BishopLamont
Banned
I meant for the 3DS, just based on the games charting. Especially Hatsune.
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Media Create Sales: Week 9, 2012 (Feb 27 - Mar 04)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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To be fair, it doesn't particularly scream 'front-loaded title' to me. If it's a success, it would always be so as a sleeper hit.
grimshawish
Banned
Its all psychology. 10k means nothing in literal terms, its just a number we use, and our entire counting system is based on '10' because we have 10 fingers.
But its slowed down considerably so it could increase, but not to 11k I think. Only a few hundred. But really it depends on if the Vita is being perceived generally as a bad buy (think after 3DS price cut announced how the sales died, but instead theres no announcement, customers just think its a bad time to buy Vita)
The real think to watch out for is if the decrease is stabilising, turning around, or getting faster.
I just think stabilising should be the norm, and nothing unexpected will happen. Could be wrong ofc.
Long-term, maybe, but in the last few weeks it's *consistently* dropped about 1.1k per week. Since the spikes left the system, there's been no sign of any stabilisation. It'll have to happen sometime, but there's no evidence of it yet.
Of course, there won't *be* any evidence until it, well, starts to stabilise.
frankie_baby
Member
Prior to the webcast thing i thought that could be a possibility but if anything that could've done more harm than good
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Gundam bomba?
Also, wouldn't this be the week that reflects the Vita Heaven announcements?
Also, wouldn't this be the week that reflects the Vita Heaven announcements?
Wouldn't any effect *that* had not actually show up until *next* week's sales figures?
Edit: On which note, would that actually be a reasonable sort of thing to add into the predictions game? Predicting the size of a post-news hardware bump (or indeed trough, as happened with the 3DS price cut), whenever any significant news comes about?
BassForever
Member
If sales continue to drop it'll be hard to tell what impact it had if any, unless sales drop to something insanely low like <5000
Gianni Merryman
Member
Maybe he was referring to Vita possibly dropping below 10k and subsequent meltdown
not that 11k and 9k make a lot of difference IMO
The game seems to be solid for all we know, but I'm not sure it may appeal Japanese market, whereas I reckon Nintendo is expecting it to sell better in the Western countries.
frankie_baby
Member
It was on friday and most sales i would assume be at the weekend so yeah its effects will be felt in todays figures
grimshawish
Banned
Its gonna be really fucking boring if the results are Vita = 10,000
I don't think we'll get past 1 page of replies
I don't think we'll get past 1 page of replies
Sammy Samusu
Member
Yes, and we are dealing with low lumbers already, Vita selling more than last week is not impossible.
I SAY FIVE DIGITS AND FIGHTING!
Do we actually have any figures suggesting how Japan feels about the Kid Icarus franchise in general? I mean, it's been dormant so long...
We know Japan loves Mario and MonHun; we know they're not terribly excited about Zelda and Wipeout. Do we have anything to really isolate if this is "the return of a long-lost classic" or just another 3DS game in the general Japanese audience's psyche?
Vita <10k: GAF goes wild
Vita >10k: GAF goes wild
well, honestly i don't GAF will go wild for >10k if that's around the same numbers we got last week
sure, we could know that vita finally stopped it's downward spiral, but still not amazing
Vita>20k = GAF goes wild
anyhow amazing top 10 for the 3DS... how the heck did MGS managed to get number 5?
/bows to nintendo 3DS domination
Dat Holy Trinity! :lol
I still don't think the PSVita will go below 10,000 this week.
My gut's saying no discernible effect from the presentation, just over 9k (starting to show some signs of stabilisation)
iceatcs
Junior Member
Vita <10k: GAF goes wild
Vita >10k: GAF goes wild
More likely Vita > 20K GAF goes wild angry and upset.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Yep, I think I was right to think Miku 3DS would debut sub-100K.
Yeah, no. Don't go there.
Smiles and Cries
Member
Million sellers with long legs are scary
Vita >20k: Guru meditation
You have to put Zelda on the same level as Wipeout?
Even if Zelda is losing its appeal in Japan, it's still a lot more popular than Wipeout. Wipeout was never anything in Japan.
Smiles and Cries
Member
iceatcs
Junior Member
Aye, let we drop the hope for meltdown then. There are some people here wishing Vita below 10K for meltdown.
I would guess that GAF has disproportionate affection for the Vita relative to the general consumer base, or even the general gaming consumer base.
I wouldn't continue down this path of victimhood lest you planned to martyr yourself in the process.
frankie_baby
Member
well, honestly i don't GAF will go wild for >10k if that's around the same numbers we got last week
sure, we could know that vita finally stopped it's downward spiral, but still not amazing
Vita>20k = GAF goes wild
anyhow amazing top 10 for the 3DS... how the heck did MGS managed to get number 5?
/bows to nintendo 3DS domination
I've been thinking since sunday night when i saw the comgnet numbers mgs might not do as terrbile as previously thought (yeah lowered expectations)
frankie_baby
Member
Persona release week maybe but even that'll be pushing it
Gianni Merryman
Member
I don't think that may give us any indications; Kid Icarus was a 2D platform that now has been turned into a Sin and punishment style third-person-action-shooter, so it's like a new game altogether.
It's not just all about a franchise's popularity, just look at how differently 2D Mario and 3DMario games perform in Japan.
For all we know Metroid prime trilogy have had a lukewarm reception in Japan, so I'm not expecting Kid Icarus to sell insanely better, although I would be glad if it sold beyond my provisions.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
How well did Sin and Punishment do, because that's the type of game Icarus seems similar to. If Japan normally doesn't go for that style of game, I don't think a character from Nintendo's past is suddenly going to change anything.
BassForever
Member
The difference is that Kid Icarus has Smash Bros Brawl for attention/appeal and will probably actually be marketed and advertised.
electroplankton
Banned
banned.
I personally don't imagine its going to help it that much. But we will see I guess. Its certainly not going to do gangbusters by any metric.
[N64] Sin and Punishment: Successor of the Earth (Nintendo) - 22.536 / 37.918 / 59,43% 21/11/00
[WII] Sin and Punishment: Star Successor (Nintendo) - 10.476 / 19.951 / 52,51% 29/10/09
However, Kid Icarus will do MUCH better than the two S&P
...The nightmares O_O
Oh wow...just wow. I think I have to end my life, before this *thing* become real!
Gianni Merryman
Member
That's quite a given, but it's not a good deal.
Maybe it may help somehow this is been developed by Sakurai, and that it's on a handheld that's having a good momentum going.
electroplankton
Banned
It will help by the HUGE marketing effort Nintendo is putting on this game.
Gianni Merryman
Member
Yes, I think it will, especially in NA and EU where they're pushing it with a strong marketing campaign for what I can gather.
Meccanical
Member
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
How have Sakurai's other non-SSB games sold (KAR, Meteos, etc)?
Gianni Merryman
Member
Well, recent Kirby game on Wii has performed quite decently IIRC.
slaughterking
Member
http://garaph.info/softwareindividual.php//gid/1209
http://garaph.info/softwareindividual.php//gid/223
Kirby did incredibly well. Didn't know that. lol