HP_Wuvcraft
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Cabin in The Woods - April 13th - Best horror film in years?
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The movie was pretty straight forward but I guess the closest thing to a twist would be
The killers are the good guys and the victims end up being the bad guys
Willkiller
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It feels so good to be able to hughlight those spoilers now!
Wow, what a film. Loved every minute of it.
Wow, what a film. Loved every minute of it.
I know the feeling. I keep clicking the Avengers thread cause I'm so hype for it, but I then speed through the thread without reading it because I'm worried about being spoiled. BUT I KEEP CLICKING IT!!!
catapult37
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Apologies if this has been said before (I've only read half the thread), but did anyone else get a major
vibe from the last act? Even though
Also did anyone else think
Portal
the audience already knew about the office evironment, the teens had this incredible moment of not knowing WTF was behind the curtain.
Also did anyone else think
WOLFRAM AND HART?
We're watching voyeurs watch a voyeur.
Oh what the, I totally thought I did. I'm usually really on top of that.
I was checking guy's name on IMDB (it's "Holden" there) but for some reason I wrote "Hensen". I have no idea why :lol.
OfWhiteSkinOnRedLeather
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Absolutely.
After they realize what all those monsters were and the camera pans out to reveal the enclosed environments. Those enclosures stacked on top of each other definitely made me think of Portal 2's living quarters that we see at the beginning.
I guess this is semi-on topic, but Anna Hutchinson just signed on to be in Spartacus on Starz.
http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/05/02/spartacus-cabin-in-the-woods/
http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/05/02/spartacus-cabin-in-the-woods/
The Outsider
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That dialogue sequence... awesome. Can't wait for the Blu-Ray release.
"Nemo... you gotta get out of there man... this shit is topsy-turvy!"
Jeff Albertson
Member
Glad you liked it bud
Wiry Girl: That's not fair! I had zombies too!
Sitterson: Yes, you had "Zombies." But this is "Zombie Redneck Torture Family." Entirely separate thing. It's like the difference between an elephant and an elephant seal.
Sitterson: Yes, you had "Zombies." But this is "Zombie Redneck Torture Family." Entirely separate thing. It's like the difference between an elephant and an elephant seal.
Seriously, some of those dialouges were just amazing. :lol
Joe Shlabotnik
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Finally saw this the other day, not knowing anything but the title and that something was not-what-it-seems about it. The fuck was this held back for four years?
And apologies for quoting from three weeks ago but I had to make this too-clever comment--
And apologies for quoting from three weeks ago but I had to make this too-clever comment--
Anton Sugar said:
So would you say you were displeased that their efforts did not sufficiently satisfy your expectations?
Lovecraftian tentacle is the generic obvious option here, not the giant hand.
brianjones
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was fun, but not as great as i was hoping
thought the idea was more interesting than the execution
the first half is kind of boring actually.. feels like a standard zombie movie mostly
also stoner guy was annoying as shit
thought the idea was more interesting than the execution
the first half is kind of boring actually.. feels like a standard zombie movie mostly
also stoner guy was annoying as shit
HP_Wuvcraft
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WordAssassin
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That may be your opinion but don't state it as fact. The movie is absolutely more comedy-satire than horror but it does have scary parts in it. Just because you weren't specifically scared by them doesn't mean it wasn't scary in any way to anyone. Two of the people (girls) in my group watched several scenes through spaces in their fingers. Both times I've seen it I heard gasps and little screams from the audience around me.
I'd agree it's not a nightmare-fuel movie, very few people would go home after watching it and sleep with the lights on. But during the actual run time of the movie, there are plenty of scary and unsettling parts.
The worst for me was the wolf make-out scene. Sure nothing happened but I was on the edge of my seat the whole time expecting something to happen.
Seeing it again this Friday. Gonna be awesome now that I've read through the companion and know all kinds of new hidden stuff to look for.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Yeah, that scene was amazing.
Also:
Also:
The hawk flying into the force field. Completely non-diagetic, but that's why it was scary.
WordAssassin
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I love that in the companion, they're both asked about the inspiration for that scene and they totally dodge and refuse to answer the question hahahaha
TheContact
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Please God let the Blu-Ray release have a director / writer commentary.
adamsappel
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There's 21 (or 11) pages discussing what was good about it. Why were you not impressed?
Willkiller
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Loved it. Not going to post a massive post why, I think that's been covered enough in the thread already. It just totaly nailed everything it tried to do.
No offense intended at all, but are you sure you got it? Every professional review I've read that described it as average or unimpressive betrayed clear misunderstanding of or just missed points altogether. If you take it at face value I can kind of see how it would seem a pretty campy horror movie and nothing else... I really have to strain not to look deeper though.
Very much possible. All I saw was
a scary movie where the cause of horror was actually a bureau of people pleasing old gods. For a moment I picked some undertones of how hard it is to scare people these days and how hard it was to fit people in the stereotypical types demanded by the old gods.
Ah man. If you can stomach it, I'd really rewatch it again sometime.
The movie is about
the "ritual" of making horror movies. The "old gods" are the audience. We want the filmmakers to manipulate the characters into acting in ways that conform to a pretty specific, repeatable pattern. Think about it- who was orchestrating it all? The "Director"?
It's certainly arguable that it's barely a horror movie at all, which makes me take issue with the thread title a little, but honestly, I can't say I'm not glad I was misled before walking into the theater (I thought it was just a horror movie too).
And here's the problem. It wasn't a scary movie,
it was a satire. The movie makes fun of conventions that are in slasher movies since forever. It tries to "rationalize" them and breaks them, ultimately showing that they are not working anymore and that people want something new. Every cliche known from stupid "teens gets killed" horrors is there, twisted in some way. "We should stick together. [researcher releases the gas] No, I have a better idea - let's split up!"
"Good idea."
"...
Really?"
"...
Really?"
My respect for the movie has just doubled. Will re-watch. Thanks
I don't know why exactly but this post is incredibly satisfying.You've inspired me, I'm going to put together a little post based on all the reading I've been doing following seeing and loving this film.
edit: Somebody say something so I can publish my huge post and bump this thread without double posting
screw it, it's been over an hour. forum forgive me
So I've been doing a looot of reading and research in the aftermath of this movie, just because it's fascinating to me how clear this stuff all seems after having it spelled out for you. Maybe to you, NeoGAF genius, this stuff was all suuuuuper obvious or whatever and you already knew every last inch of the genre, but I got a real kick out of it.
WARNING: Many of these links go to TVTropes. On a related note, I apologize for linking you to TVTropes.
Second warning: Although the black text should make it clear to avert your eyes if you haven't seen the movie, you can't really spoiler links, so here is your chance to ignore this post if you haven't seen the movie, as it will be STUFFED full of spoilers even if not explicit ones.
So first, the "get" of the film:
I beg of you, please don't post about how you found this subtext to be blatantly obvious and you can't imagine how anyone could have missed it and it was such a boring metaphor and yadda yadda yadda; there have been multiple people in this very thread that missed it on first viewing, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Okay cool.
Here's a list of tropes that Cabin in the Woods addresses, lampshades, subverts, mocks, etc.:
Tropes that I was seriously surprised during my research that Cabin in the Woods does not play with:
That's pretty much all I could think of though. They reallllly hit on a lot of them.
...you know, it didn't occur to me to actually just check out the Cabin in the Woods page itself until I finished this list, I swear. And man did they do a better job than I did. I also learned a couple things reading this over, one of my favorites being:
And finally, a very non-exhaustive list of movies to either rewatch or watch for the first time with all of this stuff, and the general point of The Cabin in the Woods in mind:
WARNING: Many of these links go to TVTropes. On a related note, I apologize for linking you to TVTropes.
Second warning: Although the black text should make it clear to avert your eyes if you haven't seen the movie, you can't really spoiler links, so here is your chance to ignore this post if you haven't seen the movie, as it will be STUFFED full of spoilers even if not explicit ones.
So first, the "get" of the film:
This movie is not about a cabin in the woods, or hedonistic teenagers, or a secretive agency taking bets on their scheme to appease the old gods.
This movie is about making horror movies. Specifically, it is about how truly stagnant and formulaic the genre has become, and how infrequently the viewers (the "old gods") are challenged by something different.
This movie is about making horror movies. Specifically, it is about how truly stagnant and formulaic the genre has become, and how infrequently the viewers (the "old gods") are challenged by something different.
I beg of you, please don't post about how you found this subtext to be blatantly obvious and you can't imagine how anyone could have missed it and it was such a boring metaphor and yadda yadda yadda; there have been multiple people in this very thread that missed it on first viewing, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Okay cool.
Here's a list of tropes that Cabin in the Woods addresses, lampshades, subverts, mocks, etc.:
The Slasher film genre in general - read the whole "defining the sub-genre" section, specifically this bit:
List of Horror Movie Serial Killers - Holy shit we have seen this basic pattern followed, with minor variations, so many times
Developing Doomed Characters - Why doesn't the movie just start in the woods? Because we want to see that these eclectic youngsters have real-life problems and concerns - because we care so much about that shit
Final Girl - "the virgin" - (her death is optional so long as it's last)
Don't Go in the Woods - And we're off!
Creepy Gas Station Attendant - Seriously. How do you not abandon your travel plans when you run into this guy? I have to say, the "speakerphone" scene is one of my absolute favorites.
The punishment of the character's vices - They MUST transgress, you see.
The Creepy Basement - Really, why do any characters EVER go down there? If you are ever in an unknown residence and you find yourself compelled for some reason to go down into a basement or cellar, IMMEDIATELY GET INTO YOUR CAR AND DRIVE TO A HEAVILY POPULATED AREA AND NEVER RETURN
Death of the Genre Savvy Character - deliciously, cheerfully subverted. We believe Marty has died despite being the only one who has a rational view of what's going on, but...
Improvised Weapon - yeah that's right. A fucking extend-o-bong. Wielded by...
The Erudite Stoner - goddamn, never has a trope fit a satire so well. Personally, Marty was the best thing about the movie for me. Why isn't he acting like the agency wanted him to? They even spiked his weed to make him more suggestible to their drugs! But wait, he brought his special hidden stash that they didn't find in time. Erudite indeed, Marty.
Slashers Prefer Blondes - I was so, so happy when I stumbled onto this trope. Not only was it specifically mentioned in the first minutes of the film that Jules just died her hair blonde, it turns out the agency specifically put dumbification drugs in her hair dye. Outstanding.
Fanservice - Just about every damn frame of Jules once we get to the cabin. Followed of course by...
Death by Sex - make sure the audience gets to see some boobies first - it's rated R after all.
Just Here for Godzilla - or in this case, just here for the sex, scares, and gore - really, who in the audience of the movie was invested in the little burgeoning romance between Holden and Dana? WHO?
Lowered Monster Difficulty - even though the torture zombies kill their target multiple times when they get a clear shot, he takes long enough fighting Dana for Marty to show up.
Big Red Button - "Purge," hehe
Paint the Town Red - my favorite subversion; you expect to see the cabin drenched in blood by the end of the running time- what you don't expect is to see the pristine agency walls introduced in the first shot of the movie covered in flesh and guts as a result of rampaging mermen and homicidal unicorns.
Metafiction (see In the Mouth of Madness, Scream, New Nightmare)
Developing Doomed Characters - Why doesn't the movie just start in the woods? Because we want to see that these eclectic youngsters have real-life problems and concerns - because we care so much about that shit
Final Girl - "the virgin" - (her death is optional so long as it's last
)Don't Go in the Woods - And we're off!
Creepy Gas Station Attendant - Seriously. How do you not abandon your travel plans when you run into this guy? I have to say, the "speakerphone" scene is one of my absolute favorites.
The punishment of the character's vices - They MUST transgress, you see.
The Creepy Basement - Really, why do any characters EVER go down there? If you are ever in an unknown residence and you find yourself compelled for some reason to go down into a basement or cellar, IMMEDIATELY GET INTO YOUR CAR AND DRIVE TO A HEAVILY POPULATED AREA AND NEVER RETURN
Death of the Genre Savvy Character - deliciously, cheerfully subverted. We believe Marty has died despite being the only one who has a rational view of what's going on, but...
Improvised Weapon - yeah that's right. A fucking extend-o-bong. Wielded by...
The Erudite Stoner - goddamn, never has a trope fit a satire so well. Personally, Marty was the best thing about the movie for me. Why isn't he acting like the agency wanted him to? They even spiked his weed to make him more suggestible to their drugs! But wait, he brought his special hidden stash that they didn't find in time. Erudite indeed, Marty.
Slashers Prefer Blondes - I was so, so happy when I stumbled onto this trope. Not only was it specifically mentioned in the first minutes of the film that Jules just died her hair blonde, it turns out the agency specifically put dumbification drugs in her hair dye. Outstanding.
Fanservice - Just about every damn frame of Jules once we get to the cabin. Followed of course by...
Death by Sex - make sure the audience gets to see some boobies first - it's rated R after all.
Just Here for Godzilla - or in this case, just here for the sex, scares, and gore - really, who in the audience of the movie was invested in the little burgeoning romance between Holden and Dana? WHO?
Lowered Monster Difficulty - even though the torture zombies kill their target multiple times when they get a clear shot, he takes long enough fighting Dana for Marty to show up.
Big Red Button - "Purge," hehe
Paint the Town Red - my favorite subversion; you expect to see the cabin drenched in blood by the end of the running time- what you don't expect is to see the pristine agency walls introduced in the first shot of the movie covered in flesh and guts as a result of rampaging mermen and homicidal unicorns.
Metafiction (see In the Mouth of Madness, Scream, New Nightmare)
Tropes that I was seriously surprised during my research that Cabin in the Woods does not play with:
Token Minority, usually one of the first to die. Seriously this is even more common in slasher movies than you think (it's already a pop culture cliché of course)
Dark Secret - I guess this was in there, used as a kind of throwaway joke at the end ("You know, I don't think Curt even has a cousin.") But I expected him to admit that he brought them to the cabin under false pretenses while breaking down crying or something, once Jules was decapitated. I.E.: He was promised some kind of reward in return for bringing his friends to the cabin for the weekend.
Dark Secret - I guess this was in there, used as a kind of throwaway joke at the end ("You know, I don't think Curt even has a cousin.") But I expected him to admit that he brought them to the cabin under false pretenses while breaking down crying or something, once Jules was decapitated. I.E.: He was promised some kind of reward in return for bringing his friends to the cabin for the weekend.
That's pretty much all I could think of though. They reallllly hit on a lot of them.
...you know, it didn't occur to me to actually just check out the Cabin in the Woods page itself until I finished this list, I swear. And man did they do a better job than I did. I also learned a couple things reading this over, one of my favorites being:
And finally, a very non-exhaustive list of movies to either rewatch or watch for the first time with all of this stuff, and the general point of The Cabin in the Woods in mind:
Friday the 13th - Along with Halloween, sort of the reason this movie is able to exist
Halloween
Evil Dead
Night of the Living Dead
A Nightmare on Elm Street
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
The Hills Have Eyes
Scream
I Know What You Did Last Summer
In the Mouth of Madness
New Nightmare
House of Wax - holy shit did they barely deviate from the formula for this one, or what? And the old gods sure loved the punishment of "the whore"- Paris Hilton- this time around. Almost every review I read for this mentions how great her death is.
Halloween
Evil Dead
Night of the Living Dead
A Nightmare on Elm Street
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre
The Hills Have Eyes
Scream
I Know What You Did Last Summer
In the Mouth of Madness
New Nightmare
House of Wax - holy shit did they barely deviate from the formula for this one, or what? And the old gods sure loved the punishment of "the whore"- Paris Hilton- this time around. Almost every review I read for this mentions how great her death is.
I said totally non-exhaustive! BUT those are both such good examples that I'm adding them.
NeoGAF genius? Come oooon man, the movie was just full of cliches that should've been noticeable to anyone that even remotely likes horror movies. It's just one big parody really which becomes clear pretty damn quick. All of those tropes you listed were very obvious to spot without having someone point them out but I suppose people who are new to the horror genre might find it cool how they played with all the horror movie stereotypes.
Go see The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Cube, some scenes from Cabin in the Woods are very resembling of scenes from those movies. I don't really get your point though, why would you want people to see those movies? I guess so they can see all the stereotypes of horror? Again though, I think everyone who loves horror movies already knows all of that stuff and doesn't need to rewatch them to confirm the stereotypes, it should be pretty obvious that they all adhere to the same blueprint.
Go see The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Cube, some scenes from Cabin in the Woods are very resembling of scenes from those movies. I don't really get your point though, why would you want people to see those movies? I guess so they can see all the stereotypes of horror? Again though, I think everyone who loves horror movies already knows all of that stuff and doesn't need to rewatch them to confirm the stereotypes, it should be pretty obvious that they all adhere to the same blueprint.
Just got back from the midnight showing.
I enjoyed it. There's a ton of "WTF?!" moments that leave the viewer asking/wondering
what's going on and that's the hook of the movie. It plays with our perceptions of horror films as well as the cliches inherent in most of them.
Now will you be able to figure out the ending? I can usually "call" an ending on a movie as many of you can probably do also. This one-no.
The ending is complete, utter madness and a pretty amazing pay off.
See man, now this I don't get. It's these two posts that actually made me want to see the movie. I was very excited for the ending and plot twists but there wasn't a single plot twist and the ending was predictable as hell. Not just predictable, I was actually rooting for that to happen and it did! Your second post is just weird, it's a flat out lie.
Within the first few minutes, there's this scene with the gas station redneck. Normally, this would introduce a little fear but then they go on and make fun of him, not just cracking a little joke but they just keep making fun of him. I loved that scene and from then on it was pretty apparent that this was going to be a comedy; I was still wary however, hoping the movie would actually become scary. Then there's:
- the zombies which had a really shitty animation, not making them scary at all
- the researchers having fun, drinking and making jokes while all of this goes down
- the japanese kids turning a japanese ghost into a frog
- a dead king kong
- all those nightmarish creatures that were released in the elevator scene, turning everything into a huge bloodbath. This was funny because of some of the creatures were just weird, like the molesting tree, that snake, the robot thingie, etc.
There are very little genuinely scary scenes in the movie.
- the zombies which had a really shitty animation, not making them scary at all
- the researchers having fun, drinking and making jokes while all of this goes down
- the japanese kids turning a japanese ghost into a frog
- a dead king kong
- all those nightmarish creatures that were released in the elevator scene, turning everything into a huge bloodbath. This was funny because of some of the creatures were just weird, like the molesting tree, that snake, the robot thingie, etc.
There are very little genuinely scary scenes in the movie.
Huh? The use of cliche is intentional.NeoGAF genius? Come oooon man, the movie was just full of cliches that should've been noticeable to anyone that even remotely likes horror movies. It's just one big parody really which becomes clear pretty damn quick. All of those tropes you listed were very obvious to spot without having someone point them out but I suppose people who are new to the horror genre might find it cool how they played with all the horror movie stereotypes.
Go see The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Cube, some scenes from Cabin in the Woods are very resembling of scenes from those movies. I don't really get your point though, why would you want people to see those movies? I guess so they can see all the stereotypes of horror? Again though, I think everyone who loves horror movies already knows all of that stuff and doesn't need to rewatch them to confirm the stereotypes, it should be pretty obvious that they all adhere to the same blueprint.
The lab forces cliches because it's what the gods demand. The gods are us, or movie executives depending on how you want to look at it. We've been fed this same formula over and over, and it's not satisfying as well as it used to. It's not being executed as well, because times have changed.
I'm not new to the horror genre. I'm not a scholar in it either, but I'm not new to it. And I found the way Cabin played with genre interesting. So it's not only interesting to newbies. That's a silly statement.
Also, you can be well-versed in horror tropes without having seen every horror film. In fact, that's sort of the point of Cabin:
the motions have become far too tired.
It sucks to say this but I do think, looking at this thread, that it's often true with this film: I don't think you got it.
"It" being that the film was a critique of the horror genre, of its audiences and its filmmakers.
There are plot twists in this film, by definition.
There isn't really a last-minute reveal that changes the rest of the film in the vein of Usual Suspects or Sixth Sense, but at the beginning of the film you do not know that people fitting stereotypes need to be sacrificed once a year in order to keep gigantic human-destroying gods satiated or that the film will state that the horror genre has decayed due to a refusal to innovate and over-reliance on certain tropes, so it's better to break it all down and try to start from scratch. Did you predict that would happen? I very much doubt it. But if you really did: good job! The film still had a "twist," though. Anticipating a plot movement doesn't mean it didn't exist, it just means you anticipated it. And even if you anticipated 100% of the huge amount of stuff that happened in this film, it still happened.
Horror and comedy are not and never have been mutually exclusive. Your second post doesn't say anything about why zero moments in the film are scary, it just lists funny moments. They can coexist. As discussed above, I think the
wolf kissing scene is eerie as fuck. I think the girl being killed counts as scary. I think the elevator scene is tense.
Wow- it's funny to see a post that mocks what I said wasn't entirely obvious to me, while simultaneously seeming to miss the major thrust of the film.NeoGAF genius? Come oooon man, the movie was just full of cliches that should've been noticeable to anyone that even remotely likes horror movies. It's just one big parody really which becomes clear pretty damn quick. All of those tropes you listed were very obvious to spot without having someone point them out but I suppose people who are new to the horror genre might find it cool how they played with all the horror movie stereotypes.
Go see The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Cube, some scenes from Cabin in the Woods are very resembling of scenes from those movies. I don't really get your point though, why would you want people to see those movies? I guess so they can see all the stereotypes of horror? Again though, I think everyone who loves horror movies already knows all of that stuff and doesn't need to rewatch them to confirm the stereotypes, it should be pretty obvious that they all adhere to the same blueprint.
I'm pretty well-versed in horror, both the dated stuff and the post-revitalization era, and it was very amusing just to go over all these tired clichés with a new lens. You don't have to find the same things amusing!
I'm surprised I didn't include the Texas Chainsaw Massacre on my list of rewatches- that's a perfect one. I'm especially surprised because I threw The Hills Have Eyes on there. Whatever. Cube is a very enjoyable movie but it is not a slasher film and doesn't really belong (
if we were trying to draw equivalencies, the "Fool" would be the only one to survive...?
True. What's ultimately great about it to me is that it's not only a genre deconstruction a la Scream (in which the clichés are toyed with but eventually embraced in-universe nonetheless) butbig ander said:
a film that contextualizes the actual experience of watching a clichéd horror movie through the fourth wall.
Come on. Who among you wasn't waiting to see some tits at the exact moment Bradley Whitford mentions the necessity for an unveiling of boob?
Come on. Who among you wasn't waiting to see some tits at the exact moment Bradley Whitford mentions the necessity for an unveiling of boob?
Eh? Of course I got it, I even said that the movie is
just one big parody, using all the cliches of past horror movies. I know that it's intended to be satire and to make fun of all the overdone stereotypical stuff that happens in horror movies. Hawkian said "it's fascinating to me how clear this stuff all seems after having it spelled out for you" and that took me by surprise since it was actually all very obvious to me what the movie was referring to. That's also why I think it'd be weird for someone to rewatch those movies: you already know how much they cling to stereotypes. Would be cool to notice them on a first watch I guess, but that kinda takes away from the actual horror, it would make you look for the stereotypes and laugh them off and you'll end up not enjoying it as much.
big ander said:
Hmm? If you can't guess/predict something right at the start of a movie, that doesn't mean it's a plot twist. A plot twist guides you, tries to push you towards a certain perception and then completely blows your mind by revealing something you'd never think of.
I think it was very clear that they needed to sacrifice them for ancient gods and was really hoping that the ancients would appear (I'm always hoping for a bad ending though) and they did.. They also hint several times that they needed to sacrifice the youngsters or else something terrible would happen (all the other countries failed, it was up to America's team to prevent something horrible). I never saw the trailer so I did like the force field though, but was hardly a plot twist. I do wonder what you mean by "the huge amount of stuff that happened" though, care to elaborate on that? And I do mean plot twists], not just cool stuff that happens like the elevator scene.
big ander said:
It doesn't really matter how many scary moments there are. When you have this many funny moments in your movie, it really takes away from true horror and really helps to lighten the mood. Something pretty bad happens and that's alleviated by something funny happening, this carries on throughout the entire movie.
Also, I think it's pretty obvious that the cubes in the movie poster refer to
all the cube cells that hold the monsters. There's even this scene where you're shown the bigger picture and see all these cubes shifting around, exactly like they did in Cube.
Okay....
I don't blame people for not being as genre savvy as you and I. Where we differ is that I had a real blast looking up all these tropes and clichés as a result of seeing them plastered over a new, hilarious model; you seem to have found it boring. That's fine, but you don't have to denigrate the fact that I found it interesting and less obvious, let alone that some viewers didn't get it at all.
Look, it's great that you got it all on spec, but the post that actually inspired me to compile all those links and suggestions was this one:
I know you aren't stating it, but aren't you kind of implying that mik83kuu is an idiot because he or she didn't get it?
I don't blame people for not being as genre savvy as you and I. Where we differ is that I had a real blast looking up all these tropes and clichés as a result of seeing them plastered over a new, hilarious model; you seem to have found it boring. That's fine, but you don't have to denigrate the fact that I found it interesting and less obvious, let alone that some viewers didn't get it at all.
Hilariously enough, I think you're actually reaching to draw this comparison
I wasn't mocking what you said, I really figured you just hadn't seen a lot of horror movies and that you thought it was awesome to read over those cliche tropes and found it surprising how many of them were included in The Cabin in the Woods.
Hawkian said:
I added Cube because there's
a scene that's pretty much exactly like a scene from one of the Cube films. You get to see the bigger picture, just how many cubesand possible horrors there are. In Cube the danger contained in the cubes are booby traps, in Cabin in the Woods it's monsters.
Hawkian said:
Taco_Human
Member
Good to see this thread again. I saw it last week. What a great movie. I liked the portal reference.
...:O What portal reference?
Sorry for being unclear or misinterpreting you then- I didn't find it surprising, once I "got" the movie I just found it awesome.
Nah man, I wouldn't belittle people if they actually had very little experience with the horror genre. But I dunno, I think that even if you've seen a small amount of horror movies that it should still be easy to notice the concepts the movie is making fun of.
Hawkian said:Hilariously enough, I think you're actually reaching to draw this comparison
Haha.
Yeah, I know why you might think so, but I still believe that the way
the monsters have been setup is a huge reference to Cube. That scene where they zoom out and show you all these cubes gave me a huuuge Cube vibe. Especially the way they shifted around, that's just a giveaway in my opinion.
I disagree. "Shaun of the Dead" for example, while being mostly a [romantic] comedy with zombies, still got few pretty scary moments (although one should define what "scary" really means, because I haven't ever seen a horror movie that would sincerely scared me and left me with wet pants or screaming in terror). The whole "Winchester Bar" sequence near the end of the movie was tense and definitely belongs to a horror genre (mostly because at that point I actually cared about the characters, something I can't say about 99% of horror movies that fails at creating sympathetic characters instead of just cannon fodder).
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I too was reminded of
Cube with that one shot, but I didn't think it was an intentional reference, since that film doesn't really jibe with the rest of the film and the tropes it invokes.
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