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lantus

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Does Verizon offer that feature? I'd love to be able to do that with my phone.

Verizon does, in fact every major carrier does, in the US at least. I use it all the time with my Razr, it does cost extra though, but getting to use 4G on all my devices is just plain awesome.
 

Kurdel

Banned
Thaks for your answers concerning Peace Walker and Crisis Core!

many of us have phones that the vita can tether to, so we won't be missing out ;)

Definately!

I have never come close to busting my 6 gig cap on my iPhone plan, even with my iPad. The Vita will help with that :D!
 

kamorra

Fuck Cancer
So I have a EU and a US account on my PS3. The US one has a lot of PSP content but I want to use the EU account on the Vita. Will I be able to use the content from the US account by transferring stuff via my PS3?

Anyone, please? I realize that the Vita isn't out in EU yet but maybe someone tried it already with a japanese model.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Assuming downloads are roughly the same price as Amazon I'm basically using the trade-ins to get PSN cards to go digital. Some of the retail prices seem ridiculous. There should definitely be a £10 difference between Uncharted and Wipeout for example.
GAME dont charge too much for games, they just don't discount from rrp as much as online stores do. if PSN games aren't discounted from rrp, they'll be £39.99 too.

this is my biggest concern really. i'd like to have more games digitally, but physical might be cheaper (crazy considering no memory cards to duplicate) *and* you can trade them in later on. digital might be a premium feature for convenience. i hope not.
 

Carl

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No, but why would you want to use GPS on your Vita when most people have smartphones on them more than a gaming console? The benefit of using a GPS on your phone is that you always have it, and there are tons of "GPS smartphone" accessories/holders for your car that make it more convenient.

They may not even make one of those for the Vita. Otherwise, it's kind of bulky to hold while you're driving.

Because what he was saying is, "if any game ever comes out in the future that is enhanced by the 3G units features (GPS, 3G) i would prefer to be safe seeing as it's only $X more"
 
This is just my personal opinion, but I think the measly extra $10 for the 8GB will benefit you in the long run.

We have no idea what games will require on-board memory for DLC (some will go on the game card), and you never know how big some system updates may be. Also, some demos I've seen are 1-2GB.

That's half your card, not including any saves. 4GB IMO is almost unusable unless you're strictly never going to connect your Vita to wifi whatsoever.



99.9% of phones that can tether have GPS capabilities. They also have multiple GPS options, of which the Vita only has one.

I see the phone argument thrown out a lot and while it is valid there are two nuances that seem to be overlooked.

#1 Almost every major carrier charges $25+/m for tethering functionality. (and for some of us who are grandfathered into an old unlimited plan that's not even an option)

#2 Your phone's battery will die quickly. I remember tethering with a Galaxy s2 while plugged into an AC and it was draining juice faster then it was charging.
 

Number45

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There's a new Inside Vita video out, showcasing Play/Create/Share (so a little LBP and MNR).

No, but why would you want to use GPS on your Vita when most people have smartphones on them more than a gaming console? The benefit of using a GPS on your phone is that you always have it, and there are tons of "GPS smartphone" accessories/holders for your car that make it more convenient.

They may not even make one of those for the Vita. Otherwise, it's kind of bulky to hold while you're driving.
The GPS has potential as a gaming application as well.
 

Magnalon

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Anyone, please? I realize that the Vita isn't out in EU yet but maybe someone tried it already with a japanese model.

Don't quote me on this but I think your PSN account is tied to your card.

So you could have one 4GB card be your US account, and a 4GB card be your EU account, and just switch when you need to.
 

Magnalon

Neo Member
The GPS has potential as a gaming application as well.

It's basically 56k over the air in terms of gaming.

The reason our smartphones load text and websites so well over 3G is because it downscales the site into a mobile version, which includes lower-res pictures and such.

You won't be able to truly game over 3G.

Unless you're talking about something like FourSquare, where you tweet/post your scores based on a GPS location, but would you really want to pay $50 upfront and $25 a month for something like that? Basically a telnet program from the 1980s?
 

btkadams

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I see the phone argument thrown out a lot and while it is valid there are two nuances that seem to be overlooked.

#1 Almost every major carrier charges $25+/m for tethering functionality. (and for some of us who are grandfathered into an old unlimited plan that's not even an option)

#2 Your phone's battery will die quickly. I remember tethering with a Galaxy s2 while plugged into an AC and it was draining juice faster then it was charging.
they do? my carrier definitely does not (telus). tether data is a part of my regular cell phone data and i don't get charged monthly for the feature. that sucks if it's not the case for others.

the battery does get used much faster, but i still had my iphone last the whole day when i tethered it for a couple hours to my computer. it got to 0 at like 7pm though ha. i don't see why anyone would be playing their vita online for longer than that period of time without an available wifi connection.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Anyone, please? I realize that the Vita isn't out in EU yet but maybe someone tried it already with a japanese model.
doesnt work, sorry. if you have an EU PSN account, you will only be able to transfer PSP games bought from that account to your vita

you could use your US account and transfer the psp games, then buy EU physical games. (but then online pass games wouldn't work online)

alternatively factory reset the vita to switch accounts, which takes a few minutes
 

Raine

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I'm not sure how many of you are familiar with what 3G is. It's basically 56k over the air.

The reason our smartphones load text and websites so well over 3G is because it downscales the site into a mobile version, which includes lower-res pictures and such.

You won't be able to game over 3G.

Unless you're talking about something like FourSquare, where you tweet/post your scores based on a GPS location, but would you really want to pay $50 upfront and $25 a month for something like that? Basically a telnet program from the 1980s?
I'm pretty sure everyone here realizes you can't game over 3G. The GPS doesn't require use of 3G if I recall correctly
 
Don't quote me on this but I think your PSN account is tied to your card.

So you could have one 4GB card be your US account, and a 4GB card be your EU account, and just switch when you need to.

False. You need to factory reset when you want to switch PSN accounts of different regions. It's not as easy as swapping memory cards.
 

DMeisterJ

Banned
Yeah, I think I might go with a 3G/Wi-Fi unit and chill with an 8 GB card until they drop in price or PS1 support comes. I'm going strictly retail, so I'll only need space for whatever PSP/PS1 game I'm playing and the occasional demo. It'd be nice to be future-proofed against any game using the Wi-Fi in a meaningful way as well.
 
they do? my carrier definitely does not (telus). tether data is a part of my regular cell phone data and i don't get charged monthly for the feature. that sucks if it's not the case for others.

the battery does get used much faster, but i still had my iphone last the whole day when i tethered it for a couple hours to my computer. it got to 0 at like 7pm though ha. i don't see why anyone would be playing their vita online for longer than that period of time without an available wifi connection.

I'm mainly interested in using it for some asynchronous games like hot shots or updating ghost laps in motorstorm rc or mod nation.

Also it may be different in other parts of the world but in the US I don't know of any major carrier that includes tethering for free.
 

Carl

Member
I'm not sure how many of you are familiar with what 3G is. It's basically 56k over the air.

The reason our smartphones load text and websites so well over 3G is because it downscales the site into a mobile version, which includes lower-res pictures and such.

You won't be able to game over 3G.

Unless you're talking about something like FourSquare, where you tweet/post your scores based on a GPS location, but would you really want to pay $50 upfront and $25 a month for something like that? Basically a telnet program from the 1980s?

3G =/= GPS.

Also, you can play multiplayer over 3G - asynchronous multiplayer that is.
 

bodine1231

Member
I was going to order my games from Amazon as it has release date delivery but when I go to my checkout the games wont arrive until 2 days after the Vita is released (I have the early bundle at Gamestop). I don't think I can have the Vita sitting there with no games to play on so I'll be getting the games when I pickup the system. Is Gamestop doing a midnight launch for the early bundle?
 

Kurdel

Banned
they do? my carrier definitely does not (telus). tether data is a part of my regular cell phone data and i don't get charged monthly for the feature. that sucks if it's not the case for others.

There are old Telus plans where tethering is pay per use.

But that is only when it is a super old plans with a CDMA phone that can tether. Again, I am sure only a dozen people are in that situation...

All the new plans include tethering for no extra charge. Sucks for any other carrier if they charge for it! Bell doesn't charge extra either.
 
I forgot to add that important step :D

But yea if you're switching cards you shouldn't care about a factory reset regardless.

More info for the OP:

http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/15/2638998/playstation-vita-psn-accounts-memory-card

Switching cards is as simple as popping it out and popping in the new one. For example, if someone got a 4GB stick with FEB and bought a 32GB stick, they could easily swap it out if they had a specific game on one stick and not the other.

Factory Reseting the Vita is a little bit time consuming and a hassle. Much different than swapping out memory sticks.
 
I was going to order my games from Amazon as it has release date delivery but when I go to my checkout the games wont arrive until 2 days after the Vita is released (I have the early bundle at Gamestop). I don't think I can have the Vita sitting there with no games to play on so I'll be getting the games when I pickup the system. Is Gamestop doing a midnight launch for the early bundle?
nothing yet which is kinda odd....figured theyd have one, and if they are figured it would be posted by now.

You can just check randomly here for a announcement. But im sure the second it gets announced (if), itll be all over this thread.
 

jcutner

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"Just delivered to my door! 100% legit.. they broke the street date.

Track your package

Date Time Location Event Details
Feb 8 2012 01:22:00 PM WILLOWDALE CA Delivered"

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VanWinkle

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I'm not sure how many of you are familiar with what 3G is. It's basically 56k over the air.

The reason our smartphones load text and websites so well over 3G is because it downscales the site into a mobile version, which includes lower-res pictures and such.

You won't be able to game over 3G.

Unless you're talking about something like FourSquare, where you tweet/post your scores based on a GPS location, but would you really want to pay $50 upfront and $25 a month for something like that? Basically a telnet program from the 1980s?

Not that I disagree with you on limitations, but come on, 56k? If I do a speed test on my 3g phone, I get a good 2mb/s download speed. How is that explained?
 

btkadams

Member
That is a lie.

I can play online games just fine over 3G on my iPhone.

The PS Vita is on the HSPA+ network. I get up to 15 Mbs on my iPhone for download speed on the same network.

i think the problems with online has to do more with ping, but yeah, the guy claiming 3G is 56k is horribly incorrect. i've used my phone data to browse the internet on my laptop and it is still fast.
"Just delivered to my door! 100% legit.. they broke the street date.

Track your package

Date Time Location Event Details
Feb 8 2012 01:22:00 PM WILLOWDALE CA Delivered"

from redflagdeals
holy shit! by 2 weeks? that has to be a record, especially for a big store.
 

aknbad30

Banned
I've been so back and forth about whether to get a Vita or not, its pathetic. I want the system but there are two things I'm afraid of:
1. A major price drop later this year
2. Failure due to major advances in cellphone tech in 2012(GS3, iPhone5, etc).
 
That is a lie.

I can play online games just fine over 3G on my iPhone.

The PS Vita is on the HSPA+ network. I get up to 15 Mbs on my iPhone for download speed on the same network.

I was under the assumption that the Vita physically didn't allow you to use 3G for traditional online multiplayer, but that you can use it for a-sync multiplayer since latency isn't an issue there.
 

patsu

Member
I was under the assumption that the Vita physically didn't allow you to use 3G for traditional online multiplayer, but that you can use it for a-sync multiplayer since latency isn't an issue there.

It's up to the developers. I remember some games will have 3G specific game modes. Most don't.
 

patsu

Member
Amazon.ca just shipped my vita.

Jelly, GAF?

Grrr.... I have been visiting my GameStop every other day to see if they'd give me my pre-ordered FEB Vita. ^_^

It's just next to my favorite lunch place, so they'll definitely see me until next Wednesday.
 

Number45

Member
I'm not sure how many of you are familiar with what 3G is. It's basically 56k over the air.
Even ignoring the fact that I'm completely aware of what 3G is (I get 10Mbps down at work though, so you need to work on your knowledge), there's no mention of 3G in what you quoted - I'm talking about the GPS.

It's not technically impossible to game over 3G either, but that's the decision that has been made for us.
 
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