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Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes

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While I realize your joking, it seems like people often get caught up in counting the supposed amount reserved for OS functions. The OS will be iterated on and optimized before and after the console releases, I don't think there is much point to taking it into consideration when we talk about the RAM amount.

Oh, it'll be optimized and brought down surely. I can't see Nintendo being happy with a bloated OS, unless they do something incredibly out of character and offer cross-game video chat and the like.
 

Anth0ny

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Weren't there several dungeons in the NES that you couldn't enter until you had, say, the raft. Or the hammer in the case of Zelda II? I'm not understanding the difference.

No?

You needed the raft to access 1 dungeon in Zelda I. Every other screen on the map was accessible as soon as you turned on the NES.

You get the hammer after Death Mountain in Zelda II, which, for all intents and purposes, is the second dungeon of the game. You now have access to the entirety of Western Hyrule. After the fourth palace, you get the raft, and access to the entire map.

Even before the hammer, there's a solid amount of overworld, towns and caves to check out, not to mention leveling up and getting the hang of the combat system. Skyward Sword is comically linear and there is barely anything worth exploring over the entire game, let alone before the first dungeon.
 

Instro

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Am I the only one who thinks (some of) Fi & her comments were deliberately designed to be annoying(as a theme through the whole game is the lack of respect shown towards Link)? The one about "there may be something important behind this door with a giant lock on it" had t have been taking the piss. As for the Tadtones, collecting them was fine, the conversation justifying why you had to do that was foolish.

To some degree. I think the issue with Fi is that her deadpan and somewhat annoying/disrespectful personality is completely lost in between mountains of dialouge that only serve to tell the player what to do.

With regards to the Tadtones, I enjoyed gathering them but the reason for doing so is stupid. This ties back in the presentation issues that are currently a problem for the series.
 
WiiU will sell only 35% as much as Wii (which had the most disappointing specs ever) because they think it'll have disappointing specs? Do these analysts all try hard to be morons?

Yes.


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Anth0ny

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Am I the only one who thinks (some of) Fi & her comments were deliberately designed to be annoying(as a theme through the whole game is the lack of respect shown towards Link)? The one about "there may be something important behind this door with a giant lock on it" had t have been taking the piss. As for the Tadtones, collecting them was fine, the conversation justifying why you had to do that was foolish.

It's interesting that you think that SS was a radical departure, it seemed to me that they were perhaps not radical enough.

What a great idea! It's not like Navi was universally despised for her 1 second voice clips and single boxes of dialogue every now and then... lets take Navi and turn that shit up to 11!
 

BurntPork

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What's wrong with DDR3?

High latency at low speeds?

By the way, there's something I've been meaning to ask you. Whenever the subject of of the GPU fab comes up, you never mention the possibility of Nintendo choosing NEC like they have for the past two generations and you seem pretty adamant that they'll use TMSC's 40nm. Is there a particular reason for that?
 

wsippel

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I have a feeling that at least Microsoft is going for Hybrid Memory Cube (HMC). In which case, it will blow everything else out of the water.
Highly unlikely. The tech is promising, but not ready. And the first implementations aren't even expected to focus on speed. The immediate goal is to increase density and reduce power consumption.
 

Redford

aka Cabbie
What a great idea! It's not like Navi was universally despised for her 1 second voice clips and single boxes of dialogue every now and then... lets take Navi and turn that shit up to 11!

Yah, let's not carried away with the rationalizations. If there's one thing Zelda needs, IMO, it's better writing, or rather, less of it.
 
Navi would be a perfect idea if Zelda were to take place in a much bigger world that is more seamless/grand/open. If the player wanders around too long without really getting anything done, have Navi give a subtle hint about where to attempt going next. I don't mind that level of handholding.
 

Deguello

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No?

You needed the raft to access 1 dungeon in Zelda I. Every other screen on the map was accessible as soon as you turned on the NES.

You get the hammer after Death Mountain in Zelda II, which, for all intents and purposes, is the second dungeon of the game. You now have access to the entirety of Western Hyrule. After the fourth palace, you get the raft, and access to the entire map.

Even before the hammer, there's a solid amount of overworld, towns and caves to check out, not to mention leveling up and getting the hang of the combat system. Skyward Sword is comically linear and there is barely anything worth exploring over the entire game, let alone before the first dungeon.

Didn't I say dungeons? Oh wait there were more! You need to flute and the power bracelet to get into some of them! Still seems to me like the game is blocked until you get an arbitrary widget to continue. That's linear as hell.
 
Highly unlikely. The tech is promising, but not ready. And the first implementations aren't even expected to focus on speed. The immediate goal is to increase density and reduce power consumption.

Really? Last I read, they were targeting 2013 to roll it out. Time to go back to Google, I suppose. Thanks for steering me back on track.
 

wsippel

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Really? Last I read, they were targeting 2013 to roll it out. Time to go back to Google, I suppose. Thanks for steering me back on track.
Low volume production for high end appliances starting in late 2013, yes. That's the plan. And by "high end", I mean huge ass routers and maybe supercomputers, not toys.
 

Redford

aka Cabbie
Just discovered the joy of mobileGAF /blog

Anyways, it'd be nice if we could get at least a teaser image for Pikmin 3 in the next while.
 

guek

Banned
It's interesting that you think that SS was a radical departure, it seemed to me that they were perhaps not radical enough.

Well I think it was both, just in different ways. But that's a topic for another thread.

Rösti;37215327 said:

The soft muttering in the background is a nice tough. Cuz ya know nintendo just had this thing rolling on a loop in a conference room while they served donuts and coffee.
 
With regards to the Tadtones, I enjoyed gathering them but the reason for doing so is stupid. This ties back in the presentation issues that are currently a problem for the series.

I don't see how it is a presentation issue, it was just badly written (all they had to do was to have
the Water Dragon give you the song & ask you to do him a favour & collect "something",
that would have made much more sense).

Yah, let's not carried away with the rationalizations. If there's one thing Zelda needs, IMO, it's better writing, or rather, less of it.

I remain convinced that some of Fis ' handholding was deliberate, its just that they didn't really push home the lack of respect from the start, if she had have been more sarcastic it may have worked.
 
What else have you been spot on about BG? Can this things run UE4? And have you heard any rumblings as to how capable the online is?

I've only focused on the hardware so that's really it. I guess also I mentioned before it was publicly known was that newer dev kits had come out back in January for what it's worth.

I have no direct information that it can run UE4, but with the info I do have about the GPU I don't see why it couldn't other than Nintendo not bothering to get it to run. Obviously a game based on UE4 would have lower settings than a PS4/Xbox 3 version, but it's definitely in the realm of being possible.

And the first paragraph answers your third question. I've only really focused on hardware. I've only gotten vague info as to how devs feel about online. They might be pleased from what I understand, but in the end we're the ones that will be using it and that's where how good it is matters.

I'm more thinking that it was always 1.5GB and still is, but since it was in the target specs it probably doesn't include the OS reserved RAM, so 2GB total.

This is possible. The 1-1.5GB in the early specs may have been referring to the amount allocated for games. Lherre mentioned a decent amount was in the dev kit (> 2GB), and then Ideaman's more recent posts pointed in this direct as well.

I guess if I compared my info with Ideaman's, mine is older but deals more with how the final will look. His is current and has been more from a current dev kit perspective. Awhile back I compared my knowledge to a formula that I believe was 2 + x = 4. Ideaman's info would be a good representation for x.

BG does tend to enjoy hinting at things though, especially when he thinks people aren't paying close attention to what he's saying :p

Waaaah?!

I ruined my own fun. :(
 
High latency at low speeds?

By the way, there's something I've been meaning to ask you. Whenever the subject of of the GPU fab comes up, you never mention the possibility of Nintendo choosing NEC like they have for the past two generations and you seem pretty adamant that they'll use TMSC's 40nm. Is there a particular reason for that?

Am I the only one that's half expecting IBM East Fishkill plant/32nm? Matches up with the release timeline, limited run devkits now, volume production 2H/12.
 

DrWong

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IdeaMan:
I'm finishing writing it. Nothing huge though don't set your expectations as high as a complete spec sheet, it's more about dev kits, etc.
Cool. And I'm not expecting anything huge. Do you also have the French version? ;]
 

Luigison

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I was just listening to Ozzy's "Just Want U" on Pandora and opened part of the page in a new tab which made the line, "There are no unnameable names. Shall I say it again?" line repeat.

Strangely this happened while I had been reading about the resent Nintendo U fake name change.
 

BY2K

Membero Americo
Just in time for my Pizza Hut to arrive. Bring the bomb, Ideaman.

I know it won't be much, don't worry.
 
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