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The Last of Us (Naughty Dog): Hold One Second

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Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Like I said in another comment. People would not go ape shit and start rapping each other and steal, murder. Just look how people behaved in Japan. Everyone tried to help each other, risking their lives. There was almost zero stealing. People were finding and returning things, etc.
This theory that we would all go insane is just silly. People would just try to reboot.

Some would. And they would probably die in the process. This affliction overpowered all militarized nations of the world. It was unstoppable.

Unlike an earthquake, or some other cataclysmic natural disaster, the threat persists. These things still run around and perpetuate, years later.

What group of ragtag survivors could really create a foothold in such an environment when the greatest military on earth could not hold its ground?

And then there is our own human nature, to cooperate... but of some, to take. No government, no true safety, no community. You have lawlessness. With the threat of death a daily reality, people will lose their shit.

There's a scene in the road... they talk about the reality of marauders. (this does not apply to this game, it's just general commentary) They worry about rape... when later they learn people are
eating each other
.

It's bleak man.
 

mckmas8808

Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Thank you.

When I first started reading the Ellen Page stuff I was dying to post this to stop the insanity. Unfortunately I was finishing up a ban so we had to suffer through a few dozen pages of it :p

You knew about this before it was reveled?
 

Replicant

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Globox_82 said:
Like I said in another comment. People would not go ape shit and start rapping each other and steal, murder. Just look how people behaved in Japan. Everyone tried to help each other, risking their lives. There was almost zero stealing. People were finding and returning things, etc.
This theory that we would all go insane is just silly. People would just try to reboot.

UK riot that happened not too long ago beg to differ.
 
Well, Jak definitely needs better treatment than some unproven studio. But yeah, platformers of the non-Nintendo kind are having a hard time these days. But most likely the rest of the studio is on a new IP for the PS4. Uncharted can't hold its fans for much longer, honestly, the formula is wearing thin.

UC can hold it fans but i think they need a next gen system to push it to next level .
As much as i love UC i don't want another one on PS3.
That why it's great that ND is doing a new IP so late in the system life.
 

hey_it's_that_dog

benevolent sexism
Like I said in another comment. People would not go ape shit and start rapping each other and steal, murder. Just look how people behaved in Japan. Everyone tried to help each other, risking their lives. There was almost zero stealing. People were finding and returning things, etc.
This theory that we would all go insane is just silly. People would just try to reboot.

In a persistently dangerous environment with scarce resources, the natural course of events would be for small groups of humans to work together, but when a conflict arose between two groups, they'd fight, to the death if necessary.

It's not like a localized disaster, where people remain civilized and people who were unaffected offer help and support. It's the full disintegration of civilization.
 

UrbanRats

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Like I said in another comment. People would not go ape shit and start rapping each other and steal, murder. Just look how people behaved in Japan. Everyone tried to help each other, risking their lives. There was almost zero stealing. People were finding and returning things, etc.
This theory that we would all go insane is just silly. People would just try to reboot.

It's absolutely not the same thing, are you kidding me?
The level of cooperation would probably depend on the scarcity of goods, resulting in a lot of ruthlessness.
In Japan they were in a mental situation where they KNEW that the rest of the world (and the rest of Japan) was still an intact and normal place, they knew the government and everything was still intact.
Ofcourse they showed quite the moral rigor there, but look at other tragedies, like New Orleans and such, now apply the thought that all the world is fucked, that no matter what, nobody is EVER going to rescue you.
When your skills and resources are so limited, you don't have the luxury to "reboot", not in the way you're suggesting, anyway.
And some people would take advantage of this, would steal, kill, rape and so on, just because they can.
The rest of the people, would kill and steal out of fear of being killed in the first place.
So it's kind of a vicious circle.

We are much more prone to empathy and gentle and educated, i'll give you that, but it wouldn't take long, to forget all that due to famine and death, a bunch of generations tops, imo.
 

Vercimber

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Like I said in another comment. People would not go ape shit and start rapping each other and steal, murder. Just look how people behaved in Japan. Everyone tried to help each other, risking their lives. There was almost zero stealing. People were finding and returning things, etc.
This theory that we would all go insane is just silly. People would just try to reboot.

It really depends on the extend of the damage and what's "rebootable." In The Road, the implication is that the entire world is irredeemably lost, that nature as we know it is dead, and that to survive means constant travel through a blighted earth searching for food, water, etc. Notwithstanding the theme of the "good" ("the fire" that the father and son take with them and that a few others share), human beings would go apeshit after a number of years, when they're forced to acknowledge that human kindness and organization are, on a large scale, for naught.
 

Cartman86

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Like I said in another comment. People would not go ape shit and start rapping each other and steal, murder. Just look how people behaved in Japan. Everyone tried to help each other, risking their lives. There was almost zero stealing. People were finding and returning things, etc.
This theory that we would all go insane is just silly. People would just try to reboot.

I don't know. Will Smith is a rapper and I don't remember him doing that in I Am Legend.
 

Mikey Jr.

Member
Wow, close to 4000 posts for just a trailer.

Also, on GameTrailers, Last of Us is like one of the highest viewed trailers out of all the VGA trailers.

The power of the dogs. I love it.
 

arne

Member
I have met TTP and the world is right again. That is all.

I think the composer that we're working with has been outed. If not right now, it will be soon. He's great.
 
I have met TTP and the world is right again. That is all.

I think the composer that we're working with has been outed. If not right now, it will be soon. He's great.

HYPE HYPE HYPE!!!

Please, give us anything. After Uncharted 3 you expect me to be patient?!!!
 
Me too. Awesome music. Reminds me of Gustavo Santaolalla who did the music for the movie Motorcycle Diaries (see also Ronroco, his solo album).

I love the instrument used, which according to wiki, is a charango (a sort of "guitar" in South America). I presume it's the same instrument used here or at least it sounds similar. Such a moody instrument.

I wonder if Greg Edmonson is doing the music.

Same here! I thought it sounded like a more simplistic version of the song Iguazu, which was featured in Deadwood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfusxHokCDg

The song that plays after (Deadwood spoilers)
Wild Bill Hickok gets shot.

Edit: Wow, posted the exact same thing as Wouwie.

Damn, you guys have great ears :p

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...us-scored-by-oscar-winner-gustavo-santaolalla
 
"He's awesome," said Neil Druckmann, creative director and writer on The Last Of Us. "He picks and chooses what he works on; he could work on all these big movies. We brought him in here, showed him the game, walked him through the whole story and what we're trying to do, and he said 'I want to be a part of this'."

this gonna be good :D
 

KingK

Member
Eurogamer said:
"He picks and chooses what he works on; he could work on all these big movies. We brought him in here, showed him the game, walked him through the whole story and what we're trying to do, and he said 'I want to be a part of this'."

Sounds like this game is gonna have a really good story. Awesome.
 

Squire

Banned
Niel Druckmann said:
"There's going to be horrific things happening in this game, but that's not the focus of it. The monsters aren't the focus of it, it's the relationship between Joel and Ellie."

*birdman hand rub*
 
*birdman hand rub*

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spwolf

Member
i don't think that is the same as a life/death situation like a tsunami, earthquake, or zombie fungi outbreak ha.

Katrina? Police crying on their radios from barricaded police stations with gangs shooting at them?

UK Riots? People stealing and burning things down just for the heck of it?



Japanese is different culture from west.
 

CorrisD

badchoiceboobies
UK riot that happened not too long ago beg to differ.

How is a "riot" that was essentially the worst of the teenagers in the UK who took advantage of a situation to loot and brake things an example of people in an end of world scenario?

You can bet if anything really bad started to happen to the population/world those kids would be the first to run home tail between their legs, I don't doubt that some will show the worst side of humanity in such an event, but if you look at the actual disasters that have hit people in recent times you will find a far different example, but there will always be troublemakers regardless of what is actually going on.
 

squidyj

Member
So I'm just going to make some notes on details I noticed during watching and rewatching the trailer and I hope people comment on it, it's not all going to be, or at least seem, meaningful, it's just details, many of which have probably been noticed already.

- A leaf fell and some of the leaves are reddened although there is a great deal of green. Could this be a precursor to fall?

-blood splatter on the wall looks like one big hit, cast-off in a single direction (lol what am I? Dexter?) surprise attack maybe?

- Where was Ellie running from? looks like she might have made a left turn as she stepped in that puddle of blood

- The Room Number is 322, obviously this is a secret code announcing the release date somehow. More realistically it suggests the action is in fact taking place inside a hotel, third floor, maybe the Dennison?

- Ellie's clothes are tattered and worn which is to be expected and her hair is dirty but otherwise she seems very well off, only the remnants of a scar on her eyebrow is visible suggesting she is and has been well-protected in this world for some time now but perhaps that wasn't always the case.

- Action moves up to room 424 on the fourth floor.

- There appears to be some sort of emblem or word on the back of not-joel's shirt, I cannot make it out, it might just be a tear in the fabric but it's hard to tell either way.

-Ellie carries a pocket-knife with her but Joel is using an improvised weapon, a piece of wood, to take out not-joel.

- Joel talks about dealing with a buddy and heads screen left, this is away from the room entrance where Ellie came in. Guy in room 322 might not be not-joel's buddy.

- Joel is much bloodier than Ellie, could be from the fight he was just in but there didn't seem to be that much blood involved.

- Ellie's shirt with palm-trees against the sun, what is that shirt?

- not-joel has a broken jaw and some sort of deformity on the side of his face, perhaps first stages of infection

- Ammo scarcity seems to be a real concern, limited shooting

- Joel looks to Ellie for... approval? what? Making sure she's ready, maybe.

- Cordyceps Zombies seem to be alert, able to pick up on the noise from cocking a gun. Suggests that a focus on stealth could be seen in the game?

- Stabbing the 'Zombie' in the back seems to be effective, they feel pain?

- The cars and barbed-wire form a blockade, was this a holdout area? Did Joel and Ellie come here thinking it might be safer?

- Shortly after the cameras pass by the characters we can hear Ellie call our 'Joel!'. What happened? It's followed by two gunshots so it seems maybe the zombies caught up to them?

-The Dennison is outside the blockade area, so they were in a hotel near the Dennison.
 

Kogepan

Member
How is a "riot" that was essentially the worst of the teenagers in the UK who took advantage of a situation to loot and brake things an example of people in an end of world scenario?

You can bet if anything really bad started to happen to the population/world those kids would be the first to run home tail between their legs, I don't doubt that some will show the worst side of humanity in such an event, but if you look at the actual disasters that have hit people in recent times you will find a far different example, but there will always be troublemakers regardless of what is actually going on.

Vancouver Canuck 'fans' beg to differ.
 

Replicant

Member
How is a "riot" that was essentially the worst of the teenagers in the UK who took advantage of a situation to loot and brake things an example of people in an end of world scenario?

You can bet if anything really bad started to happen to the population/world those kids would be the first to run home tail between their legs, I don't doubt that some will show the worst side of humanity in such an event, but if you look at the actual disasters that have hit people in recent times you will find a far different example, but there will always be troublemakers regardless of what is actually going on.

We're not talking about disaster though. We're talking about pandemic, a virus breaks lose. That will always inspire panic, anger, and anarchy in many people. The riot was an example of anger leading to anarchy so it's a perfectly good example of end of world scenario. Also, if resources become thin due to this pandemic, rest assured that our survival of the fittest will kick off and drive over each other.

On that note, I hope we get to play a segment when the actual pandemic took place. It's rare a game will allow us to play survival horror game during the panic and riot as the infection takes place. All of those people running around, looting in place, zombies all over the place. I think only Dead Rising 2 showed something similar but it's pretty enclosed inside a mall.
 

yencid

Member
- Joel looks to Ellie for... approval? what? Making sure she's ready, maybe.

what i got from this is that they've done that same thing before. Joel gets the monsters attention while ellie gets it from behind so joel can have enough time to finish it off.
 
Wow, close to 4000 posts for just a trailer.

Also, on GameTrailers, Last of Us is like one of the highest viewed trailers out of all the VGA trailers.

The power of the dogs. I love it.

And > 600k views on youtube and gametrailers, 7K likes on facebook, etc etc. I think the reaction they got from this trailer has surpassed all their expectations.
 

Replicant

Member
- Joel talks about dealing with a buddy and heads screen left, this is away from the room entrance where Ellie came in. Guy in room 322 might not be not-joel's buddy.

Was it "and then we deal with his body" or his "buddy"? I thought he said "his body", which makes sense to me since there's no other buddies to take care of but they have (dead) bodies lying around, which may not be a good thing since it attracts the infecteds?

OR like in Walking Dead (spoiler for TV only viewers)
everyone is already infected and all it takes is for them to die to turn into fungimon/fungi monsters).
 

WinFonda

Member
Me too. Awesome music. Reminds me of Gustavo Santaolalla who did the music for the movie Motorcycle Diaries (see also Ronroco, his solo album).

Holy crap. This is gonna be amazing. In addition to Ron roco, everyone needs to listen to the 21 grams soundtrack. I could imagine almost every track being used in this game. This might be one of the best game soundtracks of all time...

Here are some youtube links

Gustavo Santaolalla - Should I Let Her Know?


Gustavo Santaolalla - Can Emptiness Be Filled?

Gustavo Santaolalla - Can Light Be Found In The Darkness?

Gustavo Santaolalla - Do We Lose 21 Grams?

Gustavo Santaolalla - Shake, Rattle, and Roll


That last one is really interesting. It has Benicio Del Toro vocals and it reminded me of The Last of Us teaser trailer with the VO.

Yeah, this game is gonna be incred =)
 
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