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Apple's iPhone accounted for 78% of AT&T smartphone activations in Q1 2012
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The Faceless Master
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Tim Cook: *laughs*
RubxQub
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I'm really wondering if there is going to be a mass-exodus over to Verizon over a 2-year period when LTE presumably comes available in the next iPhone.
There is next to no reason to go with AT&T over Verizon when it comes to LTE coverage, not to mention that Verizon appears to be thinking ahead and offering data packages across devices for a household as a way of making more money and/or saving money for savvy consumers.
Bundling data plans between my iPad and iPhone and my wife's iPhone is going to be awesome. 5-8Gb total should do the trick since I can get by with about 3-4gb on the iPad and 1-2gb on the iPhone. My wife probably uses less than 1gb a month but I'd have to check. Either way, it'll be much easier to manage.
There is next to no reason to go with AT&T over Verizon when it comes to LTE coverage, not to mention that Verizon appears to be thinking ahead and offering data packages across devices for a household as a way of making more money and/or saving money for savvy consumers.
Bundling data plans between my iPad and iPhone and my wife's iPhone is going to be awesome. 5-8Gb total should do the trick since I can get by with about 3-4gb on the iPad and 1-2gb on the iPhone. My wife probably uses less than 1gb a month but I'd have to check. Either way, it'll be much easier to manage.
I think MS will have the most success in the tablet space rather than phones. Though I would think they would do better than WP7 with 8 across the board.
And over half of all smart phones sold by Verizion in the same quarter were iPhone. Crazy.
So iPhone is outselling Android on the top 2 carriers in the US. And no doubt it is doing the same on #3 Sprint.
Also it was just yesterday someone mocked Business Insider's estimate that iPhone outsold Android on AT&T last quarter on GAF.
So iPhone is outselling Android on the top 2 carriers in the US. And no doubt it is doing the same on #3 Sprint.
Also it was just yesterday someone mocked Business Insider's estimate that iPhone outsold Android on AT&T last quarter on GAF.
The Lamonster
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haha, some nice Gaming Side humor
Al-ibn Kermit
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There hasn't been a major Android phone released since the Nexus, back in November, which is still only available on one carrier. The HTC One X is about to come out and it is the first non-Nexus phone to have ICS and 2012 specs.
That Business Insider article was all about apps/developer support. If that was everything, then why did Android ever overtake iPhone? It just makes less nonsense to think these things have waves.
My argument is basically that a large part of what makes Android appealing is the choice in hardware. There haven't been many new choices recently.
RubxQub
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I guess my biggest beef with Android distribution is that I'm not at all convinced that average everyday customers give a shit at all about Android. They may be pushed into one by a salesperson, pick one because they don't like Apple or don't own any other Apple products, or want a cheaper phone, or a phone with a keyboard or with LTE (there are obviously things Android handsets have that iPhone doesn't)...but I really don't think customers care about Android itself nearly as much as GAF does. It just happens to be the OS that just about every not-iPhone smartphone runs these days.
Like I can't ever imagine an average customer walking into a Verizon or AT&T store and asking for an Android phone by name like they do for the iPhone.
Geeks/Savvy people care about the Galaxy Nexus, The Samsung SIII launch, etc. Casual consumers walk into a phone store and pick a phone like they always have, unless they want an iPhone in which case they ask for it directly.
...perhaps I'm not seeing this clearly, but I can't picture a scenario where an average customer falls in love with Android OS specifically and prefers it over iOS unless they want features that the iPhone doesn't provide...and which case they get some other phone that does what they want it to do that just so happens to be an Android phone that's "good enough" to their eyes.
That all probably came across as incredibly "Apple fanboy-like" but I swear it's not.
I'm looking forward to the Sprint version of the iPhone so I can have unlimited LTE
Even though they haven't officially launched that network yet
Later this year is going to be very interesting. When the iPhone 5 comes out, the iPhone 4 is going to become the "free" iPhone. If Joe and Jane Doe walk into a Verizon store looking to buy new phones for their kids, do you think they're going to choose the iPhone 4 or some LG Optimus phone?
Al-ibn Kermit
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The type of people you're talking about will try typing on a 3.5 inch phone vs a 4.3 inch phone and make their decision immediately.
Screen size is far more important than OS to most non-technosexual smartphones users that I know.
AdventureRacing
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I think most of the people i know probably wouldn't even know what android is. Hell i'll be honest and say that if i didn't post on GAF i probably wouldn't and until not that long ago i was completely unaware of it.
All of them know what an iphone is (which may be why so many people seem to have one).
How do these figures compare overseas? In my experience in Australia i seem to see iphones everywhere but i don't see much of anything else.
This is also true. One of the nurses at work got one of these really big touch screen phones (no idea what it is not up to date with these things lol) and everyone seemed to really like it.
but the quad cores and such
Your wife will really love that Tegra 3 processor!
I think most people just go to the store when their contract allows them to upgrade.
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Nobody's buying LG phones, they'd be buying a Galaxy S2 for free or the iPhone 4. You'd be surprised the type of pull that Samsung has in the market now. I've heard quite a few non-tech savvy women in the office talking about their new phones and at least half of them have a smartphone other than an iPhone.
Al-ibn Kermit
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The thing is that you see the individual models of phones being advertised more than their software is. I would be surprised if most iPhone owners were aware of what iOS is.
Probably Galaxy Note? It's like 5 inches so bigger than most people could type on with one hand. It's a niche device but some people really love it. Most people probably want something smaller though.
It varies really, especially if this is a first smartphone and they're not already committed to one upgrade path (ie: newest iPhone, galaxy, etc). Just anecdotal but I and several people I know would have no problem waiting months before upgrading. I think I waited over 6 months after my contract ended before getting my current phone, which is probably outside the norm.
It's either an iPhone or a Droid amongst my circles. Verizon really won a lot of mindshare with that monicker, likely to Sprint/AT&Ts chagrin.
I believe the reason that the average consumer knows the iPhone by name before they would know any android phone is simple...
Outside of brand recognition and some better advertising from Apple's camp, there is only one iPhone. In that sense, there is only one brand of phone that runs iOS, and well, to consumers, there is only one iPhone. Even though to the nerds on the internet there are three in stores (3G, 4, 4S)...the consumers only know one: The iPhone. And the thing is, all of those phones are "iPhone"'s in a sense. The consumer doesn't care, they just want the "iPhone" and the sales associate will then direct them to the newest one. And that's just the way Apple wants it. It doesn't matter that iOS is running it, because the iPhone is the product itself.
In Android's case, customers are not aware of "Android" as a phone. They only know of phones that just happen to run Android (and that's few that know that). When they do become privy on "Android"...they ask "well, which one is Android?" and then you have tons of phones to choose from. For a consumer not interested in tech, it isn't of their concern to keep android synonymous with tons of different phones. They aren't worried about Samsung, LG, HTC, etc. in the phone world. They just want an "x-Phone"...X being a brand name. Android is not the product, it's what's running on the product. And with so many products running it, it just doesn't resonate like one single "iPhone" does.
But, I love Android.
Outside of brand recognition and some better advertising from Apple's camp, there is only one iPhone. In that sense, there is only one brand of phone that runs iOS, and well, to consumers, there is only one iPhone. Even though to the nerds on the internet there are three in stores (3G, 4, 4S)...the consumers only know one: The iPhone. And the thing is, all of those phones are "iPhone"'s in a sense. The consumer doesn't care, they just want the "iPhone" and the sales associate will then direct them to the newest one. And that's just the way Apple wants it. It doesn't matter that iOS is running it, because the iPhone is the product itself.
In Android's case, customers are not aware of "Android" as a phone. They only know of phones that just happen to run Android (and that's few that know that). When they do become privy on "Android"...they ask "well, which one is Android?" and then you have tons of phones to choose from. For a consumer not interested in tech, it isn't of their concern to keep android synonymous with tons of different phones. They aren't worried about Samsung, LG, HTC, etc. in the phone world. They just want an "x-Phone"...X being a brand name. Android is not the product, it's what's running on the product. And with so many products running it, it just doesn't resonate like one single "iPhone" does.
But, I love Android.
AdventureRacing
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This is probably true i ahdn't thought of it like that.
Yeah it was a note i think it only just came out over here or something.
Smiles and Cries
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is sprint getting an iPhone?
The note had a huge marketing push the last qtr. I saw (and still see) ads for it constantly.
Eh? It has the iPhone.
Eh? It has the iPhone.
They already have one.
I think most people just go when their contract is up. You'll see next quarter that there will still be big iPhone numbers in the millions even though the next iPhone will be available if they just wait one more quarter. The numbers bear this out year after year.
samus i am
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I have no idea why people are sticking with ATT and not switching to Sprint.
can't speak for the rest of the country but sprint is flat out awful in Los Angeles. way behind Verizon, ATT, and even T-Mobile.
Smiles and Cries
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oh I must not have been paying much attention when Sprint got into this
SirChained
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So this means iOS is starting to catch up with Android?
They got in when the 4S came out, but they also have the 4. They don't seem to have nearly as much marketing behind it as AT&T and Verizon do, though.
Manus
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And lose my 2.5 MBps 3G and go to about a 0.8 MB a sec on 3G? No thanks. ATT's 3G speed is so nice.
You're underestimating those that are grandfathered into older plans (such as unlimited data), and family plans and such.
I would switch to Verizon in a heartbeat but don't want to give up my data plan.
SirChained
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ATTs speed is so fail. I've gotten up to 5.1 Mbps on T-Mobile.
Meus Renaissance
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How are these 'activations' measured across different devices?
FlashFlooder
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Yeah, Sprint's 3G used to be crazy fast too... until they got the iPhone. T-Mobile is fast because no one uses it.
They're upgrading their 3G network this year to improve speeds, and they're implementing LTE as well. As of now though, the 3G speeds are very dependent on area.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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My mom told me she bought a Galaxy Note a week ago. That's one less iPhone user.
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If I'm not in a major city or explicitly on the highway Sprint's coverage sucks. Granted if I wasn't traveling around it wouldn't be an issue, but I do so it's a no go.
Main deal is I want something that works at the Family Lake House so that means like most "back roads" in GA you gotta have Verizon or AT&T. I'm on an ATT Family plan right now, but I could maybe see myself switching to Verizon at some point. Both honestly have similar LTE coverage down here from what I've seen.
smokeandmirrors
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I love my iPhone and it's been the best phone. But had the galaxy s2 been on Verizon I would've gotten that.
I do welcome the Apple v Samsung battle going on now though. A lot of samsungs new stuff has been impressive.
One thing though that these carriers must not get is stop fucking bloating android up with your bullshit apps and skins. Seriously. I didnt need any of the shit you put on my old droid 2.
I do welcome the Apple v Samsung battle going on now though. A lot of samsungs new stuff has been impressive.
One thing though that these carriers must not get is stop fucking bloating android up with your bullshit apps and skins. Seriously. I didnt need any of the shit you put on my old droid 2.
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