• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Top Rated games of 2023 are GAMECUBE games

Aenima

Member
PS2 barely got used.
And thats why u think Gamecube had a better library.

Gamecube had its fair amount of great games, but comeon, this was just some of the games that droped during the 2001 holiday months for PS2.

playstation-2-fall-2001.large.jpg


Metacritics:
GTAIII - 97
MGS2 - 96
GT3 - 95
DMC - 94
FFX - 92
ICO - 90
J&D - 90
 
Last edited:

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
Gamecube didn’t even have GTA, the biggest series of that generation. No Devil May Cry. No Monster Hunter. No Ridge Racer. No Tekken. No Virtua Fighter. No Dragon Quest. No Final Fantasy. No Contra. No Castlevania. No Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3.

No nothing.

It couldn’t even hang onto Resident Evil 4 and Viewtiful Joe.

Still was a great system though. It just lacked the majority of big releases.
 
Last edited:
And thats why u think Gamecube had a better library.

Gamecube had its fair amount of great games, but comeon, this was just some of the games that droped during the 2001 holiday months for PS2.

playstation-2-fall-2001.large.jpg


Metacritics:
GTAIII - 97
MGS2 - 96
GT3 - 95
DMC - 94
ICO - 90

That's honestly really impressive.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TLZ
Gamecube didn’t even have GTA, the biggest series of that generation. No Devil May Cry. No Monster Hunter. No Ridge Racer. No Tekken. No Virtua Fighter. No Dragon Quest. No Final Fantasy. No Contra. No Castlevania. No Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3.

No nothing.

It couldn’t even hang onto Resident Evil 4 and Viewtiful Joe.

Still was a great system though. It just lacked the majority of big releases.

Nintendo's output was strong with experimental titles such as F-Zero GX, Metroid Prime, Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, etc.

The console still received a majority of third party releases, just not all of the big ones.
 

Woopah

Member
Tears of the Kingdom is a bigger Twilight Princess, Starfield is Wind Waker in space, FF XVI is a flashier Tales of Symphonia and Gamecube already has a game called Spiderman 2.

So this will be true all year!
 

Doom85

Member
Tears of the Kingdom is a bigger Twilight Princess, Starfield is Wind Waker in space, FF XVI is a flashier Tales of Symphonia and Gamecube already has a game called Spiderman 2.

So this will be true all year!

Star Wars: Jedi Survivor is just Rogue Squadron 2 except you don’t fight in a spaceship.
Street Fighter 6 is clearly taking its heaviest inspiration from Smash Bros. Melee.
Diablo 4 is Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance because they’re both fantasy and thus exactly the same.
Baldur’s Gate 3 is just Mario Kart: Double Dash since you’re in control of more than one character in each game.
Redfall is a total remake of Mario Sunshine, at least if you hit your head repeatedly with a hammer enough times.
 

Iced Arcade

Member
God dammit, someone had to give GameCube credit and cause chaos in the stable.

That generation had 3 amazing consoles. The cube was amazing except they screwed themselves with the mini disks.
 
Last edited:
I loved my gamecube but thinking it had a better library than PS2 is delusion of the highest order. It had a better 1st party library by far but PS2 smoked it overall because of 3rd party games. My cabinet was stacked with PS2 games compared to gamecube games. Doesn't mean the gamecube wasn't a great little system. The highs were very high but the overall library was lacking.
 
Last edited:

Rykan

Member
It's a quality overall quantity matter.

The PS2 had more games, no question.

The GameCube had higher quality games.

A list comparing the best games on each platform, and which have aged the best would have the GameCube as the winner.
No, you’re making the same common mistake that many Gamecube fans make.

If you ask 10 Gamecube fans what their top 10 or top 20 Gamecube games are, you’ll get 10 very similar lists, with only the order of the games varying. Some Gamecube fans might think that these few games must have been amazing. However, that's not really the case; they are just the only few good games on the system.

Gamecube wasn't a case of "Quality over Quantity". The fact that it lacks a sizeable amount of good games compared to the PS2 doesn't mean that the few games they did have were of exceptional quality.
 

SpiceRacz

Member
Man, the Gamecube must have really sucked if it was a miserable failure despite having such great games.

GameCube had an unusually high attach rate for how poorly it sold. The 3rd party support was just shitty and GameCube ran into the same issue with droughts between great games.

Gamecube had a better library than the PS2

Absolute bullshit. I do not like the PS2 at all and even I can admit that it had a better library. There's some standout titles on GC that are definitely better than anything on PS2, but top to bottom, the PS2 library has so much more to offer. It's not even close.
 

SeraphJan

Member
GameCube games > Switch games, both in terms of quality and production value, where Zelda plays like Zelda, Mario plays like Mario, where its game not only plays well, but also had better visual compare to its rivals, many GameCube games still looks amazing even today, these games aged like fine wine.

Pre-Wii Nintendo is the king where it cared about its core audience instead of pleasing non gamers or mobile market, sales number aren't everything
 
Last edited:

JimboJones

Member
GameCube games > Switch games, both in terms of quality and production value, where Zelda plays like Zelda, Mario plays like Mario, where its game not only plays well, but also had better visual compare to its rivals, many GameCube games still looks amazing even today, these games aged like fine wine.

Pre-Wii Nintendo is the king where it cared about its core audience instead of pleasing non gamers or mobile market, sales number aren't everything
Had a shit mario kart though
 

Romulus

Member
Most any top tier ps2, Xbox, GameCube game remastered with care would be a "omg top game in 2023!"

The year literally just started and almost nothing has come out yet. We live in one of the biggest droughts in gaming history. Its improving soon, sure. Then you get nostalgic brownie points added to these remastered reviews often times. 10/10 ign lol
 
Last edited:

01011001

Banned
Man, the Gamecube must have really sucked if it was a miserable failure despite having such great games.

amazing hardware, great games...

2 issues that held it back were, #1 the controller, and #2 the mini DVD sized discs.

the controller had 4 buttons less than the controllers of the other 2 consoles, that meant ports often played really weirdly.
and it had sticks with an octagonal gate and the stick mechanisms themselves also had what basically felt like groves the stick slid into that went 8 ways. this made stick movements feel weird in some genres.

the 4 buttons it had less did in many games necessitate button combinations that were a single button press on the other 2 consoles. so controls felt more convoluted and way less intuitive.

in GoldenEye Rogue Agent for example you could dual wield guns, which was the main gameplay feature of the game.
on Xbox you just press X or A to pick up/drop/switch the left and right weapons respectively...
on GameCube you had to hold down A, and then press L or R to do this.

the sticks had no click buttons, it had only 3 shoulder buttons and no Select button. missing stick clicks also often resulted in weird button mappings.


and then the Discs were just too small to fit all the data on. so multiplat games often had compressed textures that looked noticeably grainy.
Ubisoft was especially guilty of this, where you could count the pixels on some textures on GC.
 
Last edited:

JimboJones

Member
Personally I liked Double Dash way more than Mario Kart Wii.

The rubber banding in Wii and the item balance was pretty bad but the controles for racing I felt was very satisfying and paved the way for 7 and 8, they did the right thing and ditched the waggle stick/dpad for boosts.
They brought in the retro tracks from DS and Super Circuit to home consoles which was nice boost to content and of course online and ghost sharing.

The Double Dashes double gimmick never really won me over, the game was very content light and by all rights it should have been the first Mario Kart to have online gameplay buuuuuut noooo Nintendo of that era dragged their goddamn feet the entire generation.

Buts that just my opinion 😅
 

nikos

Member
I remember playing both of those games when they first released for about 15 minutes before dropping them. That system kind of sucked altogether, to be honest.
 
When people say Wind Waker was great it‘s a clear sign of nostalgia kicking in. Yeah right, as if anyone would like sailing for hours through an absolutely empty and boring sea nowadays.
 

Soodanim

Gold Member
When people say Wind Waker was great it‘s a clear sign of nostalgia kicking in. Yeah right, as if anyone would like sailing for hours through an absolutely empty and boring sea nowadays.
I'm glad I played the HD version that sped things up a bit, because going slower must have been a terrible design choice.
 

Ribi

Member
I'll say it. It's because Nintendo doesn't have games so their game starved fans get remakes and score them highly otherwise they know Nintendo will never bless them is with a sprinkle of water in the drought that is creativity for Nintendo.
 
A top 5 games of the gen list on GameCube vs PS2 would have the Cube as the winner.

And yes, I can provide a list if you want.
Shadow of the Colossus.
Metal Gear Solid 2
GTA 3
GTA Vice City
GTA San Andreas
Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 3
Resident Evil 4
Gran Turismo 3: A Spec
Metal Gear Solid 3
God of War
God of War 2
Devil May Cry
Okami
FFX
FFXII

The list goes on and on.

I loved my GameCube dearly, and Windwaker is my favourite Zelda game by a wide margin, but the GameCube’s library is a distant, distant second to the PS2.
 

Alphagear

Member
Shadow of the Colossus.
Metal Gear Solid 2
GTA 3
GTA Vice City
GTA San Andreas
Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 3
Resident Evil 4
Gran Turismo 3: A Spec
Metal Gear Solid 3
God of War
God of War 2
Devil May Cry
Okami
FFX
FFXII

The list goes on and on.

I lovedmy GameCube dearly, and Windwaker is my favourite Zelda game by a wide margin, but the GameCube’s library is a distant, distant second to the PS2.

To be honest even the OG Xbox arguably beats the Gamecube for second place that gen.

Neither came close to the PS2.
 
Last edited:

Scotty W

Gold Member
This really speaks to the fact that there have been almost no revolutionary advances in gaming in the last 20 years, and that you can get away with not having the advances we have had if you put a per cost of paint on it.
 

scydrex

Member
I had both. I hated the GC controller. Liked some of it games Nintendo first party mostly. The PS2 wins in library no contest there. So much quality games to choose from. I even don't know where to begin...
 

v1oz

Member
PS2 did nothing for me personally. It's game library on the whole was skewed towards casuals, those that play whatever genre is very popular at the time. Most people I knew that had PS2 just played FIFA, GTA or racing games. For me the best games that generation by far were RE4, Metroid Prime, Wind Waker, Paper Mario, Smash Bros Melee and F Zero GX. The lunchbox handle design and purple colour kept most of the casuals very far away from the Gamecube.
 
Last edited:
PS2 did nothing for me personally. It's game library on the whole was skewed towards casuals, those that play whatever genre is very popular at the time. Most people I knew that had PS2 just played FIFA, GTA or racing games. For me the best games that generation by far were RE4, Metroid Prime, Wind Waker, Paper Mario, Smash Bros Melee and F Zero GX. The lunchbox handle design and purple colour kept most of the casuals very far away from the Gamecube.

I love all those games on GC but the JRPG support for PS2 is what made the console the GOAT for me
 

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
Nintendo's output was strong with experimental titles such as F-Zero GX, Metroid Prime, Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, etc.

The console still received a majority of third party releases, just not all of the big ones.

It did not receive the majority of third party releases. It didn’t even receive a lot of big multiplatform third party games.

The majority of third party releases were PS2 exclusive.

Most post you replied to showed that, and I didn’t even go into detail. There’s way more PS2 third party exclusives than that. PS2 absolutely dominated, and it’s the reason everyone and their mother had one. Game variety was unmatched.
 
Last edited:

alucard0712_rus

Gold Member
Gamecube didn’t even have GTA, the biggest series of that generation. No Devil May Cry. No Monster Hunter. No Ridge Racer. No Tekken. No Virtua Fighter. No Dragon Quest. No Final Fantasy. No Contra. No Castlevania. No Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3.

No nothing.

It couldn’t even hang onto Resident Evil 4 and Viewtiful Joe.

Still was a great system though. It just lacked the majority of big releases.
Nintendo of that era didn't give a shit about multiplatform.
 

rodrigolfp

Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
I will not play MP and RE4R on GC with GC controller, resolution, graphics, bla bla bla etc, etc, so nope. They are not GC games.
 
Last edited:
Top Bottom