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Alcatraz |OT| The Island is Over There
- Thread starter Keyser Soze
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Hey! that last episode wasn't THAT bad... not at all...
I'm really hoping for this to get serialized as the episodes go on.
There you go but I don't think that will happen, also there was no close up to the board so it will be hard to tell.
I'm really hoping for this to get serialized as the episodes go on.
There you go but I don't think that will happen, also there was no close up to the board so it will be hard to tell.
Speculation:
For a while I thought that maybe
For a while I thought that maybe
Sam Neill's character was the one letting the people out to do his bidding and then to re-catch them with the goods he "asked" them to get, but then the last scene in this previous episode with the science team sort of makes that seem less likely.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
I really liked that second to last scene, where
.
Also, the main plot is starting to become clearer:
. The fact that the keys still exist suggest
.
It's not a lot to go on, but it somehow makes events a little more grounded in a central purpose.
we find out that Hauser and his team are just as clueless as Madsen
Also, the main plot is starting to become clearer:
there's someone underneath Alcatraz (who is possibly the MacGuffin and possibly a time traveler) that somebody out there wants
they are still there
It's not a lot to go on, but it somehow makes events a little more grounded in a central purpose.
Yeah, as big LOST fan, I'm really wanting this show to rope me in, but so far I'm finding that I could not care less about the first 3/4 of the show and catching the inmates and am really only interested in the last 5 minutes where they trickle information on how the prisoners disappeared.
It's like 4/5 Law and Order and 1/5 Lost - unfortunately the show thus far is too focused on the Law and Order aspect and other than Sam Neil at the end, they don't seem all that interested in figuring out how this all happened.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Impressed that they keep knocking down mysteries every episode. It's pretty thin stuff (and that Warden's dialogue is like Stephen King high school writing) but I can't say I'm not intrigued. Powerhouses like Leon Rippy keep me interested.
It's too bad the main actress is so awful. In the last episode "Cal Sweeny" the "They didn't have seatbelt laws in the 50's" was such a cheesy way to end it.
Dreams-Visions
Member
So how is it so far, guys?
worth catching up on missed episodes?
worth catching up on missed episodes?
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Well at least it had Fichael Massbinder as Alcatraz Sawyer!
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
So far....eh. It's not bad, but it's not gripping either. I'm pretty much just watching in hopes that it picks up and gets more interesting. It does seem to be getting slightly better with each episode. But the "monster of the week" formula that its had so far will grow tiresome fast unless they mix it up now and then with some other stuff. And by other stuff I mean more than what happens in the last five minutes of each episode. It also does seem to be plagued by some lazy writing here and there, making plot devices out of really dumb ideas (Hurley's AC theory last week, that was way too much of a reach).
To the show's credit though, it does have me coming back every week so far...
Napoleonthechimp
Member
I only keep on coming back to see if something interesting actually happens for once.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I like it quite a bit. With the lack of good shows on basic channels now it is one of the better.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Something interesting happened every week, miraculously. It's just the procedural stuff in the preceding 43.5 minutes that's slowing up the works.
Also, nice to see Geri Jewell back on teevee.
Keyser Soze
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In terms of Lost, it has yet to hit its Walkabout. In terms of Fringe, it has yet to hit its Ability. There are however good foundations being laid in my opinion, and a few nice ideas could be built upon in future episode to make things really good.
Like Fringe, I feel the show will not do a big mythology episode until it gets it first batch of episodes (13) out of the way. If Alcatraz follows that same logic, Episode 14 will blow minds... it does have a back nine, right?
ivysaur, help!!
My only problem with the show thus far is that not everyone released back into the population seem to have a purpose (Cobbs & Nelson), so as someone that is watching for the mystery, these episodes felt...inconsequential and fillerish. I do like how quickly they are answering the questions, a nice change of pace from Lost.
The problem is they are not focusing on character development enough. In episode 1 of Lost they hook you in immediately with the Jack seeing his father and then further developing his backstory and everyone else's backstory. Alcatraz got off to a good start with us finding out
she was chasing her grandfather, who killed her partner
I mean if
your grandfather is basically back from the dead
dead souls
Member
It's a midseason show so a back nine isn't even in contention. If it's renewed it'll come back with season two in the fall.
AngmarsKing701
Member
I'll reiterate some of what I said earlier in this thread. They need a "super-villain" for lack of a better word. Stop catching the dude every week. Either that or if someone is pulling the strings, let's get a little more info on who. I hate how they're basically sitting around for one guy to apparently pop into existence (one at a time even) and start doing the same dumb shit that got him caught 40 years ago.
How about a criminal who isn't interested in picking up where he left off?
How about not all of these dudes popping up in San Fran? Or popping up in SF and making a run for it (like to Vegas). But so far it's been very formulaic. I'm really hoping they're about to mix things up here, otherwise this will veer into the ditch soon.
How about a criminal who isn't interested in picking up where he left off?
How about not all of these dudes popping up in San Fran? Or popping up in SF and making a run for it (like to Vegas). But so far it's been very formulaic. I'm really hoping they're about to mix things up here, otherwise this will veer into the ditch soon.
This is what I thought they would do with
the grandfather
I actually view the problem in a different way. They seem to do a lot of characterization actually, but it's centered around the wrong characters for the very start of the show. I think they're focusing too much on flashbacks so far that simultaneously show how poorly the inmates were treated and reveal the backstory for why they got there, but it never feels quite interesting enough when you know they'll just end up apprehended at the end of the episode anyway. With all the time spent on that, we actually get very little about the main cast.
I don't inherently mind a show where the focus is on other people than the main protagonist, but I don't think it's to the show's credit here because the people whose backstories they delve into and try to make you sympathize with the most are also...y'know, mass murderers and whatnot. Or the warden, who is amusing but unlikable. It also comes at the detriment of the crime procedural stuff which doesn't have the time to get as technical as other shows where the crimesolving is the main focus.
In essence, it feels like the show is just trying to hit too many buttons at once, be it a serial sci-fi mystery, episodic crime-procedural, human interest drama, historical fiction...cramming so many things into each hour that none of it feels very cohesive. It's going to take a lot of time for those pieces to fit into enough of a whole that it makes for a satisfying story, I'm afraid.
So, I decided to rewatch the episodes so I could dig for some clues. Found some nice interesting things, and some not so interesting things. lol I ended up buying each of the episodes off Sony's Video Unlimited service (PSN), which has the episodes in 1080p (looks far better than the 720p broadcasts: can see a lot more). Anyways, I'll just use this post for the first two episodes I rewatched:
Pilot
- Don't know if this is important or anything but the ship at the beginning transporting Hauser and the other cop to the rock in '63 was named Warden Kelvin.
- Jack Sylvane (2024) wakes up in the same confinement chamber Kip Nelson was put in in the third episode. The number on the inside of the door when opened is 9 (don't know if this amounts to anything).
- The board outside the Alcatraz facility after Jack wakes up, I'm pretty sure is shot onsite. All the sites listed on the board are for informational purposes related to the facility and not the show. There is a cool map displayed that you can pause on and read at just the right time.
- The number on the key on top of the ticket Jack displays at the dock is an 8. You can get a better picture later in the episode when opening the locker.
- Cool little character arc in the writing. At the beginning, Madsen tries to evade her superior's order of choosing a new partner. By the end of the episode, she picks one of her own choosing: Dr. Diego Suto.
- In Tiller's house, by the picture frame, a bunch of religious material is on display: a book called "The Bible: Looking Glass Illustrated" with a flower on the spine held up by bookends in the form of carvings of the Holy Bible and someone's hands in prayer. This is all I could find on the book on a quick search: http://www.amazon.com/Bible-Looking-Glass-Illustrated-Books/dp/B001Q2582G
- Dr. Diego Suto's four books are "The Inmates of Alcatraz," "Alcatraz by the Numbers," "Guards of Alcatraz," and "Alcatraz: Families and Friends."
- Dr. Diego Suto's comic store place thiny show issues of an Alcatraz comic in the background when first meeting Madsen.
- The receptionist guy at the facility with the locker room Jack goes to is reading Stephen King's Under the Dome. The poster below him when he tries to give Jack some change reads: "No the numbers don't add up. Start talking. Break the mental illness." Don't know if this has anything to do with the show.
- Right before Suto shows Madsen Jack's death certificate, he shows her a document stating Sylvane's release on March 4, 1963 (or at least that was the date it was signed), signed by the Office of the Attorney General (Robert Kennedy).
- When Jack talks to Madsen's grandfather (2002), the writers snuck in a reference to The Wizard of Oz, much in the same way Lost and Fringe did before it. Literally, there is a curtain in front of 2002 when he's talking to him. He also knows about the incident before it happens. During the talk: Madsen mentions something below the "hole."
- Jack's transfer notice has a goof on it. Lucy says Jack is 85 years old earlier in the episode, but here it says his date of birth is Jan 28, 1905 (or '06). The document also mentions something about insanitary conditions of "this man's" bird breeding activities." Whatever that means. Also, apparently he had previously been with a woman who was into dope and was suspected to be an addict as well. Nothing else interesting on here... well, he got a life sentence, but besides that.
- Nice little attention to detail. Alan's son mentions Sonya (Jack's ex-wife) died 4 years ago. Her tombstone reads: 1925 - 2008.
- "The 63's" is a reference to the inmates and guards that went missing in 1963.
- 302 People went missing: 256 prisoners, 46 guards. Of the close-ups I could see, in-between 2181 and 2462, some comments were written: "A:2181? A:2462?" above some writing with a reference to #2966. There's a drawing with the letters A and B and a question mark followed by the word "friends." A:2181 is white and nearly bald with some fuzz on the top of his head. Couldn't see his name. The guy next to him as referenced earlier is 2462. This one's name I could see: "INMATE/HELBIG, FRANK #AZ 2462." He has black hair combed over either side of his temples with a shadow of a goatee. There's a note just above a memo under his picture that says "Emergency ????" something. I think the question marks say "PACS", but not entirely sure. From the scan over next to Madsen, the names I saw were: "LARRY ????," "MATTHEW CLANCY," "BRETT STAR?," "SPENCER LOU?????," and "SCOTT HARRISON?" This is supposed to be the guards side I think, but in the middle there's pictures of inmates I saw from the close-up with Suto: #AZ 2181 was clearly visible (same pics).
- The date of the incident is March 21, 1963. Just as a reminder.
- Scene switches back to board with Suto where names of guards are clearly visible, with pictures: "?????? Sinclaire," "KACEY McDOUGALL," "KEVIN HALL," and "MILAN BASIC." Later, we get another close-up with Suto with more guards: "MELVAN BASIC," "DALE SIMPSON."
- In-between the two close-ups, we can see more names of inmates briefly next to Hauser: "INMATE STEPHENS, JAMES #AZ 2009" and "INMATE ROSSING, DEAN #AZ 20?2." The former looks like he's in his 70's and has glasses.
- Jack seems to think he knows Hauser, but Hauser doesn't recall how he could have.
- The code Hauser punches in to open the hatch is 6323.
- Hauser mentions Tiller was his friend to Jack after cracking him in the skull. Hauser knew about the incident and was expecting the 63's to come back. Tiller was killed by Jack, and it was mentioned earlier as if Tiller didn't expect to see him, and was in shock. If Tiller, was his friend, why didn't Hauser tell him about Jack or that the 63's might come back. Unless, of course, he had and Tiller didn't believe him.
- Just as a side note, when Hauser says "E.B. Tiller was my friend." It almost sounds like two voices were saying the line. One was Hauser's, but the other had a lower more monotone voice. lol Probably nothing, but just thought I would mention it.
That's everything... more or less. I might have forgot one or two things, but whatever. I'll write up the next episode soon here, but episodes 3 and 4 will have to wait.
Pilot
- Don't know if this is important or anything but the ship at the beginning transporting Hauser and the other cop to the rock in '63 was named Warden Kelvin.
- Jack Sylvane (2024) wakes up in the same confinement chamber Kip Nelson was put in in the third episode. The number on the inside of the door when opened is 9 (don't know if this amounts to anything).
- The board outside the Alcatraz facility after Jack wakes up, I'm pretty sure is shot onsite. All the sites listed on the board are for informational purposes related to the facility and not the show. There is a cool map displayed that you can pause on and read at just the right time.
- The number on the key on top of the ticket Jack displays at the dock is an 8. You can get a better picture later in the episode when opening the locker.
- Cool little character arc in the writing. At the beginning, Madsen tries to evade her superior's order of choosing a new partner. By the end of the episode, she picks one of her own choosing: Dr. Diego Suto.
- In Tiller's house, by the picture frame, a bunch of religious material is on display: a book called "The Bible: Looking Glass Illustrated" with a flower on the spine held up by bookends in the form of carvings of the Holy Bible and someone's hands in prayer. This is all I could find on the book on a quick search: http://www.amazon.com/Bible-Looking-Glass-Illustrated-Books/dp/B001Q2582G
- Dr. Diego Suto's four books are "The Inmates of Alcatraz," "Alcatraz by the Numbers," "Guards of Alcatraz," and "Alcatraz: Families and Friends."
- Dr. Diego Suto's comic store place thiny show issues of an Alcatraz comic in the background when first meeting Madsen.
- The receptionist guy at the facility with the locker room Jack goes to is reading Stephen King's Under the Dome. The poster below him when he tries to give Jack some change reads: "No the numbers don't add up. Start talking. Break the mental illness." Don't know if this has anything to do with the show.
- Right before Suto shows Madsen Jack's death certificate, he shows her a document stating Sylvane's release on March 4, 1963 (or at least that was the date it was signed), signed by the Office of the Attorney General (Robert Kennedy).
- When Jack talks to Madsen's grandfather (2002), the writers snuck in a reference to The Wizard of Oz, much in the same way Lost and Fringe did before it. Literally, there is a curtain in front of 2002 when he's talking to him. He also knows about the incident before it happens. During the talk: Madsen mentions something below the "hole."
- Jack's transfer notice has a goof on it. Lucy says Jack is 85 years old earlier in the episode, but here it says his date of birth is Jan 28, 1905 (or '06). The document also mentions something about insanitary conditions of "this man's" bird breeding activities." Whatever that means. Also, apparently he had previously been with a woman who was into dope and was suspected to be an addict as well. Nothing else interesting on here... well, he got a life sentence, but besides that.
- Nice little attention to detail. Alan's son mentions Sonya (Jack's ex-wife) died 4 years ago. Her tombstone reads: 1925 - 2008.
- "The 63's" is a reference to the inmates and guards that went missing in 1963.
- 302 People went missing: 256 prisoners, 46 guards. Of the close-ups I could see, in-between 2181 and 2462, some comments were written: "A:2181? A:2462?" above some writing with a reference to #2966. There's a drawing with the letters A and B and a question mark followed by the word "friends." A:2181 is white and nearly bald with some fuzz on the top of his head. Couldn't see his name. The guy next to him as referenced earlier is 2462. This one's name I could see: "INMATE/HELBIG, FRANK #AZ 2462." He has black hair combed over either side of his temples with a shadow of a goatee. There's a note just above a memo under his picture that says "Emergency ????" something. I think the question marks say "PACS", but not entirely sure. From the scan over next to Madsen, the names I saw were: "LARRY ????," "MATTHEW CLANCY," "BRETT STAR?," "SPENCER LOU?????," and "SCOTT HARRISON?" This is supposed to be the guards side I think, but in the middle there's pictures of inmates I saw from the close-up with Suto: #AZ 2181 was clearly visible (same pics).
- The date of the incident is March 21, 1963. Just as a reminder.
- Scene switches back to board with Suto where names of guards are clearly visible, with pictures: "?????? Sinclaire," "KACEY McDOUGALL," "KEVIN HALL," and "MILAN BASIC." Later, we get another close-up with Suto with more guards: "MELVAN BASIC," "DALE SIMPSON."
- In-between the two close-ups, we can see more names of inmates briefly next to Hauser: "INMATE STEPHENS, JAMES #AZ 2009" and "INMATE ROSSING, DEAN #AZ 20?2." The former looks like he's in his 70's and has glasses.
- Jack seems to think he knows Hauser, but Hauser doesn't recall how he could have.
- The code Hauser punches in to open the hatch is 6323.
- Hauser mentions Tiller was his friend to Jack after cracking him in the skull. Hauser knew about the incident and was expecting the 63's to come back. Tiller was killed by Jack, and it was mentioned earlier as if Tiller didn't expect to see him, and was in shock. If Tiller, was his friend, why didn't Hauser tell him about Jack or that the 63's might come back. Unless, of course, he had and Tiller didn't believe him.
- Just as a side note, when Hauser says "E.B. Tiller was my friend." It almost sounds like two voices were saying the line. One was Hauser's, but the other had a lower more monotone voice. lol Probably nothing, but just thought I would mention it.
That's everything... more or less. I might have forgot one or two things, but whatever. I'll write up the next episode soon here, but episodes 3 and 4 will have to wait.
Ernest Cobb
- Christian Latner is inmate # AZ 2036.
- Suto's "Inmates of Alcatraz"'s description on Rebecca's grandfather:
- Suto takes the book from Madsen and flips through pages which shows: "Jack Sylvane - Inmate 2024," "Tommy Hyndman - Inmate 2082," "Dale Shaben - Inmate 2113," "Eric Lingg - Inmate 2048," "Eric Lehrman - Inmate 2053," "Nick Bergstedt - Inmate 2007" (whom looks like the 70 year old guy I mentioned with the glasses, must've royally screwed that one up), "Rich Brown - Inmate 2117," and "Michael Viglietta - Inmate 2104."
- Cobb says, "There's 47 slots in the picket fence. 4. 7..." Of all the numbers he mentions (disregarding the various word play of slots and ) 4 and 7 the most. Usually as just 47. Supposedly 46 guards went missing on March 21, 1963. It could have something to do with that, but I doubt it.
- A nice little parallel/contrast in the writing. In the beginning of the episode, we find Cobb eating lunch, complete with picnic basket and blanket. This very same blanket is what covers the Warden's desk while dining when Cobb goes to see him about the request for solitary confinement. After reading the request, the Warden says, "Really beautiful, Edison," which could be a reference to Thomas Edison's supposed last words, "It's very beautiful over there" (as in the place he wants to move to). The Warden closes the conversation by stating that he would like to finish his meal in "private," which is a call back to Cobb's request (in the letter) which said "... the purpose of which is for me to take meals in private."
- There's a cool moment where Jack Bender (the director) captures Ernest Cobb looking into a cracked mirror, which distorts his face (as if referencing his split psyche). He was probably trying to capture the feeling of Cobb being this otherwise perfect son that was abandoned as if there was something wrong with him(which is reflected through this shattered mirror).
- One of my favorite lines in the episode: Suto: "The doctor says it might be temporary, but... it also might be not so temporary."
- I find it strange when Hauser asks Jack Sylvane if Lucy was a target he says, "I don't know." Not once, but twice. Seems pretty definite, but I agree with Hauser. How can you not know? Isn't it a yes or no question? This might be a clue to what happened to the inmates before "reappearing."
- Again, just a little nice nugget here. When Ernest Cobb is in his cell (before solitary) he's getting up and ready for the day. He begins by taking a piss, just when we expect to hear the sound, the scene cuts seconds later to Cobb washing his face with the running water from the faucet replacing the expected sound. This here is genius. The editing is absolutely perfect, selling without further delivery a routine morning check-up.
- As for the comments on why Rebecca doesn't stop Cobb on the roof while she has the chance, instead of announcing herself. I thought it was obvious that she saw him aiming the gun earlier, and was scared he was ready to shoot. So she announced herself to distract him; to break his focus in order to prevent him from shooting, which worked.
- Hauser's a boss. "Right handed?" "Yep." *shoots his right hand, Cobb screams* "No more shooting." lol
You know, this being my third time rewatching this episode. I'm amazed how much more there is to learn on repeat viewings, especially with shows like this that make it worth digging up the extra details. The pilot is easily one of my favorite episodes of the year, and which I feel is highly underrated... but that coupled with these latest episodes have been a joy to watch. The writing is extremely tight, and the mythology just continues to build, upping the ante with each succeeding episode. This seems like a nice companion piece to LOST and Fringe.
- Christian Latner is inmate # AZ 2036.
- Suto's "Inmates of Alcatraz"'s description on Rebecca's grandfather:
- Suto takes the book from Madsen and flips through pages which shows: "Jack Sylvane - Inmate 2024," "Tommy Hyndman - Inmate 2082," "Dale Shaben - Inmate 2113," "Eric Lingg - Inmate 2048," "Eric Lehrman - Inmate 2053," "Nick Bergstedt - Inmate 2007" (whom looks like the 70 year old guy I mentioned with the glasses, must've royally screwed that one up), "Rich Brown - Inmate 2117," and "Michael Viglietta - Inmate 2104."
- Cobb says, "There's 47 slots in the picket fence. 4. 7..." Of all the numbers he mentions (disregarding the various word play of slots and ) 4 and 7 the most. Usually as just 47. Supposedly 46 guards went missing on March 21, 1963. It could have something to do with that, but I doubt it.
- A nice little parallel/contrast in the writing. In the beginning of the episode, we find Cobb eating lunch, complete with picnic basket and blanket. This very same blanket is what covers the Warden's desk while dining when Cobb goes to see him about the request for solitary confinement. After reading the request, the Warden says, "Really beautiful, Edison," which could be a reference to Thomas Edison's supposed last words, "It's very beautiful over there" (as in the place he wants to move to). The Warden closes the conversation by stating that he would like to finish his meal in "private," which is a call back to Cobb's request (in the letter) which said "... the purpose of which is for me to take meals in private."
- There's a cool moment where Jack Bender (the director) captures Ernest Cobb looking into a cracked mirror, which distorts his face (as if referencing his split psyche). He was probably trying to capture the feeling of Cobb being this otherwise perfect son that was abandoned as if there was something wrong with him(which is reflected through this shattered mirror).
- One of my favorite lines in the episode: Suto: "The doctor says it might be temporary, but... it also might be not so temporary."
- I find it strange when Hauser asks Jack Sylvane if Lucy was a target he says, "I don't know." Not once, but twice. Seems pretty definite, but I agree with Hauser. How can you not know? Isn't it a yes or no question? This might be a clue to what happened to the inmates before "reappearing."
- Again, just a little nice nugget here. When Ernest Cobb is in his cell (before solitary) he's getting up and ready for the day. He begins by taking a piss, just when we expect to hear the sound, the scene cuts seconds later to Cobb washing his face with the running water from the faucet replacing the expected sound. This here is genius. The editing is absolutely perfect, selling without further delivery a routine morning check-up.
- As for the comments on why Rebecca doesn't stop Cobb on the roof while she has the chance, instead of announcing herself. I thought it was obvious that she saw him aiming the gun earlier, and was scared he was ready to shoot. So she announced herself to distract him; to break his focus in order to prevent him from shooting, which worked.
- Hauser's a boss. "Right handed?" "Yep." *shoots his right hand, Cobb screams* "No more shooting." lol
You know, this being my third time rewatching this episode. I'm amazed how much more there is to learn on repeat viewings, especially with shows like this that make it worth digging up the extra details. The pilot is easily one of my favorite episodes of the year, and which I feel is highly underrated... but that coupled with these latest episodes have been a joy to watch. The writing is extremely tight, and the mythology just continues to build, upping the ante with each succeeding episode. This seems like a nice companion piece to LOST and Fringe.
Big Papa Husker
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OHH SHIT!
Mushroom021
Member
Same here, I only watched the first episode/2hr premiere, its not doing it for me. I think its going to be the same thing every episode, catching an inmate and putting them in jail, kind of like CSI, NCIS, Law and Order.
I'm watching last week's... I feel like I'm not paying attention nearly enough to understand what's going on. Is there anything particularly interesting or seemingly importnat that's happened in the Flash-Alcatraz, besides the fact that they're collecting blood and Indian Doctor wants to "remove their memories"?
AngmarsKing701
Member
I think they did a little better job of revealing some of the over-arching mystery this week. It wasn't just a MotW episode. I hope they keep this type of balance, with every once in a while having an ep that really focuses on the bigger picture.
Edit: "Focuses" is probably too strong a word. But at least they shed some light on things this week, as opposed to mentioning this odd shadow entity in the 1st episode and then completely dropping it.
Edit: "Focuses" is probably too strong a word. But at least they shed some light on things this week, as opposed to mentioning this odd shadow entity in the 1st episode and then completely dropping it.
a secret-boss
Banned
I need to rewatch this. I was playing Spice Invaders while this was airing
BoboBrazil
Member
Great episode. Finally we are getting a little more about the back story. So they told the guard's families that there was a chemical spill, they were hospitalized, and then died later, but they told the guards that their was an accident and their families died. He also made reference that the stars disappeared behind the "fog". Another smoke monster? At the end of every episode it showed them putting the prisoner inside a cell at the new Alcatraz. What happens to the guards?
Big Papa Husker
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Best episode yet, but it's only doing just enough to keep me interested. I thought it was interesting that Guy Hastings was not allowed to see his daughter and Ray telling Tommy Madsen something about how he cannot see Rebecca - maybe some indication that something happens if the 63 reconnect with others from their past in the present.
MMaRsu
Banned
Why?
I think it's alright, certainly no Lost in any way but its got some good mystery to it. And more backstory is needed yes indeedy.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Decided this show might be interesting, so I just finished watching the Pilot/Cobb episodes. Not bad. I'll catch up with the rest, but does this show pick up? First two episodes were sorta 'eh'.
Surprising amount of blood when people get shot though. And Sam Neill is still awesome.
Surprising amount of blood when people get shot though. And Sam Neill is still awesome.
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