Does a new console being outsold by its predecessor happens often?
There is no 3G standalone.
There is no 3G standalone.
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Media Create Sales: Week 50, 2011 (Dec 12 - Dec 18)
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hosannainexcelsis
Member
Sony better start getting into panic mode.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
I don't think SCE survives a 3DS-like price drop in the first 6 months. Sony has to ride this out. Any "break glass in case of emergency" software they have better be in production right now.
electroplankton
Banned
Kirby well over 500k.
IE GO over 200k.
Gundam ca. 90k.
IE GO over 200k.
Gundam ca. 90k.
Disappointing numbers for Vita. Less than 100k in the christmas week means that sales will likely drop under 20k at the end of january.
Quite frankly there aren't many reasons to buy a Vita for japanese gamers, the lineup is so poor and the price is high compared to 3DS.
Sony needs to drop the bombs announcing big games for the system.
Quite frankly there aren't many reasons to buy a Vita for japanese gamers, the lineup is so poor and the price is high compared to 3DS.
Sony needs to drop the bombs announcing big games for the system.
Vyse The Legend
Member
During a holiday rush, desperate people will buy whatever is available.
Yeah, this sounds like the last of the WiFi and 3G combos inventories being snatched up with 3G standalones being avoided.
Doesn't seem bad at all, Sony just didn't really read the market right.
Even if you add Vita and PSP sales together the 3DS nearly sold 3 times as much - I don't think that's what they planned. Tracking behind the 3DS with its lackluster perceived launch is really surprising.
I know, and every year I have to ask the same question. It was selling awfully and now all of the sudden the Wii is the one to get.
Again, every 3G model has Wi-Fi.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
[Nintex];33803383 said:
A multi-system release isn't going to help the Vita.
They really have literally nothing we know about that can save the system.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
4gamer gives us a New Year present before their holiday
http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20111228008/
3DS 482200
PSP 101121
Wii 91176
PS3 75943
Vita 72479
DSi LL 8,470
DSi 5,894
Xbox 360 4,245
PS2 1,582
DS Lite 32
1. Mario Kart 7 - 260,836/1,050,706
2. Mosou Orochi 2 - 200,526/200,526 - New
3. Super Mario 3D Land - 174,566/1,011,709
4. Monster Hunter Tri G (all versions) - 155,069/885,456
5. Final Fantasy XIII-2 (all versions) - 118,816/643,033
6. Kirby's Return to Dream Land - 114,545/513,061
7. Just Dance Wii - 96,771/420,064
8. SD Gundam G-Generation 3D - 90,873/90,873 - New
9. Inazuma Eleven Go - 86,026/221,285
10. Inazuma Eleven Striker 2012 - 85,117/85,117 - New
Wow Vita is dead
What the hell, it sold 7x less than 3DS so even accounting for the price difference it's like 5-6x more. This thing is dead in Japan. Only hope is NA and Europe.hosannainexcelsis
Member
There are no 3G standalone units - it's either Wi-Fi only or Wi-Fi/3G together.
You mean the Wi-Fi and 3G/Wi-Fi SKUs.
And there haven't been any widespread reports of the cheaper Wi-Fi only model being supply constrained.
More like Playstation Mors, amirite?
Oh, my mistake. What's the mark up on the WiFi/3G over standalone WiFi?
electroplankton
Banned
Inazuma Eleven Strikers Xtreme 2012 started better than the original version, didn't it?
Level-5 redeemed.
Level-5 redeemed.
mugurumakensei
Member
DCharlie's 800k prediction for MH officially ruined.
I'm spoiled. Where's Chris? =P
Media Create Sales: Week 51, 2011 (Dec 19 - Dec 25)
01./03. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) {2011-12-01} - 260,836 / 1,050,706 (+43%)
02./00. [PS3] Warriors Orochi 2 (Koei Tecmo) {2011-12-22} - 200,526 / NEW
03./05. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land (Nintendo) {2011-11-03} - 174,566 / 1,011,709 (+55%)
04./02. [3DS] Monster Hunter Tri G (Capcom) {2011-12-10} - 155,069 / 885,456 (-26%)
05./01. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII-2 (Square Enix) {2011-12-15} - 118,816 / 643,033 (-77%)
06./06. [WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land (Nintendo) {2011-10-27} - 114,545 / 513,061 (+61%)
07./09. [WII] Just Dance Wii (Nintendo) {2011-10-13} - 96,771 / 420,064 (+120%)
08./00. [3DS] SD Gundam G Generation 3D (Bandai Namco) {2011-12-22} - 90,873 / NEW
09./04. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go: Shine / Dark (Level 5) {2011-12-15} - 86,026 / 221,285 (-36%)
10./00. [WII] Inazuma Eleven Strikers 2012 Xtreme (Level 5) {2011-12-22} - 85,117 / NEW
11./11. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) {2010-07-08} - 71,461 / 2,200,697 (+68%)
12./00. [PSP] Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A's Portable: The Gears of Destiny (Bandai Namco) {2011-12-22} - 57,320 / NEW
13./10. [WII] PokePark 2: Beyond the World (Pokemon Co.) {2011-11-12} - 55,344 / 219,362 (+26%)
14./17. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii: Ketteiban (Bandai Namco) {2011-11-23} - 55,256 / 155,539 (+84%)
15./13. [WII] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games (Nintendo) {2011-12-08} - 52,611 / 117,185 (+53%)
16./00. [PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Dubbed Edition (Square Enix) {2011-12-22} - 51,156 / NEW
17./12. [NDS] Magician's Quest: Osharena Mahoutsukai (Konami) {2011-12-10} - 50,074 / 131,184 (+43%)
18./20. [NDS] One Piece: Gigant Battle! 2 New World (Bandai Namco) {2011-11-17} - 49,921 / 257,379 (+76%)
19./16. [WII] Wii Sports Resort with Wii Remote Plus (Nintendo) {2010-11-11} - 48,929 / 782,975 (+59%)
20./21. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) {2008-04-10} - 43,752 / 3,428,903
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Media Create Sales: Japanese Sales database <-download it here
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Media Create Sales: Week 50, 2011 (Dec 12 - Dec 18)[/QUOTE]
Media Create Sales: Week 51, 2011 (Dec 19 - Dec 25)
01./03. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) {2011-12-01} - 260,836 / 1,050,706 (+43%)
02./00. [PS3] Warriors Orochi 2 (Koei Tecmo) {2011-12-22} - 200,526 / NEW
03./05. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land (Nintendo) {2011-11-03} - 174,566 / 1,011,709 (+55%)
04./02. [3DS] Monster Hunter Tri G (Capcom) {2011-12-10} - 155,069 / 885,456 (-26%)
05./01. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII-2 (Square Enix) {2011-12-15} - 118,816 / 643,033 (-77%)
06./06. [WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land (Nintendo) {2011-10-27} - 114,545 / 513,061 (+61%)
07./09. [WII] Just Dance Wii (Nintendo) {2011-10-13} - 96,771 / 420,064 (+120%)
08./00. [3DS] SD Gundam G Generation 3D (Bandai Namco) {2011-12-22} - 90,873 / NEW
09./04. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go: Shine / Dark (Level 5) {2011-12-15} - 86,026 / 221,285 (-36%)
10./00. [WII] Inazuma Eleven Strikers 2012 Xtreme (Level 5) {2011-12-22} - 85,117 / NEW
11./11. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) {2010-07-08} - 71,461 / 2,200,697 (+68%)
12./00. [PSP] Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A's Portable: The Gears of Destiny (Bandai Namco) {2011-12-22} - 57,320 / NEW
13./10. [WII] PokePark 2: Beyond the World (Pokemon Co.) {2011-11-12} - 55,344 / 219,362 (+26%)
14./17. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii: Ketteiban (Bandai Namco) {2011-11-23} - 55,256 / 155,539 (+84%)
15./13. [WII] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games (Nintendo) {2011-12-08} - 52,611 / 117,185 (+53%)
16./00. [PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Dubbed Edition (Square Enix) {2011-12-22} - 51,156 / NEW
17./12. [NDS] Magician's Quest: Osharena Mahoutsukai (Konami) {2011-12-10} - 50,074 / 131,184 (+43%)
18./20. [NDS] One Piece: Gigant Battle! 2 New World (Bandai Namco) {2011-11-17} - 49,921 / 257,379 (+76%)
19./16. [WII] Wii Sports Resort with Wii Remote Plus (Nintendo) {2010-11-11} - 48,929 / 782,975 (+59%)
20./21. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) {2008-04-10} - 43,752 / 3,428,903
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| System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
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| 3DS | 482,200 | 367,691 | 0 | 4,084,190 | 0 | 4,084,191 |
| PSP # | 101,121 | 64,468 | 177,691 | 2,000,866 | 2,798,338 | 18,666,617 |
| WII | 91,176 | 60,916 | 131,761 | 850,375 | 1,597,131 | 12,130,013 |
| PS3 | 75,943 | 65,119 | 64,228 | 1,481,696 | 1,509,700 | 7,569,186 |
| PSV | 72,479 | 324,859 | 0 | 397,338 | 0 | 397,338 |
| NDS # | 14,396 | 9,155 | 191,583 | 651,985 | 2,772,043 | 32,802,684 |
| 360 | 4,245 | 3,584 | 5,298 | 113,095 | 207,118 | 1,533,592 |
| PS2 | 1,582 | 1,400 | 2,604 | 76,355 | 83,439 | 21,772,448 |
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| ALL | 843,142 | 897,192 | 573,165 | 9,655,900 | 8,967,769 | 98,956,069 |
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| PSP | 101,121 | 64,468 | 177,691 | 2,000,866 | 2,722,751 | 18,490,652 |
| DSiLL | 8,470 | 5,600 | 92,329 | 343,379 | 1,392,878 | 2,290,963 |
| DSi | 5,894 | 3,523 | 93,464 | 287,911 | 1,156,743 | 5,831,632 |
| DSL | 32 | 32 | 5,790 | 20,695 | 222,422 | 18,094,618 |
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There is no 3G standalone there is the wifi model at 25k yen and the wifi/3G at 30k yen, only the wifi model had some sold-out during the launch week but normally it has been restocked since then.
Edit:beaten
Man I was totally wrong with my predictions for that one
I totally expected it to bomb worse than any other Level 5 games this year...I'm going to guess, christmas week with the Wii selling a lot. Maybe it'll be more frontloaded than the original?
Vita was PS3-ed the day Nintendo dropped the price and got MH because it virtually costs double of what the 3DS costs now (between PSP and DS there never was a difference of >5000Y). I was waiting to see the initial performance before calling this but it's pretty clear now.
I'd say the future outlook seem even worse, PS3 at least had big name games announced.
Road was right all along!
I'd say the future outlook seem even worse, PS3 at least had big name games announced.
Road was right all along!
Paracelsus
Member
I think the devastating effort on Nintendo's side during the past eight months really made Sony look awful at launch, more or less like when people were retaliating against N when PSV incomplete E3 price was announced but tenfold.
Not the same situation, PS3 screwed itself in the beginning, competition (for third party software) was nothing compared to what the 3DS represents.
Not the same situation, PS3 screwed itself in the beginning, competition (for third party software) was nothing compared to what the 3DS represents.
milanbaros
Member?
Denial? The number is terrible.
UncleSporky
Member
Pac-fucking-man.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
And by "titles", you mean MonHun. Looking at the continued strong sales of 3G it's kind of hard to not draw a direct correlation.
Sony's too busy financing a bunch of PS3 games that struggle to sell 1 million copies.
The denial will last well until next-next-gen. Better get used to it. I'm trying.
After the disastrous zelda performance I wonder if nintendo will bail out of that franchise
It wasnt doing too hot in japan, europe and na
Just discontinuing it for one or two gens in favour of wii sports 3 and wii fit 3 woukd be much better for the wii as the typical gamer that is interested in zelda isnt paying attention to nintendo anymore
It wasnt doing too hot in japan, europe and na
Just discontinuing it for one or two gens in favour of wii sports 3 and wii fit 3 woukd be much better for the wii as the typical gamer that is interested in zelda isnt paying attention to nintendo anymore
MH3G is doing pretty well too. Its tracking the same numbers as SM3DL, actually better so. It's almost 900K now and Capcom shipped 1M. It should meet it by the end of the year.
Capcom should easily meet its 1.2M fiscal year shipped easily now. Which is pretty freaking good considering how early and young the portable is.
Capcom should easily meet its 1.2M fiscal year shipped easily now. Which is pretty freaking good considering how early and young the portable is.
that is the point. Sony usually does not read the market well, timing, games nothing makes sense. That thing is something both nintendo and MS do very well.
Great Vita price, but launches in Japan with Western games, instead it skips western holiday season and will launch , with economic crisis, in february at a premium price (despite being good for what the hardware offers). Weird to say the least.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
It was obvious from the start that the Vita had zero chance of beating, or even keeping pace with the 3DS, but this is just plain BAD.
RyougaSaotome
Member
Ouch, as others have said there's really no spinning this. Those are bad numbers no matter how you look at them.
While the system has plenty for me personally, it lacks that big, broad mainstream title. Losing MH is proving to be devastating.
While the system has plenty for me personally, it lacks that big, broad mainstream title. Losing MH is proving to be devastating.
More like, Sony doesn't have anything on the level of Mario/Kart that are guaranteed to sell massively, and doesn't have MH anymore.
I thought it was doing better than TP in all territories?
Sho_Nuff82
Member
I don't understand how this wasn't priority one for the console, before the specs were even finalized.[Nintex];33803526 said: