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Media Create Sales: Week 9, 2012 (Feb 27 - Mar 04)

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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
New releases

{2012.03.15}

[3DS] If I Were in a Sealed Room With a Girl, I'd Probably XXX <ADV> (D3 Publisher) (¥6.090)

[PSV] FIFA Football <SPT> (Electronic Arts) (¥5.980)
[PSV] Slotter Mania V: Black Lagoon <TBL> (Dorart) (¥5.250)

[PSP] Shining Blade <RPG> (Sega) (¥6.279)
[PSP] Winning Post 7 2012 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥5.040)
[PSP] Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥6.480)
[PSP] Puella Magi Madoka Magica Portable [Limited Box] <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥11.990)
[PSP] Tokimeki Memorial: Girl's Side Premium - 3rd Story # <SLG> (Konami) (¥6.090)
[PSP] Tokimeki Memorial: Girl's Side Premium - 3rd Story [Limited Edition] <SLG> (Konami) (¥6.090)
[PSP] Amnesia Later # <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥6.090)
[PSP] Amnesia Later [Limited Edition] <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥8.190)
[PSP] Amnesia: Twin Pack <ADV> (Idea Factory) (¥9.240)

[PS3] Mass Effect 3 <RPG> (Electronic Arts) (¥7.665)
[PS3] SSX <SPT> (Electronic Arts) (¥7.665)
[PS3] Winning Post 7 2012 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥7.560)
[PS3] Meikyuu Touro Legasista <RPG> (Nippon Ichi Software) (¥7.140)
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors Online: Ryuujin Ranbu # <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥7.140)
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors Online: Ryuujin Ranbu [Treasure Box] <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) (¥14.800)
[PS3] Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition - Twin Pack <ADV> (Capcom) (¥5.490)
[PS3] Sengoku Basara 3: Utage - Double Pack <ACT> (Capcom) (¥6.990)

[360] Mass Effect 3 <RPG> (Electronic Arts) (¥7.665)
[360] SSX <SPT> (Electronic Arts) (¥7.665)


{2012.03.17}

[3DS] Monster Hunter 3G [Beginner's Hunter Pack Flare Red] <ACT> (Capcom) (¥19.800)
[3DS] Monster Hunter 3G [Beginner's Hunter Pack Cosmo Black] <ACT> (Capcom) (¥19.800)

[NDS] Pokemon + Nobunaga's Ambition <SLG> (Pokemon Co.) (¥5.800)
 
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Instro

Member
Wow, One Piece with the big money. Looks like the restock for Theatrythm was a success as well.

06./08. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 18.945 / 1.546.212 (-9%)
07./03. [PS3] Naruto Shippuden: Narutimate Storm Generation <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.02.23} (¥7.330) - 17.917 / 83.675 (-73%)
08./07. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800) - 16.142 / 1.386.318 (-25%)
09./09. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800) - 15.836 / 1.283.511 (-11%)
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Naruto broke up the trinity.
 
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donny2112

Member
djplaeskool said:
Oh wow. They really weren't bluffing about that Black Lagoon Pachislot Vita game...
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Pachislot was a pretty big PS2 genre. Any word on 3DS games in that vein?

OrangeGrayBlue said:
my guess is about 9,200 next week for Vita, and then it will hover around 8k until June 14 when Persona 4 is released.
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Well, the Vita Masters did their job this week selling at least 24 systems. We'll see how the March 9 presentation does to keep it above 10K next week.
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
donny2112 said:
Pachislot was a pretty big PS2 genre. Any word on 3DS games in that vein?
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Pachislot was a big genre at home consoles from NES to PS2.

Edit: Previous Hunter Packs

[PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 2 [Summer Bonus Pack Champagne Gold] <ACT> (Capcom) {2007.07.26} (¥22.000)
[PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 2 [Summer Bonus Pack Metallic Blue] <ACT> (Capcom) {2007.07.26} (¥22.000)

37./00. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 2 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2007.02.22} (¥5.229)

| PSP # | 35.068 | 32.894 | 42.604 | 1.221.633 | 1.066.723 | 5.753.764 |


[PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom Unite (PSP the Best) [PSP Rookie Hunter Pack Radiant Red] <ACT> (Capcom) {2009.07.23} (¥21.000)
[PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom Unite (PSP the Best) [PSP Rookie Hunter Pack Vibrant Blue] <ACT> (Capcom) {2009.07.23} (¥21.000)

10./09. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom Unite (PSP the Best) # <ACT> (Capcom) {2008.10.30} (¥3.140) - 18.008 / 818.000 (+61%)

| PSP # | 30.523 | 24.053 | 67.452 | 1.275.757 | 2.390.874 | 12.633.860 |


[PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom Unite (PSP the Best Reprint) [PSP Rookie Hunter Pack Vibrant Blue] <ACT> (Capcom) {2009.12.10} (¥18.500)

| PSP # | 74.962 | 71.292 | 71.540 | 2.055.724 | 3.428.304 | 13.413.827 |


[PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 [PSP Rookie Hunter Pack Black/Red] <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.02.10} (¥19.800)
[PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 [PSP Rookie Hunter Pack Blue/White] <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.02.10} (¥19.800)

03./06. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 # <ACT> (Capcom) {2010.12.01} (¥5.800) - 93.483 / 4.249.622 (+236%)

| PSP # | 107.000 | 30.611 | 40.687 | 272.228 | 411.526 | 16.922.440 |
 
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snowdog1971

Banned
Bloody hell, third parties are doing really well on the 3DS in Japan, particularly Capcom. Looks like Nintendo's decision to finally offer a helping hand to third parties is paying off. Bodes well for the U in the not-too-distant future.
 
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JoshuaJSlone

Member
Wazzim said:
PS2 ones did medicore at best.
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They seem that way compared to the PSP games, but it was one of the bigger new franchises on PS2. Not up there with the likes of Onimusha or Kingdom Hearts or Warriors/Musou*, though. *Yeah, not counting the related PS1 game.

Famitsu
Monster Hunter - 288,559
Monster Hunter G - 232,239
Monster Hunter 2 - 570,651
Monster Hunter 2 (Best) - 121,354
 
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kiri

Member
grimshawish said:
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God, I love Molly.

Some great figures for One Piece and I'm not shocked to see New Love Plus drop out of the charts either. I wonder if any of the announcements on the 9th will move Vita sales at all.
 
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BassForever

Member
kiri said:
God, I love Molly.

Some great figures for One Piece and I'm not shocked to see New Love Plus drop out of the charts either. I wonder if any of the announcements on the 9th will move Vita sales at all.
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At best they might put off <10k for a week or two, I can't imagine them announcing games that are coming out in the next few weeks when we've heard nothing about anything that's almost complete.
 
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TreasureHunterG

Banned
One of the reasons why PSV is getting mediocre sales is because PSP is still alive, strong and with way better 3rd party support. PSP was able to directly compete with 3DS till last year until the big 3 came. I think Sony will have a HARD time now to make PSV a worthy competitor against 3DS. After all, it's close to a 5M user base gap (and increasing) after all.
 
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Man God

Non-Canon Member
I guess the only thing you could probably compare Pokémon + Nobunaga's is the last GBA Mystery Dungeon for a late cycle spinoff game on a system that has already been replaced.
 
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Erethian

Member
TreasureHunterG said:
One of the reasons why PSV is getting mediocre sales is because PSP is still alive, strong and with way better 3rd party support. PSP was able to directly compete with 3DS till last year until the big 3 came. I think Sony will have a HARD time now to make PSV a worthy competitor against 3DS. After all, it's close to a 5M user base gap (and increasing) after all.
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This might be true if PSP's hardware sales weren't terrible. Or it had a ton of software coming out for it.

Even if you took every single person buying a PSP in 2012 and turned them into a Vita buyer, Vita's hardware sales would just be really bad instead of incredibly bad.

Edit: Putting aside the fact that there are also millions of existing PSP owners that aren't buying a Vita.
 
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Brazil

Living in the shadow of Amaz
Bebpo said:
You are the first person to note this in the history of the forum. I hadn't thought about that. Good point!
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People say times like these are the golden age of Sales-Age, but, honestly, that's bullshit.

MC threads are basically litter boxes filled with "Vita needs Monster Hunter" and "Sony should moneyhat Dragon Quest/Monster Hunter/One Piece/Pokémon/anything that sells more than like 30k" posts and talk about games that don't exist nowadays. It's freaking annoying.
 
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BishopLamont

Banned
Looks like One Piece will go platinum. Really wondering what franchise will be next.

charlequin said:
I don't know why people think moneyhats are even significant in a case like this. Monster Hunter is much too huge a franchise for Sony to significantly sway Capcom on the matter. If they do or don't release it for a given platform, it's because they saw some advantage to doing so independent of direct platform-holder payments.

Like, take this:



The idea that this is a straightforwardly achievable goal for Sony just by spending money is ridiculous. Third parties aren't franchise vending machines that spit out titles if you spend enough money; they're individual actors who have their own concerns to think about -- for example, the reputation and long-term health of each of their franchises.

Look at this list one at a time. Square-Enix is already having a great deal of trouble with their Final Fantasy franchise and they already ran into userbase issues selling FFXIII -- putting out a "real" FF on Vita would have the risk of underperforming everywhere and hurting the brand even further in the West. With Dragon Quest, they've already established a rock-solid relationship with Nintendo for this franchise -- they've gotten a ton of Western support that's helped make the series much bigger than it used to be there, and they're already actively working to keep that relationship going with their 3DS releases -- a switch to Vita goes against that relationship and the desire to always put DQ games on market-leading or high-selling systems.

MH has been talked about more but all of these things are akin to one another. For franchises this big, with such significant long-term strategic planning about how they should be deployed, the way to get releases on your system isn't to pay people to do it -- it's to design a system that will fit with those strategies so that it's the natural choice for those games. That is quite arguably what Sony has failed to do with Vita and why so many franchises have pledged support to the 3DS relatively early even despite its problems as a platform.
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Excellent post.
 
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donny2112

Member
Brazil said:
MC threads are basically litter boxes filled with "Vita needs Monster Hunter" and "Sony should moneyhat Dragon Quest/Monster Hunter/One Piece/Pokémon/anything that sells more than like 30k" posts and talk about games that don't exist nowadays. It's freaking annoying.
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For 2005/6/7, we were getting up-to-speed on historical sales, so as we found stuff in collating data, we discussed it a lot. Now, we have Chris1964's spreadsheet and Garaph.info to do all that for us, so there aren't as many people combing through old sales and finding interesting stuff to discuss. Current sales get old pretty quick, but finding connections to trends in previous sales to predict further in current sales seems to be pretty interesting. It's just not as many people looking at old sales to get new viewpoints on it.

That's probably part of it, at least.

Edit:
As for Vita, I think a big mistake was the jump they made to get the price down to $250 at launch to match 3DS, instead of going for a higher initial price. That initial $250 announcement made a lot of people hyped up on the Vita prospects, but if left no wiggle room if sales started off poorly, and early adopters are the least price conscious. Compare a $250 announced Vita, followed by a price dropped 3DS making Vita seem more overpriced to a $350 Vita with room to drop the price a few months in to help spark. It'd be hard to imagine a $350 Vita doing significantly worse than the current system.

Just a thought.
 
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Endo Punk

Member
Level 5 needs to come to the rescue for the PSV. I recall when Monster Hunter was first made for the PS2 it didn't do well including Japan but once it switched to handheld it became a mega franchise, something tells me if done right White Knight games could be big on the PSV.
 
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Goli

Member
CepPyBoy said:
Level 5 needs to come to the rescue for the PSV. I recall when Monster Hunter was first made for the PS2 it didn't do well including Japan but once it switched to handheld it became a mega franchise, something tells me if done right White Knight games could be big on the PSV.
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I don't know, they already tried on PSP and it didn't work out too well. Granted, Level 5 didn't develop the game, but it plays more or less the same as the other WKC games.
 
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Erethian

Member
CepPyBoy said:
Level 5 needs to come to the rescue for the PSV. I recall when Monster Hunter was first made for the PS2 it didn't do well including Japan but once it switched to handheld it became a mega franchise, something tells me if done right White Knight games could be big on the PSV.
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There was a White Knight Chronicles game for PSP. That you probably haven't heard of it should tell you everything about how well it sold.
 
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frankie_baby

Member
donny2112 said:
For 2005/6/7, we were getting up-to-speed on historical sales, so as we found stuff in collating data, we discussed it a lot. Now, we have Chris1964's spreadsheet and Garaph.info to do all that for us, so there aren't as many people combing through old sales and finding interesting stuff to discuss. Current sales get old pretty quick, but finding connections to trends in previous sales to predict further in current sales seems to be pretty interesting. It's just not as many people looking at old sales to get new viewpoints on it.

That's probably part of it, at least.

Edit:
As for Vita, I think a big mistake was the jump they made to get the price down to $250 at launch to match 3DS, instead of going for a higher initial price. That initial $250 announcement made a lot of people hyped up on the Vita prospects, but if left no wiggle room if sales started off poorly, and early adopters are the least price conscious. Compare a $250 announced Vita, followed by a price dropped 3DS making Vita seem more overpriced to a $350 Vita with room to drop the price a few months in to help spark. It'd be hard to imagine a $350 Vita doing significantly worse than the current system.

Just a thought.
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I'm sorry but there is no way a $350 vita would've sold even half of what vita has sold so far
 
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BassForever

Member
It's going to take more then just 1 game to save Vita, it's going to take several games and probably a lower price point. Too many people think Monster Hunter is just a first aid spray for Vita's sales.
 
Metallix87

Metallix87

Member
BassForever said:
It's going to take more then just 1 game to save Vita, it's going to take several games and probably a lower price point. Too many people think Monster Hunter is just a first aid spray for Vita's sales.
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I don't think anyone believes this, but that everyone agrees it would at least be a bandage to help stop or at least slow down the bleeding.

Monster Hunter will never be a "savior" for the Vita given that it's appearing on the 3DS.
 
DCharlie

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
Too many people think Monster Hunter is just a first aid spray for Vita's sales.
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The sad truth is that if Monster Hunter 4th were to be announced and if it was due to hit before MH4 then it would be absolutely off the scale massive and it would, without a doubt, "save" the Vita.

Monster Hunter will never be a "savior" for the Vita given that it's appearing on the 3DS.
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that depends completely what it is - Monster Hunter != Monster Hunter ;)

If it -did- we'd have seen MH3G hit 4-5million , it didn't. But make no mistake that 3DS MH4 -will- hit that. BUT if Vita gets MH4th before that then it's going to be interesting. The MH fanbase has NOT shifted yet, despite the 1.x million sales. There's a lot of people not moved - they make actually not move, they may still choose MH4 and 3DS, but make no mistake that MH is a HUGE factor right now.
 
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Principate

Saint Titanfall
DCharlie said:
The sad truth is that if Monster Hunter 4th were to be announced and if it was due to hit before MH4 then it would be absolutely off the scale massive and it would, without a doubt, "save" the Vita.
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From it's current throes sure will it allow it do PSP numbers at it's height is another question entirely.
 
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matmanx1

Member
I think it's a mistake to think that developers weren't targeting the 3DS 2+ years ago for this flood of software that's now hitting. Some of the posters act like the big names now appearing on the 3DS from 3rd parties were recent decisions based on the 3DS's recent resurgence which is simply not true. It takes a significant amount of time and money to develop a Kingdom Hearts, Monster Hunter, etc and those projects likely started in 2010 and well before the PSV was much more than a rumor.

The danger Iwata spoke of last year in developers abandoning the 3DS platform due to sales was likely not directed at any of the significant 2012 releases but rather new projects just under way or even still in the planning stages. Similarly the PSV's 2012 is probably fairly set in stone at this point even though we don't know much beyond this summer and are not going to be affected by the slow Japanese start. In other words, anything that's fairly far along as a PSV (or 3DS) project isn't likely to be in any danger from this year's sales.

What Sony needs right now is the same thing Nintendo needed last year. Sony needs to assure any developers who are unsure about developing for the PSV that they can make money on the platform and that there will be an audience to buy their games. If they can't do this then we might actually see a real software drought starting sometime next year.
 
DCharlie

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
How would that even work?
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MH4 is due 2013 - *IF* after Capcom went to Nintendo after MH3rdP launch they then went to Sony and agreed to make a new MH for Sony then they could well dove tail the two games and get exclusive deals on both.

MH3G and MH4 remain the "Nintendo Monster Hunter" with possible Wii U HD versions/Full Console versions

MH Vital or some other moniker marks a new entry on the Vita.

Capcom make the games as significantly different as they can in terms of content. Nintendo fans get Monster Hunter, Sony fans get monster hunter, Monster Hunter fans get to double buy TWO monster hunters! Iwata laughs, Kaz laughs, Capcom laugh.

reality: MH3rdG for PSP , no Vita version - lots of shocked faces and MH4th becomes this gens "MGS4 X360!" - just highlighting with the above that it is completely possible for a Vita version to exist and come out, it just not very likely ATM/IMO
 
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