I think if it were a "fanservice heavy" show, then every episode would be more like the ones I mentioned. I didn't say it doesn't have fanservice, I just don't consider it particularly heavy by comparison to other shows where it is far more constant and blatant. If there are more episodes like the 1st and 7th then my opinion will obviously change.
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Lagrange, Anime With Echoes of Evangelion
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I think if it were a "fanservice heavy" show, then every episode would be more like the ones I mentioned. I didn't say it doesn't have fanservice, I just don't consider it particularly heavy by comparison to other shows where it is far more constant and blatant. If there are more episodes like the 1st and 7th then my opinion will obviously change.
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Only Guilty Crown can save anime.
hosannainexcelsis
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cosmicblizzard
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If you're looking for something like Eva, you should be watching Puella Magi Madoka Magica.
is not really that bad
Regulus Tera
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Please tell me you are not serious.
I already made that joke in page one, cosmic.
Their bad taste usually trends the other way though. They'll take some POS moe blob show-of-the-season and turn it into the highest rated thing on these rating sites.
4.85 is bad hentai territory. Stuff so poorly animated and scripted that no one could possibly jerk off to it.
Lagrange is the opposite of that. Ratings are garbage. Ratings by fans are garbage.
Regulus Tera
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So why are Bakemonogatari and Nisemonogatari so popular?
The site in question just doesn't like moe shows when they are actually high-quality!
I have no idea. People like rapidly flashing Japanese text that they can't actually read?
Edit: Apparently there is a Michael Hale that has voiced a couple anime characters. The plot thickens.
Anidb is the one I'm checking, but there are many out there.
What site is this?
Jex
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You're clearly not up to date on the current show!
Regulus Tera
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I didn't know dental hygiene was such a hot topic among Japanese cartoon fans.
Nisemono? Nope, haven't gotten around to watching it yet. Do they ditch that aspect of Bakemonogatari?
Thank God. I had to pause Bakemono every two seconds because my quasi-OCD wouldn't allow me to not read whatever flashing text was appearing.
hosannainexcelsis
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They did actually; there are still occasional flashes of text and "black scene", but it's vastly reduced from Bake.
I believe he is talking about the anidb "weighted" average, which I' don't really understand since it just seems to vary wildly from show to show. The actual rating is a 7. Is this something new?
Instead of words now you get to look at even more explicit fanservice scenes. Portions of the show are like 1 step away from hentai.
A 7 seems just about right, actually.
My understanding is that the "weighted" averages are averages taken over time. Basically it weeds out the people that watch one episode of a show, declare it their favorite show ever, and then give the show a 10 rating. I could be wrong, because I have no affiliation with the site.
Looking at a couple of other current season reviews, it may be a bit borked. Some of them seem a bit low. I don't know how they are coming up with those numbers (maybe taking away new account reviews?). They may have changed their algorithm since I last visited (I've been visiting the site for many years at this point).
Onto the "must watch" pile it goes.
kiunchbb
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Make no difference, since we will pause at that too!
hosannainexcelsis
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They specifically say that the heuristic used to weight the ratings is a secret. To me it looks like the AniDB ratings should be trusted even less than your average user rankings.
Without knowing what method they're using, it's hard to say. I can understand them wanting to keep ballot stuffers out though, because it always used to be a problem. If that's all they are doing (getting rid of 10's from someone that always vote's a 10, getting rid of 10's cast by brand new accounts, etc) then I think it's the right thing to do.
Leave it up to a straight average and all the fans vote 10, the show goes to #1 all time (over Miyazaki, Kon, Matsumoto, etc) and their rankings become somewhat of a joke.
Typical Nisemonogatari fanservice:
Filthy garbage.
Wow... she's really working that pole.
I find things to watch by process of elimination. If I haven't seen it, I'll probably watch it at this point. I understand the sentiment though. I was lucky; I had an IRC chatroom with hundreds of people to tell me what I should be watching (when I was much younger). I didn't have to go at it blind, or based on ratings.
hosannainexcelsis
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Ballot stuffing shouldn't even be an issue with a proper voting system.
Really, instead of getting recommendations from a random number on some fan website, you should find individual people whose tastes you can trust.
Service fans.
Honestly, I would be so happy if there were a movie-lengthed abridged version, with 95% less text, of Bakemonogatari.
I haven't seen Nisemonogatari or is that just a manga?
In any case, while the plot or characters are nothing to write home about at the moment it is the most visually pleasing and probably the most well directed show of this season. It also has a quality soundtrack. Its basically an average mecha show that happens to have a good sized budget behind it.
Well, there being a weighted score doesn't seem to have fixed that problem at all considering what the top anime on anidb are.
Nah, it's airing this season, up to episode eight now.
They've definitely changed it. This must be really recent because I don't remember such scores being so low before on average even for the worse shows of the season.
That's what I was talking about. Usually, all the new shows from a season would gather a hardcore following, and go right to the top of the rankings. I think it was that way last season, but it's hard to put a timeline on it.
If you sort by rating, and get rid of synonyms, there are very few 2012 shows in the top 20. In previous years, all the new shows would be up near the top. It seems to be working (for keeping new shows out of the top specifically) but I'm sure it could use some tweaking.
I was judging the show based on the old scale. A 4 really would have been dire on it, but on the new scale, I have no idea. My criticism of the show based on it's score is rescinded.
TheVampire
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Imagine if this upbeat girl replaced shinji in Evangelion.
Shes so positive and outgoing.
Shes so positive and outgoing.
Trent Strong
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They seem totally different to me. Maybe they both subvert a genre or something, I don't know enough about anime to know, but other than that, I can't see any similarities.
They really aren't similar beyond subversion. Eva is actually good.
Shed be crushed by the crippling depression from the other characters. But it will probably have a better ending.
Phantast2k
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Clicking the thread I thought it would be a math themed anime about Joseph Louis Lagrange or the Lagrangian.
I leave disappointed, lol
I leave disappointed, lol
TheContact
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Wasn't La Grange Point some important place in Gundam or something?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagrangian_point Colonies were usually placed there in some of the timelines.
Back to your thread, heathens. No one else is here now...
Please, don't let Mr. Anno see something like that... he is a married man now, you know.
Lol, no... just no.
The plot, that ended up faliing to shit anyway, wasn't the only draw of evangelion. Its astounding production values are a huge reasn it enjoys its popularity to this day. Also the uninspired robot and enemy robot designs can't hold a candle to the eva and angels. The ways in which they had to dispose of each angel is also a far cry from the crappy, brainless, fight scenes la grange has thrown at us so far. La grange is just another take on the kid with robot anime cliche with crap loads of fanservice. There's nothing notewrothy about it... thus far.
The plot, that ended up faliing to shit anyway, wasn't the only draw of evangelion. Its astounding production values are a huge reasn it enjoys its popularity to this day. Also the uninspired robot and enemy robot designs can't hold a candle to the eva and angels. The ways in which they had to dispose of each angel is also a far cry from the crappy, brainless, fight scenes la grange has thrown at us so far. La grange is just another take on the kid with robot anime cliche with crap loads of fanservice. There's nothing notewrothy about it... thus far.
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