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Epic Mickey 2: Power of Illusion (3DS) first details
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ThatObviousUser
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You gotta call it in the OT OT.
OMG pizza!!
You think we can convince her to get some soda too? Would be the bomb.
I'm on the same boat, waiting for E3 to see if there'll be a redesign to buy or not. It's a given I'll get one this year, though.
SpacePirate Ridley
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Cow Mengde
Banned
Can we have 2 separate OT? I mean, there's no point in grouping this together with the crappy console version. It deserves its own OT.
Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Illusion |OT| The Real Deal
Epid Mickey 2: The Power of Two |OT| Great spin-off of the Real Deal
Better removed that before you get banned
Itchy//Tasty
Member
This should just be called Mickey Mouse and the Power of Illusion. Title gripe aside, this looks amazing.
This is probably the correct decision, even if it doesn't tie-in to the other Epic Mickeys (though it does retain the paint/thinner mechanics). Takes a piece of both old and new audiences.
Given that they're completely different games with different (if just barely) titles, two separate OTs would be perfectly inline with the status quo and I'm sure most gaffer's expect/demand it.
Just look at Ace Combat: Assault Horizon and Ace Combat: Assault Horizon Legacy for a recent example.
The Wheel of Fortune
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The NeoGAF rules state that you cannot post scans, man. You should delete the link as soon as you can if you don't want to get in troubles.
It would be cool if we got the Game Gear version of (in the VC) for free as a preorder bonus, and if they released the whole saga on the eShop, too...
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
I dont mind doing two OT, I though that seeing as they are going to be in gameplay and graphics radically diferent (but being from the same saga, having the same characters and possibly follow some type of timeline and having also the paint/thinner brush) it was the normal thing to do, as people will have different questions to ask and totally different discussions.
its been explained in this thread why having that title is the right thing to do as a marketing strategy. If you hated the first game and thats why you dont want that title, thats only your problem. The game even uses the same charcters, story and paint/thinner mechanics.
its been explained in this thread why having that title is the right thing to do as a marketing strategy. If you hated the first game and thats why you dont want that title, thats only your problem. The game even uses the same charcters, story and paint/thinner mechanics.
It also ties into the whole Epic Mickey mythos in a pretty cool way.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Fixed
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
I still see that both titles have the number 2 so thats not fixed lol
mmmm, have you worked in the game?
If so please tell me if the music are remixes from the music in the movies and if theres a Haunted Mansion, Pirates and song of the south/splash mountain stages in the portable game.
No, I wrote the NP cover story. Sorry, but I can't really answer any specific questions about the game.
iamaustrian
Member
damn, the other scans look even better.
I can't wait to see all those delicious parallax layers in 3D.
Yo Konami, gimme a 3DS Castlevania with that pixelart.
and do not forget to trash the shitty Metroidvania style. I want a direct successor to Super Castlevania IV.
I can't wait to see all those delicious parallax layers in 3D.
Yo Konami, gimme a 3DS Castlevania with that pixelart.
and do not forget to trash the shitty Metroidvania style. I want a direct successor to Super Castlevania IV.
mugurumakensei
Member
Can you answer if you've seen the game in motion? If so, how is the animation?
I got to play it, but I can't really comment on any specifics. You'll have to pick up the magazine for the full details.
That said, I'm very excited about the game.
That I can answer for you ... and the answer is Disney will ignore this movie as much as they can =P
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Not the music or the characters though. They censored the real action parts, but the animated parts and the songs are used by disney a LOT till this day. You can even find merchandising of Brer Rabbit, Fox and Bear still. And zip a dee doo dah is probably the most used disney song by the company (apart from when you wish upon a star)
Now, compare that to Hercules or the Black Cauldron, now those movies are the ones that Disney want to hide from the light, only becuase they did not well at box office. Black Cauldron is a given, but try to find things from Hercules in the parks (apart from the heavy use of Hades) or even merchandising. Is impossible. I tried hard when i was at Disneyland Resort California last June, and again in Disneyland resort Paris a week ago. Absolutely nothing, and what Cast Members told me "well, is a pretty old movie..." Yeah right, Aladdin, Little Mermaid, Lion King, etc... are older, but the parks have lots of things about them.
Now FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT STITCH, the parks are stuffed with that shit, even to the point of having no sense what so ever (Stitch as Tower of Terror Bellhop is one that comes to mind, fuck that noise). And the pink stitch for girls is vomit enducing. Really sad.
CamHostage
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Playable or not, I think the animation is still temped, in the NP issue half the screenshots have Mickey in the exact same animation pose frame in the middle of a jump.
JennyTablina
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Actually it's been a sliding scale of ignorance for years. Iger originally said at his first Shareholders meeting he was going release Song as a Disney Treasure, but whatever happened between then and his second year in charge, became an automatic no. Outside Splash Mountain you will NEVER see a reference to Song, as it continues to be an old shame, and they only acknowledge the characters and Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah for the sake of the ride (which they would much rather you would associate them with). The song survives because it's just SO iconic, it can exist without the film in Disney's world
Also it's not JUST the live action sections that are the problem in Song, the characters act a little bit stereotypical and theres the whole "Tar Baby" story that really sticks Brer Rabbit and co in the "ignore forever" department. Maybe once Iger steps down we'll see Song properly represented, but not in the next few decades that's for sure. I'll be very surprised if Disney clear anything from Song for Warren to actually use outside the famous song.
Lolwut - Hercules was never a failure, it did FANTASTIC at box office back in the day, but it's never been much of a merch spinner. Disney did try a Disney Heroes line to get more of the male market which included the likes of Herc, but it never took off like the Princess line did. The Cars line is the only male demographic line that's really worked out for Disney in the past decade, they make more money off stuff like the princess and faries line. It's only that Hercules isn't as in demand as characters from other features. 91-98 Disney films are the ones people remember fondest, with Pixar and anything from Princess and the Frog onwards being popular also.
Black Cauldron *is* an old shame, but its also really hard to market, Hardly anyone outside the 70's and 80's remembers Disney's output from that era all that well. Black Cauldron was a film that suffered a terrible last-minute edit from the then-new management of Eisner and co, who freaked out at how dark the film was. Problem being that people expecting a new darker Disney were left mostly dissapointed, and the usual market stayed away BECAUSE it was apparently dark. There's no memorable chaarcters from it for people to latch onto, even Gurgi - who is so annoying and insufferable in the film, that you don't feel quite so bad about the apparent sacrifice he makes anyway!
On the flip side, Disney has no qualms referencing Fantasia, which WAS a massive flop at Box office. But Sorcerer Mickey makes such good imagery, as does other characters such as Chernabog, that they use them anyway (as you don't really need to see Fantasia to know Sorcerer Mickey is a badass mofo)
I'ld love to see Rescuers and Oliver and co Merch. But I admit that's not going to happen while Disney is all about the synegy : (
In all fairness, even Disney feel they overdid Stitch a bit and dialed him down in most parks, but he's still pretty popular with the public. In Paris for some reason him AND Angel from the TV show (even though she's in only a few episodes and direct to DVD movie...) are popular. I can only assume in terms of Europe, it's because the European Disney Channel actually still shows classic shows like Little Mermaid, Aladdin and Stitch.
ViewtifulJC
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Damn, DisneyGAF in the building
DICKS AHOY
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SpacePirate Ridley
Member
I want to see in some way the 50 Disney classics.
Take out:
-Dinosaurs
-Atlantis
-Stitch (not a chance sadly)
-Treasure Planet
-Brother Bear
-Home on the Range
-Chicken Little
-Meet the Robinsons
And unite all the melody movies from Saludos Amigos until Melody Time into one stage, and the same with the rescuers and its sequel.
That makes 37 unique stages.
They can add Song of the South, Mary Poppins and Roger Rabbit for history importance.
40 stages.
That is my wish, good day sir.
JennyTablina
Member
That would be REALLY awesome, but all they can really do is vaguely reference it. Dali's Estate is VERY picky apparently. Which is why it took so long for the film to even be completed and see light of day at all, I suspect they would not look upon use of Dali's work too fondly in a video game sadly. It's sad enough as is that Destino had to make do with being a mere extra on the Fantasia Anthology Blu Ray : (
Not only would the R&D time on a game referencing all 50 extensively be INSANE, it will never happen. Also Treasure Planet, Stitch and Meet the Robinsons are pretty awesome films. But only Stitch will stand a chance of being referenced at all methinks (though I can't see Warren being that keen on Stitch anyway). Lilo and Stitch is actually a pretty awesome film if you forget the fact the main character was overadvertised.
Of those 3, only the Penguins from Mary Poppins have a chance, Song will never be referenced for reasons I already outlined. Roger Rabbit is a character Disney cannot use without Ambin okaying it, and the whole Dreamworks thing soured relations between the two ever since. (Which is why Roger Rabbit 2 never happened, even though Disney was keen on doing it)
This reminds me thatd itd be neat if they included the 3D shorts that were made in I want to say the 50s as extras in this game.
They were previously placed in front of Meet The Robinsons so theres already a conversion they can work from
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
The thing is, theres NOTHING about Hercules in the parks right now. Ive read in lots of places, that even if it was not a flop, that disney is ashamed a little bit from the movie now, apart from Hades. In the paris ride "The Art of Animation" theres a section where you watch a fanstatic reel of the most famous disney classics in different eruopean laguages. All the movies, even Pixar ones, have time to shine in the reel. The only one thats not is Hercules, that has the amazing 1 second screen time, im not kidding. Is really 1 second, in a quarter of the screen (its surrounded by Mulan, Lion King and Aladdin, that have also screen time apart).
Its really sad becuase is my favourite disney movie (knowing that there are lots of them that are better, but Hercules is near to my heart)
Im totally with you here, and it was just sad that Katzenberg get his way and cut the film making it a mess.
History says that fantasia and Pinnochio were flops becuase of World War II (cutting 40% of the european revenue), and they are so important to the history of animation, and now known and love by millions of people, that they are classic really present everyewhere. But as you say, Sorcerer Mickey and Chernabog's imagery really helps.
Stitch is still, little mermaid was taken long ago, and Aladdin was the only one with rerurns until something like 2 years ago (when they based all the program time to Phineas and Ferb or the shitty real action series for girls disney does now) in the european disney channels.
Of course Cars is pretty popular with kids, and of course Stitch seems to be pretty popular also. The sad thing is they are not that good and both franchises are stuffing the parks in an unveliable way. Although you are right, in California Stitch was not so prominent. Paris was just disgusting, I dont understand how the fuck european kids love him so much.
EDIT: Wow, the conversation goes fast, but I have fun talking about this things.
Nah, it was only my wild wish.
I hated Treasure Planet (and Ive seen it two times), I never liked Lilo and Stitch that much and I never saw Meet The Robinsons, but I heard the majority of people disliked that film.
And its sad that some of Disney history has so many problems to be used. Although I think that the character of Roger, Jessica and Baby Herman are from Walt Disney, but they have problems with the rights of some of the things and thats why the have problems with Amblin with the old sequel (the idea of the old sequel fwas not really good som i dont mind) There have been more serious talks this last years to make a sequel, so lets pray for the best.
radioheadrule83
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Given one stage has a thwomp doppleganger, any chance that ship on the Peter Pan level is like an SMB3 airship? 
JennyTablina
Member
Oh yeah, WWII was terrible for Disney - the strikes and the War did a number on their profits. But your forgetting that Fantasia was a niche film and it did show in it's Box Office sales in the states. While the lack of an additional Market really didn't help, Fantasia also initially needed cinemas to install a WHOLE NEW sound system for the "proper experience" - it got critically panned by Music Theatre people it was geared towards, because visual representation of music hall pieces was almost considered sacrilege by them, and joe public doesn't really appreciate art all that much sadly.
It actually did a whole lot better in it's 60's rerelease for certain reasons ; ) - though it's nice that since the 90's, they have given Fantasia the dues it deserved as a artistic masterpiece. That Mega Drive game was NASTY though *shudder*
Anasui Kishibe
Banned
All three I disagree with. You should watch Meet the Robinsons, even though it's CGI, it was a return to form for Disney.
Reposting this here
Major paranoia, right?
http://gbatemp.net/topic/323849-epi...ga-drive-game-castle-of-illusion/page__st__45
About Epic Mickey.
I'll put this here for fun. 'Cause this is just for fun, right? rrrrrright?
Major paranoia, right?
http://gbatemp.net/topic/323849-epi...ga-drive-game-castle-of-illusion/page__st__45
About Epic Mickey.
I'll put this here for fun. 'Cause this is just for fun, right? rrrrrright?
:|
AceBandage
Banned
And that is why April Fools Day should be banned.
Eh, I know, so many people starting doubting about everything. The fact is that he even says that there are inconsistences between the images confronting one of the levels with the concept art, saying they're inconsistent XD
And, above all, we've started hearing about it well before Nintendo Power, with Nintendo France spoiling the title itself. So...
And, above all, we've started hearing about it well before Nintendo Power, with Nintendo France spoiling the title itself. So...
And...and...and if he were mocking at us? It's from Nintendo Power, remember. I DON'T EVEN THINK THE SKY IS BLUE! IT'S ALL A LIE!
Nah, I think there's plenty of reasons why this couldn't be the April Fools joke in that issue. I doubt they could get Warren Spector to go along and lie about a game he's helping make. And why would DreamRift willingly joke about a project of theirs (this isn't like the Skullgals on NeoGeoPocket, this is DreamRifts next title when we don't know what they're up to at all).
Above all else, they've established that the April Fools content is the Quiz on page 18.
Above all else, they've established that the April Fools content is the Quiz on page 18.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I'll make a cash bet that this is real if there are any takers.
CrAzY FiNgErS
Member
And if he were to lie for the sake of an April Fool's joke would he be banned or would it all be in good fun? If this is an April Fools joke NP sure had me fooled.
sakipon
Member
Not really. Just making April Fools' jokes on any other day than the actual April Fools' Day should be banned. I've always hated it when monthly magazines try to hop in.
test_account
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Damn, i really hope this isnt an April fool :\ But come to think of it, is there any reason why this game wasnt annouced at GTTV when they mentioned Epic Mickey 2? I know it is two different games in that sense, but still.