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Chances are Evil Dead Rise doesn't suck

Bartski

Gold Member
Just noticed reviews for the next Evil Dead film, releasing in theaters 21st April.

Looks like it might actually stand out as 2023's first win among the endless trash that is modern horror.

I'm in.

https://www.metacritic.com/movie/evil-dead-rise

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/evil_dead_rise

 

Kev Kev

Member
Good to hear. Evil Dead is one my favorites. I looooved Ash vs Evil Dead, so sad it ended.

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Doom85

Member
I'm looking forward to Evil Dead Rise quite a bit, but.... what? The past 5-6 years or so have been an absolute renaissance for horror, there's been something for everyone. The late 2000s/early 2010s? Now that was garbage, definitely a dark age.

Clearly the OP misses the “good old days” of found footage, torture porn, and remakes.

Don‘t get me wrong, I liked a few of the above, like Blair Witch Project 1 (the 2016 film at least had a good final act, fuck Book of Shadows though), Cloverfield, Saw 1 and to a lesser extent 2 (never got around to the others), and the 2003 Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake (hey, certainly better than all the TCM films that followed it).

But yeah, there was FAR more trash in that era (honestly I’d extend it to most of the 2000s, there was a reason so many people were seeking out foreign horror films during that decade). Like, I couldn’t stand any of the Paranormal Activity films. It felt like in 2013 when James Wan made the first Conjuring, he was like, “let’s A) actually utilize proper camera work instead of constant fixed shots because ‘ooh, house camera footage!’, B) actually get people who can act*, and C) actually try to be scary!”

*minus the dad in the first film. Holy hell he was bad in some scenes. His wife and the Warrens‘ actors made up for it, and even some of the kids have good moments (the one girl sounded legit freaked out when she said something was standing right beside her sister). And holy shit, the little girl who is possessed in the second film, she killed it! And that effect where she’s sitting behind Ed Warren and the camera has her out of focus and she transforms into the old man spirit even though we saw the actual actress sitting before it went out of focus and there didn’t seem to be a cut, like damn! James Wan had some good tricks! Also, kudos on getting that guy who played the Crooked Man, people assumed it was CGI due to the body shape, but no, there was a guy with that unique of a body structure.

Sucks Wan didn’t direct the third film, you could tell the drop in quality, but I still enjoyed it (though far less than the first two) purely to see Ed and Lorraine again. It was like one of the bad X-Files episodes, sure it sucked it wasn’t one of the good episodes, but it’s enjoyable just to follow Mulder and Scully.

But anyway, yeah and then A24 is just pumping out so many unique and well directed and acted horror films. Even some of the more conventional and sillier stuff is fun. Like, this year, Megan was really fun, and Scream 6 is fun for what it was (and hey, nice to see a slasher actually set in New York the whole time! Looking at you, Jason “Takes Manhattan”!)
 

Laieon

Member
But yeah, there was FAR more trash in that era (honestly I’d extend it to most of the 2000s, there was a reason so many people were seeking out foreign horror films during that decade). Like, I couldn’t stand any of the Paranormal Activity films. It felt like in 2013 when James Wan made the first Conjuring, he was like, “let’s A) actually utilize proper camera work instead of constant fixed shots because ‘ooh, house camera footage!’, B) actually get people who can act*, and C) actually try to be scary!”

Funny enough, I was thinking of the Conjuring as the point where the genre started to shift for the better too.

It's always the stuck on 80's slasher franchise fans that claim modern horror sucks

Hey now, my favorite horror movie is still Friday the 13th Part II. That's my point though, if you still like 80s slashers then those haven't disappeared either. You're still getting good to cheesy sequels to Halloween, Child's Play, Candyman, and Texas Chainsaw Massacre (and if we extend it to the 90s, Scream). You're getting new slashers in movies like Terrifier, Happy Death Day, There's Someone Inside Your House, and Haunt (and then other movies that had elements of slashers, like It Follows).
 
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I don't know, but I've been seeing a bunch of clickbaity articles about the movie that make them seem desperate.

That one about Ash hidden in the movie just made me laugh out loud. It's like "Go see the movie and MAYBE you'll see Ash!" :messenger_tears_of_joy: Yeah, that'll definitely get me to buy a ticket... NOT

Edit after seeing the movie:
The Ash cameo is actually pretty great, I laughed out loud when I heard it because I immediately recognized his voice.
 
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xrnzaaas

Member
We'll see. I was sceptical about the Jane Levy flick back in 2013, but it turned out to be a great horror flick and I'm even sad a bit that it didn't get a sequel.
 

Pejo

Member
I just watched the trailer for the first time just now. I'm not sure why any of you are saying it looks good. To me, it appears to be another genderflipped soulless follow-up to a well loved movie/series that doesn't seem to understand what made people love the originals.

Looks like overly realistic gore porn and "modern family dynamics" the movie.

I don't see anything from the trailer that shows the campiness, the funny quips, or any actor/actress that looks nearly 1/100th as likeable as Ash (or Pablo/Kelly from AvED).

Ash vs. Evil Dead was absolutely fantastic, and all that I ever wanted out of a sequel to the movies. This looks like it misses the point entirely.

It's like the Wolfenstein: Youngblood compared to Wolfenstein: The New Order, in videogame terms.
 

Forsythia

Member
There hasn't been a bad Evil Dead movie/tv show. It's all been fantastic and I hope Rise is as well. Will be there day 1 at the theatre!
 

DGrayson

Mod Team and Bat Team
Staff Member
There hasn't been a bad Evil Dead movie/tv show. It's all been fantastic and I hope Rise is as well. Will be there day 1 at the theatre!


I wasnt a huge fan of the show. Admittedly I only watched season 1 and I tend not to like modern shows made from movies. The effects by the end looked bad and I wasnt feeling it. I did like the beginning but it went downhill How were the other seasons?
 

kunonabi

Member
I wasnt a huge fan of the show. Admittedly I only watched season 1 and I tend not to like modern shows made from movies. The effects by the end looked bad and I wasnt feeling it. I did like the beginning but it went downhill How were the other seasons?
Season 2 is kind of better but the show gets worse and worse as it goes because of how gross and unlikable they make Ash. The overall plot isnt that great either. The dynamic between Ash and Kelly was the only thing that kept me watching to be honest.
 

Kev Kev

Member
I would really enjoy a Kelly and Pablo spin-off.
Dude, yes. Pablo was great. I was hoping he was going to take Ash's place as the new 'El Jefe'. Ray Santiago's style fit into The Evil Dead franchise perfectly, and he's just all around a good actor. And funny too! Kelly really grew on me too. I liked them both a lot by the end of the series.

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Hugare

Member
I just watched the trailer for the first time just now. I'm not sure why any of you are saying it looks good. To me, it appears to be another genderflipped soulless follow-up to a well loved movie/series that doesn't seem to understand what made people love the originals.

Looks like overly realistic gore porn and "modern family dynamics" the movie.

I don't see anything from the trailer that shows the campiness, the funny quips, or any actor/actress that looks nearly 1/100th as likeable as Ash (or Pablo/Kelly from AvED).

Ash vs. Evil Dead was absolutely fantastic, and all that I ever wanted out of a sequel to the movies. This looks like it misses the point entirely.

It's like the Wolfenstein: Youngblood compared to Wolfenstein: The New Order, in videogame terms.
You havent watched the remake, have you?

Its a continuation of the remake, not the old movies. Very different tone.

I like the old movies, but I enjoyed a lot the new take with the remake. And this seems even better.

Doesnt seem like "yet another possession movie". Seems like they have their own unique thing going on.
 

zeioIIDX

Member
(Preface: I'm a casual fan of the entire Evil Dead series, seen 'em all. I absolutely love the Ash vs Evil Dead show and its goofiness as well as the 2013 remake with it's focus on carnage and gore)

Saw this at the Overlook Film Festival in NOLA on April 1st. Eh. The 2013 remake was so much better to me. That one was at least chaotic, wild, and had a firm horror tone. Evil Dead Rise was so entirely predictable throughout that each time something predictable was about to occur, I told myself "Nah...that's too predictable, they'll subvert my expectations." only to have it play out exactly as I had predicted.

There were some very heavy-handed moments of foreshadowing, almost as if the audience needed to be force-fed the foreshadowed moments. I'm talking camera focusing on some object or action for a good 3-5 seconds while slowly zooming in so you know the movie is gonna come back to that "forgotten" or "random" thing later. Also, don't expect the concept of a high rise with Deadites to present the chaos and scariness of Deadites running rampant from floor to floor, room to room, while tearing people apart. Nah. The action is mostly relegated to a single floor and a parking garage. They could have done so much more with the idea of Deadites in a high rise building.

Even the gore was not as gnarly as the 2013 version. I didn't wince at anything in Evil Dead Rise apart from the way somebody gets stabbed at one point. Meanwhile, almost every attack in the 2013 flick made me either wince or think "Okay, they're gonna cut, they aren't gonna fully show that....wow, they showed that entire sequence without censoring it, damn.". The cheese grater scene in this is nowhere near as great as people are hyped about. It's rather tame and didn't live up to my expectations at all. When it happened, I was like "Huh. Alright, that would suck, but it also didn't cause anywhere near as much damage as I thought it would. Okay, then.". By the way, this isn't the only "shocking" scene either. There are a few more that they have not alluded to in trailers!

I dislike when movies do that thing where they have a character say a line or do a thing...and because they don't know how to naturally or realistically proceed from there, they simply have the character pass out, lmfao. They did it in the 2013 flick when somewhat possessed Mia walks into the middle of the cabin in front of everyone and declares "You're all going to die tonight!" before passing out and dropping like a sack of potatoes. Evil Dead Rise does this, as you've probably seen in the trailers, by having a possessed Ellie bone crack her way up a shower wall, settle into the corner/ceiling, and proceed to scream so loud (for a good 15 seconds) that the water in the tub boils (alright, that was kinda cool), shit shatters around the bathroom, and the characters clench their hands over their ears in discomfort. How do they follow-up a character deciding to randomly scream for 15 seconds while spider clinging to a ceiling? They make her pass the fuck out and fall into the tub of water, of course. I feel like they only include this shit so they can put it in trailers for a "cool looking" or "spooky" moment and it makes me cringe a little.

I will say this: if you're expecting a film more in tone with Evil Dead 1 or the 2013 remake...I would say that is 75% of Evil Dead Rise. Surprisingly, the other 25% is goofballl slapstick shit and corny one liners a la Evil Dead 2, Army of Darkness, and Ash vs Evil Dead...just not completely to the same degree. The balance between the two tones was not that bad beyond the actions of certain characters, including the villain(s) being idiotic at times. The movie did have style and some cool moments but it was just far too predictable to ignore and the characters in this had that "anime paralysis syndrome" thing...you know...where something crazy is happening or an enemy is powering up and the main characters just sit there staring and shuddering and muttering instead of either running and getting the hell away or using that as their chance to attack. It happened so many times in this movie that it was distracting because of how unrealistic it was. Oh, be prepared for a few jumpscares. This movie enjoyed deploying those. The kind that coincide with extremely loud sounds.

After all that shit talking, I did in fact enjoy Evil Dead Rise! It just...can't compare (gore/horror-wise) to the 2013 remake and when shit gets silly, it's the kind of silly that you need to be in a packed theater to properly somewhat enjoy. Lore-wise, it only touches on connections/lore during one scene which seems to connect it properly to the Evil Dead realm and the 2013 Evil Dead realm (making this the third realm). If you're a fan of Army of Darkness, you'll know what I'm referring to. So yeah, for me, I enjoyed the film but it's Evil Dead, so you're kinda meant to simply turn off your brain and soak in the silliness/campiness/horror of it all. I feel like this is not even close to as good as SXSW critics are claiming it is, they must have seen a better cut of the film or something lmao. But it isn't quite SYFY original bad or anything like that. I truly wish Evil Dead Rise played more with the idea of Deadites overrunning a high rise, but that just isn't what you get in this film.

P.S. The acting of the cast was pretty good, apart from the teenage boy/son and the one-note cartoony neighbors who briefly appear. Ellie's youngest daughter is so damn adorable and has a few funny moments. The little girl playing her does a great job and is mostly believable/realistic in her portrayal. The teenage girl is decent but she really shines later in the movie. Ellie (the mother) and her sister and main character, Beth, are both great. Ellie's actress does an awesome job portraying a Deadite and honestly, it sucks that she gets turned into one because her life already sucked leading up to that. Beth is pretty believable and enjoyable in her character's ability to rise to the occasion and protect her sister's children. None of the characters truly annoyed me, apart from the teenage boy who stood around stuttering like Krillin in a fucking DBZ episode most of the time. Dialogue wasn't too terrible overall and they get going with the main stuff fairly quickly after an unrelated opening scene to set the tone as well as filling the audience in on little bit of backstory once Beth and Ellie meet up. Quite a few lines made me chuckle, especially when they'd say some sarcastic or smart-ass shit. We get to see what each of the three kids are up to as we're shown their bedrooms with them inside and we get a peak into their personalities and how they interact with one another as well as towards their mother and Beth. After that, shit goes down and incantations are inadvertently spewed, and it's time to survive against evil (which is what we all signed up to see anyway!).
 
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kunonabi

Member
(Preface: I'm a casual fan of the entire Evil Dead series, seen 'em all. I absolutely love the Ash vs Evil Dead show and its goofiness as well as the 2013 remake with it's focus on carnage and gore)

Saw this at the Overlook Film Festival in NOLA on April 1st. Eh. The 2013 remake was so much better to me. That one was at least chaotic, wild, and had a firm horror tone. Evil Dead Rise was so entirely predictable throughout that each time something predictable was about to occur, I told myself "Nah...that's too predictable, they'll subvert my expectations." only to have it play out exactly as I had predicted.

There were some very heavy-handed moments of foreshadowing, almost as if the audience needed to be force-fed the foreshadowed moments. I'm talking camera focusing on some object or action for a good 3-5 seconds while slowly zooming in so you know the movie is gonna come back to that "forgotten" or "random" thing later. Also, don't expect the concept of a high rise with Deadites to present the chaos and scariness of Deadites running rampant from floor to floor, room to room, while tearing people apart. Nah. The action is mostly relegated to a single floor and a parking garage. They could have done so much more with the idea of Deadites in a high rise building.

Even the gore was not as gnarly as the 2013 version. I didn't wince at anything in Evil Dead Rise apart from the way somebody gets stabbed at one point. Meanwhile, almost every attack in the 2013 flick made me either wince or think "Okay, they're gonna cut, they aren't gonna fully show that....wow, they showed that entire sequence without censoring it, damn.". The cheese grater scene in this is nowhere near as great as people are hyped about. It's rather tame and didn't live up to my expectations at all. When it happened, I was like "Huh. Alright, that would suck, but it also didn't cause anywhere near as much damage as I thought it would. Okay, then.". By the way, this isn't the only "shocking" scene either. There are a few more that they have not alluded to in trailers!

I dislike when movies do that thing where they have a character say a line or do a thing...and because they don't know how to naturally or realistically proceed from there, they simply have the character pass out, lmfao. They did it in the 2013 flick when somewhat possessed Mia walks into the middle of the cabin in front of everyone and declares "You're all going to die tonight!" before passing out and dropping like a sack of potatoes. Evil Dead Rise does this, as you've probably seen in the trailers, by having a possessed Ellie bone crack her way up a shower wall, settle into the corner/ceiling, and proceed to scream so loud (for a good 15 seconds) that the water in the tub boils (alright, that was kinda cool), shit shatters around the bathroom, and the characters clench their hands over their ears in discomfort. How do they follow-up a character deciding to randomly scream for 15 seconds while spider clinging to a ceiling? They make her pass the fuck out and fall into the tub of water, of course. I feel like they only include this shit so they can put it in trailers for a "cool looking" or "spooky" moment and it makes me cringe a little.

I will say this: if you're expecting a film more in tone with Evil Dead 1 or the 2013 remake...I would say that is 75% of Evil Dead Rise. Surprisingly, the other 25% is goofballl slapstick shit and corny one liners a la Evil Dead 2, Army of Darkness, and Ash vs Evil Dead...just not completely to the same degree. The balance between the two tones was not that bad beyond the actions of certain characters, including the villain(s) being idiotic at times. The movie did have style and some cool moments but it was just far too predictable to ignore and the characters in this had that "anime paralysis syndrome" thing...you know...where something crazy is happening or an enemy is powering up and the main characters just sit there staring and shuddering and muttering instead of either running and getting the hell away or using that as their chance to attack. It happened so many times in this movie that it was distracting because of how unrealistic it was. Oh, be prepared for a few jumpscares. This movie enjoyed those. The kind that coincide with extremely loud sounds.

After all that shit talking, I did in fact enjoy Evil Dead Rise! It just...can't compare (gore/horror-wise) to the 2013 remake and when shit gets silly, it's the kind of silly that you need to be in a packed theater to properly somewhat enjoy. Lore-wise, it only touches on connections/lore during one scene which seems to connect it properly to the Evil Dead realm and the 2013 Evil Dead realm (making this the third realm). If you're a fan of Army of Darkness, you'll know what I'm referring to. So yeah, for me, I enjoyed the film but it's Evil Dead so you're kinda meant to turn off your brain and soak in the silliness/campiness/horror of it all. I feel like this is not even close to as good as SXSW critics are claiming it is, they must have seen a better cut of the film or something lmao. But it isn't quite SYFY original bad or anything like that. I truly wish Evil Dead Rise played more with the idea of Deadites overrunning a high rise, but that just isn't what you get in this film.

P.S. The acting of the cast was pretty good, apart from the teenage boy/son and the one-note cartoony neighbors who briefly appear. Ellie's youngest daughter is so damn adorable and has a few funny moments. The little girl playing her does a great job and is mostly believable/realistic in her portrayal. The teenage girl is decent but she really shines later in the movie. Ellie (the mother) and her sister and main character, Beth, are both great. Ellie's actress does an awesome job portraying a Deadite and honestly, it sucks that she gets turned into one because her life already sucked leading up to that. Beth is pretty believable and enjoyable in her character's ability to rise to the occasion and protect her sister's children. None of the characters truly annoyed me, apart from the teenage boy who stood around stuttering like Krillin in a fucking DBZ episode most of the time. Dialogue wasn't too terrible overall and they get going with the main stuff fairly quickly after an unrelated opening scene to set the tone as well as filling the audience in on little bit of backstory once Beth and Ellie meet up. Quite a few lines made me chuckle, especially when they'd say some sarcastic or smart-ass shit. We get to see what each of the three kids are up to as we're shown their bedrooms with them inside and we get a peak into their personalities and how they interact with one another as well as towards their mother and Beth. After that, shit goes down and incantations are inadvertently spewed, and it's time to survive against evil (which is what we all signed up to see anyway!).
Yeah, if Tilda Swinton can't pull off playing a man convincingly I had zero expectations for this chick to do any better.
 

Fools idol

Banned
my friend got to see this today at a small invite only viewing for press and he said it was atrocious. I didn't expect much but damn...

Guess I will wait until it's steeamable. 😭
 

niilokin

Member
Saw it today, it was pretty good! Was lacking bit of the cheekiness of the series IMO.
I dislike when movies do that thing where they have a character say a line or do a thing...and because they don't know how to naturally or realistically proceed from there, they simply have the character pass out, lmfao. They did it in the 2013 flick when somewhat possessed Mia walks into the middle of the cabin in front of everyone and declares "You're all going to die tonight!" before passing out and dropping like a sack of potatoes. Evil Dead Rise does this, as you've probably seen in the trailers, by having a possessed Ellie bone crack her way up a shower wall, settle into the corner/ceiling, and proceed to scream so loud (for a good 15 seconds) that the water in the tub boils (alright, that was kinda cool), shit shatters around the bathroom, and the characters clench their hands over their ears in discomfort. How do they follow-up a character deciding to randomly scream for 15 seconds while spider clinging to a ceiling? They make her pass the fuck out and fall into the tub of water, of course. I feel like they only include this shit so they can put it in trailers for a "cool looking" or "spooky" moment and it makes me cringe a little.
Agree, the wall screaming scene was cool and I really hoped it would just build more from that instead of just dropping back into the tub. She did pick up the pace pretty well later on. Man I loved the opening title scene with the chick levitating above the water!
 
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zeioIIDX

Member
Saw it today, it was pretty good! Was lacking bit of the cheekiness of the series IMO.

Agree, the wall screaming scene was cool and I really hoped it would just build more from that instead of just dropping back into the tub. She did pick up the pace pretty well later on. Man I loved the opening title scene with the chick levitating above the water!
Yeah, that opening title card scene was incredible! I really did love the look and feel of that with the background score ramping up.
 

Labolas

Member
Yeah this did not suck. Fun as fuck movie. I did have some gripes with it though. I kinda wished it was more gorey. The cheese grater scene, for example, I was expecting more out of instead of it being used once. Also I wished we got to see more of the apartment complex. It was just the one apartment, the hallway with the elevator and the garage. Outside those minor complaints, I really enjoyed it. I loved the callbacks that the movie did:

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The Evil Dead franchise continues to have not one bad entry which is a rarity nowadays.
 

kunonabi

Member
Got dragged to it last night and I was not impressed. Not awful but not all that special either. Just felt like it was going through the motions for most of it and it really wasted the premise of deadites in an apartment building. Chick's dude voice was super distracting too.
 

8bitpill

Member
Went this past Friday and it's good. Among the sea of garbage that is released in the horror genre now and days it's a shining beacon. Out of all the Evil Dead movies in the franchise, it would be at the bottom but in no way does that make it bad.

It's more of a horror movie like the original Evil Dead was and Evil Dead 2013. It didn't have that Black/Dark Comedy that was in Evil Dead 2, Army of Darkness, and Ash VS Evil Dead.

How I looked at it, it's a way for a younger generation to get into Evil Dead.

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If you like Evil Dead, you will most likely enjoy it. It definitely played it safe with how things unfolded (story of course is similar to what has come before). I figured they wrote it like this as fan service and didn't want to do something drastically different.

All of that being said go see it, don't take it too serious and enjoy it.

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Damn, that was surprisingly good. I didn't keep up with production of this at all so I went in mostly blind, and was pleasantly surprised to find out it takes place in an apartment building. As someone who lived in an apartment building for most of my life, I always felt like it's a somewhat underutilized setting for horror.

The only part I didn't like was the final scene which I thought was completely unnecessary... we can assume that the girl from the intro sequence was possessed somehow lol, it didn't need to be a cheap pre-credit stinger.

Kudos to the writer + director Lee Cronin. His previous film The Hole in the Ground was pretty good too from what I remember.
 

gatti-man

Member
my friend got to see this today at a small invite only viewing for press and he said it was atrocious. I didn't expect much but damn...

Guess I will wait until it's steeamable. 😭
Your friend has terrible taste. No way someone could think that, that actually enjoys horror movies or the evil dead. It’s the best horror movie I’ve seen in years.
 
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