I always believe that, mostly because the only argument against that is "But it's Nintendo (and they hate technology or something)".
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I always believe that, mostly because the only argument against that is "But it's Nintendo (and they hate technology or something)".
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
That description is interpretive. Do you consider Xbox 1's best games to blow PS2's games "out of the water?"
I don't.
ShockingAlberto
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-Pyromaniac-
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then you should be a happy camper from now on!
bgassassin
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LOL. Close enough. Since you have an infant I'll let you slide.
But yeah there definitely seems to be something to it after Li Mu Bai's post essentially said the same thing. Summarizing, if the GPU's "extra functions" are not used then the GPU is moderately more powerful than the current gen. If they are used, then the GPU is noticeably more powerful.
Or the "Remember how Nintendo fans thought Wii...".
Father_Brain
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This has been more or less what I'd expected for a while now, so I have no trouble believing this and I'm fine with it... assuming the software is there, from both first and third parties.
-Pyromaniac-
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It honestly sounds like the PS3 of this generation, except stronger. PS3 ports were worse for the part, but 1st party games that took advantage of the hardware and had good devs behind it blew ALMOST everything out of the water, and that was against the 360 which is basically equal or even better in some ways.
It just goes to show how important the developers are, and Nintendo has a lot of talented ones. If they step up their own output there could be a lot of glorious shit. And if the rare 3rd party chooses to do anything other than the bare minimum, then that's something too.
It just goes to show how important the developers are, and Nintendo has a lot of talented ones. If they step up their own output there could be a lot of glorious shit. And if the rare 3rd party chooses to do anything other than the bare minimum, then that's something too.
I do. Nothing on PS2 even comes close to Ninja Gaiden, Doom 3, Conker, or the XBox version of Chaos Theory. With those shader capabilities, it was practically half a generation ahead techwise. There had never been such a stark difference between two consoles of the same gen before that, and not counting Nintendo holding back we'll probably never see anything like it again. If Wii had the XBox's graphics tech combined with Wii's increased horsepower, a lot more people would have been satisfied with Wii's graphics.
And much easier to develop for.
He's my roommate.Did Reggie check that box for you?
I'm expecting 90% of all third-party games to look like mid-level PS360 titles. Which is good enough for my tastes, personally, but I can already hear the mockery from the peanut gallery with their dainty, delicate, Bambi-like eyes. We'll likely see one or two third-party gems per year on average, and then Nintendo's stuff will look fantastical.. which will be the cue for a chorus of third parties to complain: "we can't compete."
Still, I'm expecting some good things. It's going to be a great generation for Nintendo fans. Watch.
HYPE!
what was that about again? something to do with mega man legends 3?
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
Kojima was doing Megaman Legends 3: Subsistence for the Panasonic Jungle, but refused to move the project to a Nintendo platform once the system got canceled. It's now a Nokia Ngage 2 exclusive.
lwilliams3
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This was what I generally expected. Thanks for sharing this. Now, I noticed that you said, EVEN IF EVERYTHING I HAVE HEARD IS 100% ACCURATE, THERE COULD BE REASONS IT WILL NOT HOLD TRUE FOREVER. With the way you phrased that, is it safe to assume that there is a possibility that the Wii U may perform better than you and other think? I'm asking that because I don't think the Wii U could get weaker as time goes on.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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I'm more than fine about the console's power if ShockingAlberto's complete lies are the outright truth.
Nintendo games....with that power....in HD.....with a promising gimmick....not completely lost when the other next generation systems hit....
(was already) Sold.
Nintendo games....with that power....in HD.....with a promising gimmick....not completely lost when the other next generation systems hit....
(was already) Sold.
shadyspace
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So Wii U as next-gen's Dreamcast is a pipe dream, huh? That's what I was hoping for.
ShockingAlberto
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This was what I generally expected. Thanks for sharing this. Now, I noticed that you said, EVEN IF EVERYTHING I HAVE HEARD IS 100% ACCURATE, THERE COULD BE REASONS IT WILL NOT HOLD TRUE FOREVER. With the way you phrased that, is it safe to assume that there is a possibility that the Wii U may perform better than you and other think? I'm asking that because I don't think the Wii U could get weaker as time goes on.
I don't understand technical mumbo jumbo, but someone told me that more middleware being applied could loosen stress on the processor or something like that.
Oh yes.
I wonder if it'll come with proper connection cables. I remember reading about how the PS3 didn't come with HDMI cables, and had to laaaugh. If it doesn't come with HDMI, I hope that we can at least order them in time for Launch Day.
So the CPU sucks :/
You could order them now if you want..
TheGreatMightyPoo
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The surprise at E3 is that it will be the first cableless console ever!!!!!!!!!!
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
Me too.
By a 2010 I meant the kind of console Microsoft would release in November, 2010.
He's waiting for the Nintendo branded Monster Cables.
Hobbestetrician
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Both the PS3 and 360 still only come packed with red/yellow/white composite cables. I wonder how many people still only use those and never get better cables.
shadyspace
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I'll admit to not understanding that comparison. I didn't follow as to what console is supposed to be which in that scenario.
lwilliams3
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Ah, I see. Thanks for adding that detail.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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You know she secretly pines for Chase Mii, she just has to put out this phony edge in public.
I bet is a low(er) clocked OoO CPU. Code highly optimized for 360's (and Ps3) inflexible CPU might have some problems running without significant retooling. But the CPU will still be significant stronger.
ultrazilla
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I'm sticking with 2-3 times the power of the 360 and PS3.
Gut feeling.
Not sure where that fits with Alberto's better than current
consoles by a country mile stuff.
Gut feeling.
Not sure where that fits with Alberto's better than current
consoles by a country mile stuff.
Or improvement in current engines, API's or middle-ware. For example there is a certain Audio solution that was ported to the Wii U that ended up initially performing worse than current gen HD machines but with the right optimization it actually became a bit faster on the Wii U. I think due to the difference in architecture current middle ware solutions need to be optimized for use on the Wii U.
Well, when they bring everything BUT a Kojima game to WiiU, I'm pretty sure the cat will be out of the fucking bag regardless. But then again, we are talking about Konami, strong business sense doesn't appear to be in their blood anymore.
shinra-bansho
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That's an okay level for my tastes too; and I imagine a lot of other people's as well. The caveat is though, I'm not going to buy a new console for it; and I likewise imagine I'm not alone in this either.
Huh? What do you mean? I thought the cable would be propietary?
It's HDMI...
That would be about 50% more powerful than what we're talking about here.
With the way Nintendo touts it being HD and 1080p, it will come with HDMI and the instructions will tell you to use it "for optimal picture and sound". But either way, as stated, HDMI is non-proprietary, so ANY HDMI cable will work.
But I stand by my statement, Nintendo will include an HDMI cable, if only because they're so fucking cheap to produce and include.
Damn it. As long as Fallout 4 is on a Nintendo console then I'm content with just owning a Wii U next gen.
I'm so jealous
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
Bu-but-but, why would code from 2005/6 machines put stress on a processor designed for release in 2012?
You said you wanted the WiiU to be this gen's dreamcast, he made that exact comparison.
-Pyromaniac-
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I've said it before but the pip-boy being the controller is genius.
Seeing that in action would make me flip out haha. No need to keep going from in game to my pip-boy and back anymore.
Sorry. I thought it would be such that the TV end is regular HDMI and the console end would be some Nintendo-flavored connector (much like the component cables). {and Monsters are a friggin' ripoff!}
In that case, I'm set! Probably have three or four cables in my big box o'connectors in the office..
shadyspace
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Sounds to me like he was saying PS3/360 is N64 and Wii U is Dreamcast. I'm talking about Wii U being Dreamcast to PS4/720
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