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Project P-100 (Nintendo/Platinum Games) announced for WiiU [Director: Hideki Kamiya]

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badcrumble

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duckroll said:
Let's pour one out for Bayonetta. Platinum Games definitely need new publishing partners fast considering how the entire Sega thing has gone south. Hope it works out for them.
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Let's pour one out for the entire hardcore character action genre. It's looking like Metal Gear Rising will be the last of it.
 
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Somnid

Member
I'm with you guys, needs more kill cams. Shotguns to the face make me hard.

Also people wanted StarFox over something like this?
 
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jj984jj

He's a pretty swell guy in my books anyway.
AndyMoogle said:
Why would anyone give Platinum a bigger budget when their games sell like 25k copies?

Also, every game doesn't need the budget of Gears of War or Uncharted to be fun.
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Yeah, yeah. Tell someone who will buy Wii U sometime soon. This line-up is completely underwhelming.
 
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OceanBlue

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MadOdorMachine said:
Because every game shown for Wii U has been kiddy. I hate bringing up that old term from the N64 days, but come on! Nintendo were supposed to be going after gamers. This is not how you do it, especially not with Kamiya. He should be working on a bigger title. If this is a downloadable game, then I'll give it a pass. Other wise it is a waste of resources and potential. They have shown nothing that wasn't already known for months. He should be working on a big game now if their library is that limited. It's a complete mismanagement of time.
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I guess you don't go after gamers with gameplay nowadays.
 
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AndyMoogle

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MadOdorMachine said:
Because every game shown for Wii U has been kiddy. I hate bringing up that old term from the N64 days, but come on! Nintendo were supposed to be going after gamers. This is not how you do it, especially not with Kamiya. He should be working on a bigger title. If this is a downloadable game, then I'll give it a pass. Other wise it is a waste of resources and potential. They have shown nothing that wasn't already known for months. He should be working on a big game now if their library is that limited. It's a complete mismanagement of time.
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And what exactly are you suggesting that he should work on? It's not like publishers are standing in line to work with Platinum Games.

Besides, if the game is good, then what difference does it make? A fun game is a fun game.
 
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starmud

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i love all the hate on twitter. yesterday it was about hating guns, blood and murder simulation. "all genres but dudebro are dead"

you get a new IP like this, from platinum, and people get pissed...

im hyped about it...

also, think of the possibility here, nintendo is working with platinum. were getting close. please god, let it be!
 
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MYE

Member
MadOdorMachine said:
Because every game shown for Wii U has been kiddy. I hate bringing up that old term from the N64 days, but come on! Nintendo were supposed to be going after gamers. This is not how you do it, especially not with Kamiya. He should be working on a bigger title. If this is a downloadable game, then I'll give it a pass. Other wise it is a waste of resources and potential. They have shown nothing that wasn't already known for months. He should be working on a big game now. It's a complete mismanagement of time.
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Oh my fucking god. What?

Why are you assuming Kamiya isnt doing this game because HE WANTS TOO?
And colorfull games are a waste of time now?
Gamers dont want this?
You will only give it a free pass if its downloadable?

....

What the hell
 
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zroid

Banned
Yeah, the more I see of this, the more awesome it looks. Don't get the hate at all. And it's Kamiya, so c'mon, the gameplay will be very solid.
 
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thetrin

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Guys. This thread is why companies keep making grimdark games.
 
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Vice

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MadOdorMachine said:
Because every game shown for Wii U has been kiddy. I hate bringing up that old term from the N64 days, but come on! Nintendo were supposed to be going after gamers. This is not how you do it, especially not with Kamiya. He should be working on a bigger title. If this is a downloadable game, then I'll give it a pass. Other wise it is a waste of resources and potential. They have shown nothing that wasn't already known for months. He should be working on a big game now if their library is that limited. It's a complete mismanagement of time.
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This is the kind of game Kamiya likes to make though. For every Resident Evil or Devil May Cry he's made an Okami or Viewtiful Joe. Being colorful does not mean a game can't provide deep gameplay and a meaningful story.

The Wii U did show some typical 'mature' games, ZombieU, Aliens, ME3 and so on.
 
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Officerrob

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MadOdorMachine said:
Because every game shown for Wii U has been kiddy. I hate bringing up that old term from the N64 days, but come on! Nintendo were supposed to be going after gamers. This is not how you do it, especially not with Kamiya. He should be working on a bigger title. If this is a downloadable game, then I'll give it a pass. Other wise it is a waste of resources and potential. They have shown nothing that wasn't already known for months. He should be working on a big game now if their library is that limited. It's a complete mismanagement of time.
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This!!! Nintendo has it's Mario's and Pikmin's, but where is it game to get the "hardcore" that they claim to be after? Their answer is to get Platinum/Kamiya to make a game that looks like your typical Nintendo game. This game will do nothing to help Nintendo from changing perceptions and is a waste of Kamiya's talents.
 
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Yuterald

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This game looks incredible! You people are crazy for not liking this! EASILY Game of the show. Platinum Games DESTROYING the competition!!!
 
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MadOdorMachine

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OceanBlue said:
I guess you don't go after gamers with gameplay nowadays.
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There was no wow factor that you would expect for a new console. This is not how you excite people. I would might have been more excited for Okami or Viewtiful Joe level graphics but we didn't even get that. It's just really disappointing to see Kamiya working on a this when he could be doing so much more.
 
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Magnus

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ggnoobIGN said:
No we want games that all look and play the same.
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jman2050 said:
Apparently when people say they want "new original games" what they actually mean is that they want "new cinematic corridor shooters"
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Sciz said:
It only counts when there's a maximum palette of three colors and a gun.
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Gawaian said:
Not enough QTE's and scripted events.
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I think this is a pretty telling point we've touched on here.

(I realize the sarcasm in all the quotes here, naturally)

We're commenting on how people that are complaining don't actually know what they want anymore, or secretly/unconsciously want more of the same, and almost don't know how to react to something new, untested and different...?
 
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ArjanN

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Teknoman said:
Keep this in mind. EVERY Platinum games title looks terrible the first time you see it. Then its incredibly fun when it hits.


Happened for Bayonetta, Vanquish, Anarchy, and Mad World (though your mileage may vary here).
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Their other games looked good from the start to me.

Magnus said:
I think this is a pretty telling point we've touched on here.

We're commenting on how people that are complaining don't actually know what they want anymore, or secretly/unconsciously want more of the same, and almost don't know how to react to something new, untested and different...?
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Uh, I think it's more that people want more platinum games that look like they have an actual budget. Although I do think most people in reality are fine with more of the same, as long as it's executed really well.
 
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ShironRedshift

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MadOdorMachine said:
Because every game shown for Wii U has been kiddy. I hate bringing up that old term from the N64 days, but come on! Nintendo were supposed to be going after gamers. This is not how you do it, especially not with Kamiya. He should be working on a bigger title. If this is a downloadable game, then I'll give it a pass. Other wise it is a waste of resources and potential. They have shown nothing that wasn't already known for months. He should be working on a big game now if their library is that limited. It's a complete mismanagement of time.
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Don't really care if the games are "kiddy" or not--that means nothing. What matters if the games are good or not, and this game is looking pretty sweet to me so far. As C.S. Lewis put it in one of my favorite quotes:
Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.
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Fabrik

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thetrin said:
Guys. This thread is why companies keep making grimdark games.
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Exactly. We pretend to want original IPs, but the majority only wants epic/mature games, even NeoGaf :(. The game is not mind-blowing graphically but it looks fun, and playable with 4 players. In Kamiya we trust! He has never made a bad game so far.
 
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AndyMoogle

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MYE said:
Oh my fucking god. What?

Why are you assuming Kamiya isnt doing this game because HE WANTS TOO?
And colorfull games are a waste of time now?
Gamers dont want this?
You will only give it a free pass if its downloadable?

....

What the hell
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Heh, yeah that too. As if making a low budget game is beneath Kamiya and something he would never want to do.

I can't say I'm surprised at all the superficial people here complaining about this. Sure, I would want Bayonetta 2 as well, but perhaps people should be happy that Kamiya gets work at all; even if it is "kiddy" low budget games.
 
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MYE

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Wow, GAF is really disappointing me on this one. This is the reception you give to a quirky new, Pikmin-like game from Kamiya?

For fucking shame.
 
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OceanBlue

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MadOdorMachine said:
There was no wow factor that you would expect for a new console. This is not how you excite people. I would might have been more excited for Okami or Viewtiful Joe level graphics but we didn't even get that. It's just really disappointing to see Kamiya working on a this when he could be doing so much more.
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All I'm getting from you is that people require "blockbuster" level graphics to excite people. What are you asking for when you want something exciting? Great cinematics? Huge explosions? Innovative and interesting gameplay?
 
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MadOdorMachine

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MYE said:
Oh my fucking god. What?

Why are you assuming Kamiya isnt doing this game because HE WANTS TOO?
And colorfull games are a waste of time now?
Gamers dont want this?
You will only give it a free pass if its downloadable?

....

What the hell
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No I like color. When I first saw Pikmin 3, it was a breath of fresh air compaired to all the ultra violent and drab color palette we've been seeing all thru this gen. That's not it. It's just severely disappointing. This should have been a 3DS title.
 
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thetrin

Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Fabrik said:
Exactly. We pretend to want original IPs, but the majority only wants epic/mature games, even NeoGaf :(. The game is not mind-blowing graphically but it looks fun, and playable with 4 players. In Kamiya we trust! He has never made a bad game so far.
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Whoa, it's 4 player as well? They didn't show that in the gameplay demo on Spike. Oh man, that sounds awesome.
 
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eilegz

Banned
looks horrible, why they couldnt just do bayonetta 2 or vanquish 2....

compared to platinum other games this one looks like crap. and seems to play like it too....

Why waste time on unappealing games look at spyborg capcom game it wasnt a bad game but crappy graphics art design it flopped the same with zack and wiki and madword which its not that good neither...

stop experimenting random crap on a nintendo console, invest this kind of random games on psn or xbox live arcade...
 
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jman2050

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Good god I was being facetious with my last post, but it sounds like people really DO want nothing more than cinematic corridor shooters, despite their best efforts to convince themselves otherwise.
 
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MadOdorMachine

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OceanBlue said:
All I'm getting from you is that people require "blockbuster" level graphics to excite people. What are you asking for when you want something exciting? Great cinematics? Huge explosions? Innovative and interesting gameplay?
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Okay, they guy that made Resident Evil 2, Devil May Cry, Viewtiful Joe, Okami and Bayonetta is working on this. You can't possibly tell me you're not at least a little bit disappointed about this, especially after he said he wanted to make a Starfox game. The gameplay will be great regardless, but it will get overlooked. It's a waste of resources. I don't know how I can be anymore clear about it.
 
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