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[kewlmyc]

In an earnings presentation today, Namco Bandai said that 27% of its games lost money in 2011. This was actually a boast. As recently as 2009, 50% of the publisher's games lost money.

You can see Namco Bandai's presentation materials here.

The materials reveal some of the publisher's sales targets:

Tekken Tag Tournament 2: Over 2 million
Soul Calibur V (North America): 650,000
BEN10: 400,000
Naruto Narutimate Storm Generation (North America): 300,000

Soul Calibur V and Naruto's Europe and Japan targets were included in last year's forecasts.

http://andriasang.com/con0yj/namco_bandai_targets/

So, do you think they can reach it, or are fighting games starting to decline in sales?

 

[Glix]

That is VERY optimistic.

 

[djplaeskool]

Game will be godlike...but that's a stretch. Possible, but it will be a slog to the number.
With the number of fighting games out there, I don't think they will replicate the successes T5 and 6 were.

 

[I-hate-u]

That is VERY optimistic.

2 million is on the lower ends for a tekken game. Maybe because its a spinoff and not a numbered game

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Tekken 6 did not do to good if i remember right but 2 million for TTT 2 is very possible if it's good and the fan base still there .

 

[bishoptl]

I'll do my bit and buy two copies.

 

[Lothars]

I'm looking forward to this, I loved TTT1 and I enjoyed the demo of this.

 

[Glix]

2 million is on the lower ends for a tekken game. Maybe because its a spinoff and not a numbered game

Didn't seem to help SFvT

 

[StuBurns]

I expect it'll do about that, doesn't seem outlandish or overly conservative.

 

[I-hate-u]

Didn't seem to help SFvT

What ever happened to Sfxt was on Capcom's part not Namco's. But I reckon most of that games sales came from brand name as the game is filled to the brim with broken game faults and horrible business decisions.

 

[shintoki]

Shipped. I can see it. Didn't they flood the stores with Tekken 6? To where it was 10$ a month after.

 

[I-hate-u]

Tekken 6 did not do to good if i remember right but 2 million for TTT 2 is very possible if it's good and the fan base still there .

3 million in less than a year is bad?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-06-tekken-6-breaks-million-marker

 

[MightyKAC]

SFxT did 1.4 million and people hated that game so I'm pretty sure this will hit 2 mil with no problems.

 

[AAK]

It'll get there easy.

 

[The Dutch Slayer]

HA good one, shipped sure you can ship as many as you want.
Selling 2 mil good one

 

[Tizoc]

I personally think it'll meet that target.

 

[Glix]

What ever happened to Sfxt was on Capcom's part not Namco's. But I reckon most of that games sales came from brand name as the game is filled to the brim with broken game faults and horrible business decisions.

For sure. I'm just saying it won't succeed on the name alone, and the genre is getting fatigued again badly.

 

[crimzonflame]

It will especially if it's jam packed with extras.

 

[Beth Cyra]

Are the people laughing at this just trolling or SF fans that think only SF sells well?

 

[Criminal Upper]

When was the last time a Tekken game sold decently? Tekken 3?

 

[danmaku]

For sure. I'm just saying it won't succeed on the name alone, and the genre is getting fatigued again badly.

For 2D fighters? sure. For 3D? not so much, and Tekken has lots of fans that don't care about 2D games (and didn't care about SFxT).

 

[gundamkyoukai]

3 million in less than a year is bad?

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-08-06-tekken-6-breaks-million-marker

hhhmm seem it did much better than i thought .
Tekken normally does good numbers to tell the truth .

 

[I-hate-u]

For sure. I'm just saying it won't succeed on the name alone, and the genre is getting fatigued again badly.

I get that, but Tekken sells really well in regions SF don't. TTT2 has also great buzz behind it while SFxT had a horrible one.

Genre fatigue or not, I think had Capcom not messed up the game so bad, SFxT would have met its target sales

 

[Stitch]

So what's that game in the lower right corner? AKB48 game?

 

[CSX]

When was the last time a Tekken game sold decently? Tekken 3?

Tekken 6. It outsold vanilla SFIV

 

[Peff]

Tekken 6. It outsold vanilla SFIV

Outshipped, maybe.

 

[Lothars]

Tekken 6. It outsold vanilla SFIV

I don't think it outsold SFIV but I think they were close in sales.

 

[Busaiku]

hhhmm seem it did much better than i thought .
Tekken normally does good numbers to tell the truth .

They never appear on the sales charts.
I honestly have no idea how Namco manages to ship so much.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

I'm certainly in for 1. Maybe 2.

 

[SolidSnakex]

So what's that game in the lower right corner? AKB48 game?

Yes.

TTT2 will do 2m easily. It also won't receive the type of backlash that SFxT had to go through

"As far as DLC, we don’t have concrete plans yet, but the way I’m thinking though is that the characters and such are like pieces that are necessary for a chess game," Harada continued. "So you wouldn’t want to sell them, because some people would have them and some wouldn’t. If we have DLC characters or stages, they would be free. We might use them for pre-order bonuses though, because the retailers really like it. That doesn’t mean they’d be exclusive forever though. That just means you’d get it earlier, for a certain period. So the players, they get to see a variety of different characters from the different pre-orders and such. The retailers get their pre-orders so they’re happy and if the retailers are happy, we’re happy. So that makes everyone happy."

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/04/1...rnament-2-has-dlc-fighters-they-will-be-free/

 

[CSX]

Outshipped, maybe.

well just read through that SFxT canniablism thread and saw this post

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37914108&postcount=339

 

[Busaiku]

well just read through that SFxT canniablism thread and saw this post

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37914108&postcount=339

Yes, that's what they shipped.
Namco always ships millions of Tekken games somewhere.

They shipped over 2 million copies of Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection on PSP somewhere.

 

[Peff]

well just read through that SFxT canniablism thread and saw this post

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37914108&postcount=339

http://garaph.info/softwareindividual.php//gid/3753

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=378666

Three weeks later... http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=380460

 

[I-hate-u]

I also forget to mention that Tekken does really well in the arcades in east Asia and is a big chunk from the profits from each Tekken title.

 

[djplaeskool]

They shipped over 2 million copies of Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection on PSP somewhere.

Admittedly, T5DR was amazing on PSP.

 

[AAK]

I don't think it outsold SFIV but I think they were close in sales.

SFIV sold 3.1 million as of now, Tekken 6 sold 3.5 million 1 year ago.

 

[MightyKAC]

Yes, that's what they shipped.
Namco always ships millions of Tekken games somewhere.

They shipped over 2 million copies of Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection on PSP somewhere.

According to Harada's twitter they sold 3.5 million copies of T6 worldwide

Edit: Dammit AAK!!!

 

[SmokedMeat]

Two million for Tekken game these days? I'd be shocked if it does one million.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

I wonder if they're including the Wii U version in those targets?

Pretty low projections all around though.

 

[Busaiku]

According to Harada's twitter they sold 3.5 million copies of T6 worldwide

Edit: Dammit AAK!!!

Yes, when Capcom or Namco says what they sold, it's what they (the publisher) sold.
That means what they sold to retailers, not what consumers bought.

As evidenced by the NPD, Media Create, and European data, there's no way it adds up to anything close to what they ship.
Which always makes me wonder how retailers keep buying into them.

 

[I-hate-u]

I wonder if they're including the Wii U version in those targets?

Pretty low projections all around though.

TTT2 is not on the Wii U

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

SFIV sold 3.1 million as of now, Tekken 6 sold 3.5 million way back in May.

3.1m is just the 360/PS3 SF4. Doesn't include PC sales.

Are the T6 numbers consoles only or do they include PSP too?

 

[SapientWolf]

If the online is good at launch then sure. I can see it doing 500k in Japan alone.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

TTT2 is not on the Wii U

The Wii U game is based off it iirc. They'll call it Tekken Tag Unlimited or Universe or whatever probably.

 

[AAK]

3.1m is just the 360/PS3 SF4. Doesn't include PC sales.

Are the T6 numbers consoles only or do they include PSP too?

If you want to play that game, I can also claim that those numbers don't include the GOD Tekken 6 sales either.

 

[Busaiku]

If you want to play that game, I can also claim that those numbers don't include the GOD Tekken 6 sales either.

Street Fighter IV's sales (by consumers) is much better though.
Capcom doesn't ship nearly as many abundant copies as Namco does.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

If you want to play that game, I can also claim that those numbers don't include the GOD Tekken 6 sales either.

Uh, these sales also wouldn't include GOD SF4 so I'm not sure what the point there is?

 

[Hejdlond]

I will double dip, but what I really want is a PC version. 1080p, anisotropic filtering, anti aliasing and so on instead of blurry pixelated sub-720p.

Yes, I know there's no way that will happen, sadly.

 

[T-Matt]

This is the only other fighting game I've really been hyped for beyond SFIV so I hope it does well.

 

[AAK]

Street Fighter IV's sales (by consumers) is much better though.
Capcom doesn't ship nearly as many abundant copies as Namco does.

How do you know those figures are shipped and not sold? Harada explicitly says SOLD not SHIPPED.