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Vita Will Allow Multiple PSN Accounts, Sony Says
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It's region free.
sixteen-bit
Member
Good to hear.
thehillissilent
Member
All according to Keikaku!
radios shipping overview
Member
Reminds me of when you had to have an individual VMU assigned to each player in multiplayer Dreamcast games. Diablolical.
Compared to the previous situation, this is a minor improvement, but it's still a shit sandwich.
I guess I'll get a 32gb for my EU account, and then buy an 8gb for my US account, then a 4gb for my JP account. This is going to be so fucking expensive...
One I'll inevitably eat, grinning.
I guess I'll get a 32gb for my EU account, and then buy an 8gb for my US account, then a 4gb for my JP account. This is going to be so fucking expensive...
Fantastic....
"Want to use PSN with the Vita? Buy a memory card. Want to use more than one PSN account with the Vita? Buy several memory cards. Want to play a lot of big games like Uncharted? Yes you need a memory card"
Vita was going to be a day 1 purchase but now I think I'm content with sitting back and seeing how this plays out... for a while. (I've been burned with buying a 3DS day 1... not going to happen again >_> )
"Want to use PSN with the Vita? Buy a memory card. Want to use more than one PSN account with the Vita? Buy several memory cards. Want to play a lot of big games like Uncharted? Yes you need a memory card"
Vita was going to be a day 1 purchase but now I think I'm content with sitting back and seeing how this plays out... for a while. (I've been burned with buying a 3DS day 1... not going to happen again >_> )
Bomber Bob
Banned
Dude just buy physical games if you like trophies
Looks like Crystal has some more work to do. Resetting Vita to factory settings should not affect the memory card.
No confirmation yet, but everything points to NO.
Angelcurio
Member
I really think that the multiple accounts problem is due to the lack of internal storage of the Vita. But it still should allow multiple accounts on a single card, because the current solution would not let me play my japanese bought games on my US account.
The problem with that is not every game on PSN is available physically.
Probably tied to the DRM, whether the DRM restricts you to the system or user or card.
Robobandit
Member
well, I am really lazy.. if it will log me in to a particular account based on the memory card I insert into the device, I might think about it..
jump_button
Banned
how big is Uncharted vita save or did I miss something
I wonder if there will be third party ones
But if we keep buying memory cards they will get cheap, right? RIGHT?
Metalmurphy
Member
I actually think this method is kinda cool. Bring you mc to your friends vita, pop it in and voila. Its like ur in ur own vita. If it actually is that seamless
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
IIRC Kai Hirai @ E3. Either him or Yoshida.
Shush! Don't disturb the shitstorm.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
I can only assume anyone considering this a 'no buy' issue will never own the 3DS.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
It says the card is tied to your Vita, probably through your PSN account. So by restoring factory defaults you'll clear PSN accounts and as a result, tied in memory cards.
It's not so different than what Apple does, the only difference is that you can't see what the "base" price of an iPad with no storage is which obscures how overpriced the memory is...and it works well for them because I don't see that much bitching about that.
Now what I really want to know is what happens if I have two memory cards with the same account...is it like Xbox Live where only one copy of your profile is valid? Can I hand a card with half of my purchases on it and lend it to a friend and tell him to turn off his internet connection while he plays one of my games? If there if a unique encryption per card, does it involve a per console key, can I swap my card into my friend's Vita and start playing?
Edit: Way to read the OP, go me...looks like two memory cards with the same account is ok...also, forgot about the activation system, so in the case where you lend the card to your friend I bet he would have to sign in once in order to activate the card with his Vita, burning one of your activations...
Yes, my guess is there is no way to keep account info externally, so when you switch account, you have to enter everything from scratch. They probably shouldn't keep your password on the memory card. It may be kept in the system itself (somewhere!). We shall see...
EDIT: Correction, I meant the password derived token would be on the card, but something in the system decrypts it.
I don't know but it was confirmed that Uncharted will need a memory card and that games that require them won't start up without a memory card
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Seems okay for now. I'll just have to get a card for my JP account when I end up needing to do something digital which hasn't been too often so far.
It does *appear* to imply that. Which would be bizarre.
It also appears to imply that you *have* to do a factory reset to reinitialise a memory card.
It also appears to imply that you need a memory card to even *play* online.
It also appears to imply that you need to have saves or software *on* the same memory card your account is on; if need to save and realise that your card is full midgame, you can't just swap to your other card registered to a different region to get content saved out.
It also appears to imply that you can't just loan a memory card to a friend. Understandable for games... but for *saves*?
It also raises questions about the upgrade process - both how you go about upgrading your Vita (I assume it's possible to change a memory card to be assigned to a different Vita - but I don't like the talk about factory resets) and how you go about upgrading a memory card (Where do you put the data while transferring it, since you only have one card reader? Cloud storage?)
I suspect some (most?) of these are jumping to conclusions, but still: So many questions!
I think it means in the activation sense.
I would guess you activate a card to work on a vita like you do software on a PS3 or PSP. And you can tie a card to a couple of Vitas, deactivate them if they die, etc.
Probably so that in the case that people learn how to copy memory cards, you won't have instant and rampant piracy...
I think he means the actual download of the full game. I think it's like 4gb.
I'm buying my games retail so I don't worry about it.
Yeah, this seems nice if so.
Pop in the card and you have your profile, saves, games, friends list.
I highly doubt Non PSN content(movies and music you put on there outside the PSN ecosystem) will be tied to one system. Of course everything else will.
It's not better than how a *hacked* PSP does it. But that's rather an unfair comparison!
You can reset to factory settings if you want to use your saves with a new Vita? Seems like we will be copying stuff to pc/ps3 before going that way.
jump_button
Banned
but Vita game are on cards right? like 3DS why cant they put it on them?
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oh right I see
Yes, the card is tied to the Vita, but the contents on the card may not need to. Even if you reset to factory defaults, you should only clear the system, not the card contents. So our files should remain intact.
The weird thing about this is: There was a guy here on the boards that wanted to test his own account on the Vita while they were shown at the recent US mall tour. I don't remember if he did or if he just asked to use his account but the Sony guy at the show apparently said that it was no problem but that it would take some time, because he would have to reset the system to factory setting in order to use a different account. Now, I doubt the Sony guy would ever let anyone reset the device if it would delete all the demos off of it.
No idea, I'm just saying what I read before:
http://www.theverge.com/2011/10/27/...-let-you-start-certain-games-without-a-memory
It is, but Uncharted required a game data cache or something to be saved on the external card. So you need it to play regardless.
Yeah. It's odd.
I think we will see heavy DLC and stuff. At least now I can lend some of my games without saying "Don't overwrite my save!" x50 times /smh
Sadly, at this point, this is what it seems. Absolutely everything about Vita looks devised to make you purchase a collection of memory cards, which by itself wouldn't be a terrible problem... if they weren't so damned overpriced for what they are.
It's unfortunate that Sony have to turn to screw their users so ludicrously to get some extra money from the device. This fuck-up with the memory cards it's the only thing that keeps me away from getting a Vita launch-day... well, that and the lack of more time for another console in my current life.
There were no memory cards in the units at the mall.
The game demos were on actual Vita carts with handwritten stickers on them.
I pulled one out.
But yeah, I don't think formatting erases the card contents. Just deactivates the rights so you can't access it.
Once you reactivate with the original account, I would imagine it's all available again.
All speculation until later this month though.