Rand0m TAG
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maybe microsoft is trying to beat google
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Halo |OT3| Remember Reach?
- Thread starter GhaleonEB
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ElzarTheBam
Member
We've already seen the recoil.
Maybe if they actually went back and patched the DMR in Reach to be RoF locked I would be convinced that the DMR and BR are balanced in 4. Until then, I'm not buying it, because they sure have not demonstrated they can do it with the previous game they were left with.
Hopefully unlocks are all available via Campaign and Ops. Making people unlock guns for those modes by forcing them to play multiplayer would be silly.
Also, power's back now. 12 hour outage. Both utility companies were out working on it, must have been a pretty bad accident.
Hopefully unlocks are all available via Campaign and Ops. Making people unlock guns for those modes by forcing them to play multiplayer would be silly.
Also, power's back now. 12 hour outage. Both utility companies were out working on it, must have been a pretty bad accident.
Refraction Shift?
Dunno what is under that.
Confirmed on the podcast that unlocking happens in all modes and will carry through.
Someone on waypoint figured it out... Optical something or other..
zoom, room, boom, loom, groom, balloon, baboon, typhoon..
Refraction Shift?
Dunno what is under that.
Optical something. Zoom would make sense but that doesn't look like a Z.
Ok, thanks.
electricpirate
Member
The recoil is interesting in that it mostly just seems to break the auto aim that corresponds to Red Reticule. Notice how the first shot of the burst always seems to hit if they have RR, but the second and third would sail by? In Halo 2 all three would probably hit, and in Halo 3 all three would hit if made sense given travel time and spread calculations. That will probably be more important than the recoil that is in there, and will also probably be confused as being some kind of larger spread.
Gotta hold that aim down and keep it under control
Yeah that's terrible. Exactly the kind of feel of Reach's battles they should be moving away from. So frustrating feeling ill-prepared for an encounter because you didn't luckily choose the tool you had no way of knowing you'd need.
or maybe you just suck?
Hydranockz
Member
That's where the argument falls down for me. Are you any less capable of coming out of the fight alive if you have one AA over another? Really?
electricpirate
Member
Yup, that should acomplish a lot of what bloom was trying to do, hopefully without angering nearly every single member of the community this time around.
Tha Robbertster
Member
They did say some AA's can counter each other. So if Letters coincidentally has an AA that's bad against his enemy's AA and loses the fight because of it, that would kinda suck.
lolwut?
I have a feeling your AAs this time won't influence the outcomes of your battles quite as much (at least I hope not) and are more for utility rather than direct combat influence.
One utility countering another hopefully won't directly equate into being more effective in combat.
I don't mind the abilites being RPS against each other, I just don't want them to affect the actual fighting quite as much as they have in Reach. It will be an interesting and difficult balance to strike.
"Rock, paper, scissors."
EdibleExplosives
Member
It's weird how 5 seconds of footage can get me hyped as fuck for this game. The graphics look amazing, better than the RvB video for some reason.
Kif, we have a conundrum...
Just remember if you get a headshot with a BR right in the bullseye, the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
Rand0m TAG
Member
feel the same. the RvB videos actually had me disappointed in the game. the BR battle had me loving the game all over again
squidhands
Member
Yeah...got nuthin'.
now I wanna know what those tattoos are. I'm always oddly intrigued in what women get inked on their bodies (that aren't trampstamps).Just for Havok:
Just noticed Kiki is wearing "LOL Just Kitten" :3
Now that we know about the rather awesome counter to sprint, it would seem logical that the other AA's have proper counters this time. Like a charged Plasma Pistol shot or Pro-Pipe EMP to not only down shields, but also disables the whatever AA's you have.
Rand0m TAG
Member
you know what would make me laugh,
if when you unlocked the BR, it had massive spread and recoil and you had to unlock attachments to reduce them. or the dmr had bloom and you had to unlock a no bloom mechanism for it
if when you unlocked the BR, it had massive spread and recoil and you had to unlock attachments to reduce them. or the dmr had bloom and you had to unlock a no bloom mechanism for it
keep holding you breath there is still 6 full months to go.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Yea, good point. "Perks" can't just be referring to armor abilities, can they?
Correct. Only journalists called them "perks" to begin with. Frankie and David have said many times that that is not what they are.
We don't know any more about them other than each have counters, they are an improvement (or have seen changes from Reach's iteration), they're not unlimited, you can choose them in your loadouts (and customize them for your loadouts) and everyone has Sprint all the time...
Tha Robbertster
Member
The GI article stated that you could customize 5 things for your loadout:
-Primary weapon
-Secondary weapon
-Grenade type
-Armor Ability
-Something called modifications
That indicates, to me, that there will be another layer of customization. Perhaps some parts on your armor that you can change which will alter the player traits in a way? Could be a lot of things.
That's what I was expecting, as a layer on top of AAs you can tweak other traits, increase shields, movement speed, jump height etc.
When Frankie said they weren't perks in the conventional sense I was expecting them to each have a plus and minus, increase shields = lower run speed, increased jump = lower melee strength and so on.
To clarify, this isn't what I'd like to see, just what I was expecting based on the crumbs of info we had.
ncsuDuncan
Member
I wonder what the controller layout is going to look like now that we have Sprint AND an AA...
My wish:
RT - Fire
LT - Throw Grenade
RB - Melee
LB - Jump
A - Sprint
B - Reload
X - Activate AA
Y - Switch Weapon
RS - Zoom
LS - Crouch
- Sprint works just like it does in Reach's Bumper Jumper setting - Press A while holding up on LS, then steer with RS. Release LS to stop sprinting.
- Most of the AAs will work fine when mapped to X since they are typcially either one-time use (Hologram) or are toggled on/off (F.Vision, Active Camo). This can be done with a quick tap of X - your thumb can immediately return to RS for camera control.
- Jetpack is unique and can't use the X button, since for this AA you need to able to hold a button down while moving RS. Tap and hold the jump button (LB) while in the air to activate jetpack. Works almost like a double-jump.
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This is the only way I see the controls satisfying me. I don't want to see Jetpack as frustrating as it is in Reach's Bumper Jumper setting. I also don't want to see Sprint replacing Crouch on LS by default (although I'm sure at least one control scheme will do so and map crouch to B to mimic CoD).
My wish:
RT - Fire
LT - Throw Grenade
RB - Melee
LB - Jump
A - Sprint
B - Reload
X - Activate AA
Y - Switch Weapon
RS - Zoom
LS - Crouch
- Sprint works just like it does in Reach's Bumper Jumper setting - Press A while holding up on LS, then steer with RS. Release LS to stop sprinting.
- Most of the AAs will work fine when mapped to X since they are typcially either one-time use (Hologram) or are toggled on/off (F.Vision, Active Camo). This can be done with a quick tap of X - your thumb can immediately return to RS for camera control.
- Jetpack is unique and can't use the X button, since for this AA you need to able to hold a button down while moving RS. Tap and hold the jump button (LB) while in the air to activate jetpack. Works almost like a double-jump.
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This is the only way I see the controls satisfying me. I don't want to see Jetpack as frustrating as it is in Reach's Bumper Jumper setting. I also don't want to see Sprint replacing Crouch on LS by default (although I'm sure at least one control scheme will do so and map crouch to B to mimic CoD).
Rand0m TAG
Member
it wouldnt be a humourous laugh, but more of a hair pulling, baby punching hysterical laugh
Tha Robbertster
Member
Posted this scheme for Bumper Jumper a few weeks ago. The only thing I added was grenade switching to the D-pad.
D-pad up for selecting frags, D-pad left for plasmas, etc.
No matter how many times you say this, it's not a design philosophy. It's glib shorthand.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Hey guys, I just wanted to stop by real quick and complain about the people complaining about people with Halo 4 complaints. Usually the people who are complaining about the complainers have no reasoned, articulated complaint, they're just complaining about complaining, and it's really annoying.
obligatory: complainception.
I'm okay with using the D-pad, but I think it should just be "up" to switch between the two. There's no need to divide it between two different D-pad directions.
They'll have to reimplement them, and I think add it for the Anniversary maps, as Bungie.net never supported heatmaps for the Anniversary maps.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Ha, late to the party kittens, I already called myself out. You don't think that a couple people are borderline video game masochists? Its like they feed off the pain of non-perfection, all with very limited sources of information. Lets all wear black and talk about how much life sucks and how halo 4 is gonna suck, maaaan.
Edit: complaint about post complaining about people complaining about complaints about the game.
Edit: complaint about post complaining about people complaining about complaints about the game.
TS x Massacre
Member
Hahaha, Hey Frank...
I noticed in that short gif that when he put the cursor on the player their name didn't pop up as typically does in Halo games, is this reflective of the final vision?
Also, I noticed that when the blue player killed the red there was no "You killed X".. is this also indicative of the final vision for the game?
Just wondering on some of the UI Features, im sure it'll go through many iterations.
ElzarTheBam
Member
I rather have tap LB for sprint, Hold or press for armor abilities. Simple.
Also I sent you a message Robbert!
Anyone here want in on the GR FS beta? I got two codes, maybe EU only, quote to reveal! X360 only.
Hypertrooper
Member
So... When will the title and the cover of the new Forerunner book be announced?
You know... they got exclusive information of Halo 4 in the UK.
Hitmonchan107
Member
I want one, but if it's EU only, I don't want it to go to waste.
Got the second one you sexy bitch. Thanks!
ElzarTheBam
Member
Try it, see if it work, I will have plenty more tomorrow.
Hitmonchan107
Member
It worked! So much love for you right now in my body all over.
What are you, some kind of code wizard? COME OUT FROM BEHIND YOUR CURTAIN, SORCERER!