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April 2012 NPD Sales Results [Up3: Best selling game sold less than 236K, Kid Icarus]

FoneBone

Member
There's no way the game sold that much. Their source is ********. They're a banned site for a reason. They make up their numbers. The game probably didn't sell a quarter of that amount.

Hell, I doubt that many copies were even shipped. Retailer exclusives are usually fairly limited runs.
 

Rebel Leader

THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
According to Eurogamer, Xenoblade is excluded as it is retailer exclusive?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...ips-kinect-star-wars-to-top-of-april-us-chart

"Acclaimed Wii RPG Xenoblade Chronicles was a retailer exclusive, so is excluded from NPD's monthly report. "

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AHA-Lambda

Member
Wow the US market is getting as bad as the UK with its bad taste. Star Wars Kinect and Prototype. I can't wait until next gen, we needs some new IPs and new ideas.

I think people really overestimate the need for new ip at times. Havent games like CoD, AC etc. proven that sequels are the one thing that are dependable in this soft retail market?
 
· During the month of April, “Kinect Star Wars” held the number one game title in the U.S. Xbox 360 held seven of the top 10 U.S. console game titles including: “Kinect Star Wars,” “The Witcher Two: Assassin of Kings Enhanced ED,” “Prototype 2,” “Tiger Woods PGA Tour 13,” “Mass Effect 3,” “NBA 2K12” and “Major League Baseball 2K12.” (Source: NPD Group, April 2012)
I don't see how that makes sense. How can it be in the top 10 console titles but not in that top 10 in the OP. It is not like there are any handheld games or big PC games above it.


Wow . . . what a dismal month. Is gaming dying? Good weather had kids playing outside? No good releases? Kids too busy texting each other on iPhones?
 

Kazerei

Banned
more likely MLB the show ps3
This is much more likely. Microsoft does not acknowledge portable titles when it makes comments like "they had 7 out of the 10 selling console releases" for the month. Kid Icarus: Uprising is not considered a console title in their PRs.

That makes sense. I was surprised to see MLB 2K12 mentioned in the top ten SKUs. It's probably on the top ten console SKUs, but gets knocked out by Kid Icarus on the top ten console+portable SKUs.
 

Ridley327

Member
It didn't.
How is it good news for a sequel to launch with sales of less than 236K when the IP debuted with 600K three years ago with a much smaller system install base?

The real bad news about this is that Radical Entertainment's days are numbered. I'm already waiting for the PR about their closure to be delivered once the DLC dries up.
 

Glix

Member
Is there even a thought among publishers that their anti-consumer policies might be even somewhat to blame for the huge downtrends in software sales.

The crazy part is that as the numbers go down, the bullshit and anti-consumer tactics INCREASE, further contributing to the downward spiral. So frustrating.

Lastly, the focus on FB, social, free to play, etc.... So, if 2-5% of the players are whales... You are now catering to an ultraniche, hoping to make money...

the whole thing is so baffling, and seems so obvious. I know I'm oversimplifying... but these charts get me so depressed.
 

jj984jj

He's a pretty swell guy in my books anyway.
Wouldn't it be a first party title? Except for the few shares of the company that Takahashi, Hoone, and Sugiura have, Nintendo fully owns Monolithsoft.
To Nintendo they've been first party since they acquired that majority share anyway. A second party to them is a developer like Silicon Knights, where they have a small investment in the company but don't own it.
 

Ridley327

Member
I don't see how that makes sense. How can it be in the top 10 console titles but not in that top 10 in the OP. It is not like there are any handheld games or big PC games above it.

MS is referring to an individual formats chart that the NPD no longer makes public. We know that Kid Icarus would have made it.
 
I don't see how that makes sense. How can it be in the top 10 console titles but not in that top 10 in the OP. It is not like there are any handheld games or big PC games above it.

The top 10 in the OP is multiplatform. Because of The Show, MLB2k probably did most of it's sales on the 360 which would put it higher in an individual chart compared to the mulitplat one.
 

AHA-Lambda

Member
The real bad news about this is that Radical Entertainment's days are numbered. I'm already waiting for the PR about their closure to be delivered once the DLC dries up.
Yeah, weren't ATVI's expectations for prototype 2 like 4 million or something?

Yea...expect lay offs at least, and no continuation of the prototype ip

I wonder if the decline shows fatigue in the length of this generation at this point.

Hell, that's what I hope :/
Its like Anita said though, if there is compelling software released it DOES sell well. At this point though that's only the biggest 10% of AAA games though, this gen has gotten too long in the tooth and I think it shows.
 

UberTag

Member
I don't see how that makes sense. How can it be in the top 10 console titles but not in that top 10 in the OP. It is not like there are any handheld games or big PC games above it.
It can easily make that list if the other multi-SKU listings are padded with sales from other systems.

During the month of April, “Kinect Star Wars” held the number one game title in the U.S. Xbox 360 held seven of the top 10 U.S. console game titles including: “Kinect Star Wars,” “The Witcher Two: Assassin of Kings Enhanced ED,” “Prototype 2,” “Tiger Woods PGA Tour 13,” “Mass Effect 3,” “NBA 2K12” and “Major League Baseball 2K12.” (Source: NPD Group, April 2012)
My bet is the other 3 "console games" that charted in the Top 10 U.S. console game titles list were Mario Party 9 Wii, Just Dance 3 Wii and MLB The Show 12. And that Prototype 2 PS3 did not make the cut.

MS is referring to an individual formats chart that the NPD no longer makes public. We know that Kid Icarus would have made it.
Kid Icarus would make the overall Top 10 individual SKU list but Microsoft excludes portable titles when creating their PRs.
I doubt MLB 2K12 360 would make the cut with portables in the mix.

Very confusing when there are essentially 3 Top 10 lists out there: NPD combined SKU, individual Top 10 SKU and the Top 10 U.S. console game titles list that Microsoft references to pad their press releases.
 

Miles X

Member
So perhaps the first sub 100k month for Wii? PS3 isn't usually off 360's # by far. Damn it's looking bad all round.
 

Tookay

Member
Is there even a thought among publishers that their anti-consumer policies might be even somewhat to blame for the huge downtrends in software sales.

The crazy part is that as the numbers go down, the bullshit and anti-consumer tactics INCREASE, further contributing to the downward spiral. So frustrating.

Judging from these sales - where the games that are regularly shat upon or ignored by most forum goers are the top sellers - I don't think our concerns translate to the masses at all. Anti-consumer policies might hurt sales a bit, but it isn't a large reason for the sales drop; there aren't enough people who even know about those policies to make this big of a dent.

This generation has run its course, the economy is still shit, people have seen everything from most of the series/franchises... these are the reasons why sales are slowing down.
 

Glix

Member
The real bad news about this is that Radical Entertainment's days are numbered. I'm already waiting for the PR about their closure to be delivered once the DLC dries up.

Just up your assholeness by 100000x times and you could do Bobby's super hard job! I detest the way Activision does business. I would get some comfort thinking about how the way they have behaved this gen will eventually ruin the company, but Bobby will ride his golden parachute out of there (along with the other bigwigs) and the people who actually care about making games will get fucked as usual. So bummed
 
Well this industry is good and fucked.

Yes, the retail gaming industry is headed in a downword spiral that won't likely stop but when games like FIFA and MW3 are doing over $100 million a piece in DLC, these retail reports don't give us enough info to doom the entire industry.
Xenoblade apparently isn't of NPD's concern as it is, why would anita mention anything about games they didn't track?

NPD tracks Gamestop so NPD tracked Xenoblade. Eurogamer makes a lot of shitty assumptions when it comes to sales talk so unless we hear from NPD, this can just be another notch on the assumption belt.
 
Judging from these sales, where the games that are regularly shat upon or ignored by most forum goers are the top selling games, I don't think our concerns translate to the masses at all. It might hurt sales a bit, but it isn't a large reason for the sales drop. There aren't enough people who even know about these anti-consumer policies to make this big of a dent.

This generation has run its course, the economy is still shit, people have seen everything from most of the series/franchises... these are the reasons why sales are slowing down.

I'd agree with this. None of this month's games were really blockbuster/must-have kind of games.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Operation Raccoon City sold more in its opening week in Japan than the best selling game did in the U.S. in all of April.
 
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