts of major story beats.
Like the OP was full of hyperbole, but so are these nonsense hot takes.
You mean like never in the history of mainline FF? Also, if you think DMC is "Slap the button fast bro", you definitely don't understand DMC. You can get by doing that, but you'll never actually get good at it.
If you're pretending turn based games took strategy, then we have a different idea of what strategy entails. The only FF games that ever required strategy were online (and even then, very little).
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Satansblade
Banned
how is a game released a year after launch a launch title?
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Wasn't it a launch title?...damn. Sorry for my mistake!
Satansblade
Banned
nah, one year later. Summoner was a launch title lol. PS2 had terrible launch games. Made up for it quickly though.
ShadyAcshuns
Member
Looks fucking amazing. So much so that I'm willing to spend $100 for it.
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
Ratchet and Clank was the 1st true next gen title.
It looked and played fantastic and ever since then, we've really only had mostly shinier PS4 looking games. My guess and hope is it's because devs are still doing this crossgen bullshit when making their games, and that once everything is truly PS5 only, we'll start to see things look more as they should in this gen.
It looked and played fantastic and ever since then, we've really only had mostly shinier PS4 looking games. My guess and hope is it's because devs are still doing this crossgen bullshit when making their games, and that once everything is truly PS5 only, we'll start to see things look more as they should in this gen.
Mr.Phoenix
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This is a ridiculous ignorant take... I'll give you that.