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Rumor: Prey 2 cancelled, official statement due next week [Up: ZeniMax: No comment.]

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MaverickHunterX

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While it breaks my heart to hear that the sequel to one of my all time 360 games may have been canned, a part of me is ok with it, for after all, it seemed to becoming more and more of "dudebro goes to space, with Tommy cameo" than an actual sequel to prey...

Maybe zenimax realized this too...
 
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jrDev

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subversus said:
I just watched the demo again and yeah, no way they could pull it off with OPEN WORLD this generation. Even as a corridor game like Mirror's Edge it would be hard. But with open world it's just impossible.

if they actually delivered the game it would sell a lot or at least it would have healthy sales.
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Link to the demo video?
 
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Eusis

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ddp72984 said:
While it breaks my heart to hear that the sequel to one of my all time 360 games may have been canned, a part of me is ok with it, for after all, it seemed to becoming more and more of "dudebro goes to space, with Tommy cameo" than an actual sequel to prey...
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Sounds like it was going in the opposite direction actually, while it abandoned the gimmick the original was based around (Portal used it better anyway) the idea of an open world alien cyberpunk-type of game actually sounded pretty interesting. If it's really just a proof of concept that they failed to actually make into a real game... well, then it's probably for the best if it were scrapped, unfortunately.
 
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WorstUsernameEver

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It's true that it looked promising but I always thought the demo was so highly scripted that it was difficult to tell how the demo would have turned out? Maybe it's just me being distrustful..

And what's with Bethesda's publisher side? Looking at their track records they seem to have some problems, to use an euphemism.
 
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mik83kuu

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I would like to take this time and remind everyone that none of us have ever seen even a seconds worth of actual gameplay. Just because the cinematic trailer looked awesome as hell, there is no guarantee that the game lived up to it.
 
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subversus

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whatevermort said:
It's not gameplay. It's a matinee. It's basically an in-engine cut-scene that replicates proof-of-concept gameplay, only they sold it as a demo.
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still it was very attractive proof-of-concept and 99% of people who watched this video thought it was actual gameplay. And why wouldn't they?
 
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KorrZ

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whatevermort said:
It's not gameplay. It's a matinee. It's basically an in-engine cut-scene that replicates proof-of-concept gameplay, only they sold it as a demo.
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If so it's very shady..and probably explains why it was cancelled. They went through a lot of effort to make that demo seem like gameplay.
 
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Symphonic

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whatevermort said:
It's not gameplay. It's a matinee. It's basically an in-engine cut-scene that replicates proof-of-concept gameplay, only they sold it as a demo.
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Er, not sure if this is true. There were hands on impressions I thought and I believe I watched several different versions of that demo being played.
 
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subversus

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loblaw said:
Er, not sure if this is true. There were hands on impressions I thought and I believe I watched several different versions of that demo being played.
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these "hands-on" impressions were impressions of how the developer played the game.
 
GraveRobberX

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So the demo was fake, ala the infamous KillZone 2 target render, but with more fud?
 
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Symphonic

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subversus said:
these "hands-on" impressions were impressions of how the developer played the game.
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Were there multiple versions then? I could have sworn I saw at least 3 different videos showing different ways that scenario could be played out. Also could have sworn there was a demo showing the big thing from the CG video.
 
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subversus

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loblaw said:
Were there multiple versions then? I could have sworn I saw at least 3 different videos showing different ways that scenario could be played out. Also could have sworn there was a demo showing the big thing from the CG video.
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but there is a demo with the big thing from the CG video. It's not exactly machinima, it's just a very scripted sequence of gameplay. Like very scripted.
 
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CartridgeBlower

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Damn, so all that E3 coverage of a fake demo, and no website or critic pointed that out at the time? Because I remember everyone treating it like it was a real demo...I feel swindled by the publisher and the press.
 
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Eusis

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By the way, I really doubt anyone can save Prey 2 as easily as True Crime Hong Kong. If real development's been made that can be salvaged, it'd need to change the engine (probably) because Bethesda's now the only company that can use id Tech. Then again maybe that's just id Tech 5 and id Tech 4 is still clear, but I'm thinking it's probably ALL id Tech given Prey wasn't a Bethesda game.
 
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Nirolak

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CartridgeBlower said:
Damn, so all that E3 coverage of a fake demo, and no website or critic pointed that out at the time? Because I remember everyone treating it like it was a real demo...I feel swindled by the publisher and the press.
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Well, the BioShock Infinite demo was also treated as real, and won a ton of Game of E3 awards, so this isn't unheard of.

Publications often treat developer run demos as real, though a lot of the time when only a developer can touch a game, it's because it will break if you don't play it in an extremely specific way.

If you take enough advantage of this, you can essentially pass off a barely existent/doesn't actually work like this game as real.
 
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Kinyou

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The demo is heavily scripted but nowhere near Killzone 2 or the first Bioshock Infinite Demo. There is an actual game there.
 
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Vinterbird

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CartridgeBlower said:
Damn, so all that E3 coverage of a fake demo, and no website or critic pointed that out at the time? Because I remember everyone treating it like it was a real demo...I feel swindled by the publisher and the press.
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I would have sworn it was a real demo when I got it back in August. A guy was playing it, the player character fell through the level and they had to enable debug mode and reset player positions, it was played in front of my eyes, controller in hand and they made a point showing that "yes, I am playing it right now".

Of course it was scripted, that's how games work. But it wasn't a video, it wasn't fake. It was a real playable piece of game, that it perhaps was all there ever was if Prey 2 is a entirely different discussion. But the demo I got, was the real thing.
 
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Krev

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Vinterbird said:
I would have sworn it was a real demo when I got it back in August. A guy was playing it, the player character fell through the level and they had to enable debug mode and reset player positions, it was played in front of my eyes, controller in hand and they made a point showing that "yes, I am playing it right now".

Of course it was scripted, that's how games work. But it wasn't a video, it wasn't fake. It was a real playable piece of game, that it perhaps was all there ever was if Prey 2 is a entirely different discussion. But the demo I got, was the real thing.
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I believe it's a real demo that you can play, but only in a very specific way. There was variation when the E3 demo was demonstrated for different sites, but they always went through the same few scenarios in very similar ways. All that changed was the order in which events were tackled.
I imagine you couldn't do anything other than what they showed. In essence, they took their vertical slice to E3 and gave a false impression of how far along the game was.
 
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megalowho

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Really sad news if true. Thought ZeniMax would be able to appreciate more than most the draw of ambitious single player experiences. Will wait for the full story, but no comment is hardly assuring.
 
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PjotrStroganov

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Didn't Human Head have great trouble getting the original Prey finished? Maybe it's something inherently wrong with their development process that caused this alleged cancellation.


If true, it's a real shame and a waste of potential. The 'gameplay' demo really got me exited.
 
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PnCIa

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I´m sorry, what is so impossible about the E3 demo? First time i heared about the "smoke and mirrors" talk, sure E3 demos are often faked, but i can´t see a thing in there that looks like it can´t be done in a game.
 
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Eusis said:
By the way, I really doubt anyone can save Prey 2 as easily as True Crime Hong Kong. If real development's been made that can be salvaged, it'd need to change the engine (probably) because Bethesda's now the only company that can use id Tech. Then again maybe that's just id Tech 5 and id Tech 4 is still clear, but I'm thinking it's probably ALL id Tech given Prey wasn't a Bethesda game.
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Wrong. Prey 2 is/was to be published by Bethesda. And the id Tech engines (4+) are only available for games that are to be published by Bethesda. Just like BRINK.



Anyway. I think the most realistic thing to expect from all this is nothing but a name change.
 
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B_Rik_Schitthaus

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PjotrStroganov said:
Didn't Human Head have great trouble getting the original Prey finished? Maybe it's something inherently wrong with their development process that caused this alleged cancellation.


If true, it's a real shame and a waste of potential. The 'gameplay' demo really got me exited.
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No. You have it 100 percent wrong.
 
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MightyHedgehog

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Would suck if true 'cause, if nothing else, it looked awesome. Hopefully, it's just being put on hold or being shifted over to next-gen platforms instead of being canceled outright.
 
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PrinceOfApathy

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Bullshit about the game couldn't be done.

They didn't have to go full open world GTA/Skyrim/Fallout/RDR.

They could have gone exactly like Dues EX Human revolution route. All this game needed was a City Hub. His personal home/office to see weapons and gadgets, A Seedy dirty bar full of Aliens ( not like the clean space bars in ME ), and a general Bounty Hunter/Jail. Interconnected by streets, alleys, and bridges. A space port.

Missions could take place inside of the semi-open world hubs, and you could be teleported to other parts of the city to another mini-explorable hub to do other main mission bounties or side quest bounties. This game was very doable. There was a game here.
 
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Veins

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Why would they cancel?
The interest in the game was massive after E3?!

Wait the E3 demo was fake?
 
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Seventy_X_Seven

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Veins said:
Why would they cancel?
The interest in the game was massive after E3?!

Wait the E3 demo was fake?
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Not fake, just played in such a way to hide all the issues the build had. Not sure why this is such a shock, its what everyone does when they don't let the media or fans go hands on themselves.
 
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Keyser Soze

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If the E3 demo was the only part of the game that existed, and they were unable to keep things at that level for a 6+ hour campaign, then I can see why it would be canned.

I honestly expect the same thing to happen to the new Tomb Raider - or at the very least it will look completely different when we see it again.
 
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