I agree I kind of thought he should have died as well. I was like "they're really gonna do it aren't they!"
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I agree I kind of thought he should have died as well. I was like "they're really gonna do it aren't they!"
IamMattFox
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Bruce was saving it for Rachel. The Russian women were theatricality and deception.How quickly you forget the Russian girls on the boat?
Did Alfred get all those women?
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Agreed. Should have just been right before the head pounding.Well if he'd actually broken his back like that, the movie would be over, Batman would have been paralysed and unable to recover in the prison. So you can't have it too much
JOHN CENA DDT ON CONCRETE 2.0Batman kinda no-selling it didn't help matters.
brucewaynegretzky
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And in terms of Bane and Robin, he rewrote them so they're better than any way they've ever been done before, and will ripple throughout the comic lore forever. He changed things entirely with that stuff. I was in awe.
Nope. Not at all. Not in the slightest. Dear god, just no.
ryutaro's mama
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Batman kinda no-selling it didn't help matters.
Batman pulled a Randy Orton?
JJDinomite
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Saw the movie today, and I gotta say, I liked it more than the Dark Knight. Don't get me wrong, the Dark Knight is amazing, but this one's on a whole new level.
I guess my question is, does NeoGAF agree with me?
I guess my question is, does NeoGAF agree with me?
ViewtifulJC
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Damn, Bruce couldn't have called up Alfred or something. "Yo, I fixed the auto-pilot, just thought I should spare you some emotional pain and toil. TTYL"
I also really loved the imagery, when Batman first returned, of having like 100 cop cars after him.
SON, YOU'RE IN FOR A TREAT!
Indeed!
Looked incredible in IMAX
Nolan lied to us so much about this film.
And in terms of Bane and Robin, he rewrote them so they're better than any way they've ever been done before, and will ripple throughout the comic lore forever. He changed things entirely with that stuff. I was in awe.
Bane is often an interesting character, but I agree that Nolan's interpretation was excellent.
I don't know that I like his Robin though. I like Blake more as a follow-up to Gordon, not to Batman.
I agree I kind of thought he should have died as well. I was like "they're really gonna do it aren't they!"
Me personally, I knew he wasn't dead simply because of the earlier Alfred scene where he mentions Florence and then we see it. You don't show that for nothing. At that point it was clear to me where the ending was going.
Logistically speaking though, what the hell did Bruce do? Just bail into the ocean? :lol
FlashbladeGAF
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Up until that point, I loved the idea that Batman had died. Once we hit that scene though, I was hoping he wasn't, because seeing Alfred so devastated like that was heartbreaking to watch.
more or less the same with me
I was angry they toyed with the idea of killing him, then when they had unveiled the statue of Batman I was like maybe this literally is the END of the Trilogy and Im ok with that. Then when Alfred starting balling I was like... ok bring him back to life pleassse
ryutaro's mama
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Damn, Bruce couldn't have called up Alfred or something. "Yo, I fixed the auto-pilot, just thought I should spare you some emotional pain and toil. TTYL"
Uh...Alfred was showing Bruce how to sell a promo.
The funeral was a shoot work.
Reagan's BR
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Saw the movie today, and I gotta say, I liked it more than the Dark Knight. Don't get me wrong, the Dark Knight is amazing, but this one's on a whole new level.
I guess my question is, does NeoGAF agree with me?
Both TDKR and BB are better than TDK. If you were to watch BB and TDKR together and then watch TDK separately you would agree.
IamMattFox
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I think I do. This one just had more weight to everything in it like Begins. Kind of makes TDK seem like a one-off adventure or something.Saw the movie today, and I gotta say, I liked it more than the Dark Knight. Don't get me wrong, the Dark Knight is amazing, but this one's on a whole new level.
I guess my question is, does NeoGAF agree with me?
SpeedingUptoStop
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CHILLS. The best no named cop line in the trilogy.I also really loved the imagery, when Batman first returned, of having like 100 cop cars after him.
SON, YOU'RE IN FOR A TREAT!
Indeed!
BATMAN IS BACK, BITCHES.
Nolan lied to us so much about this film.
And in terms of Bane and Robin, he rewrote them so they're better than any way they've ever been done before, and will ripple throughout the comic lore forever. He changed things entirely with that stuff. I was in awe.
God no, you're so wrong about that.
Reagan's BR
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Me personally, I knew he wasn't dead simply because of the earlier Alfred scene where he mentions Florence and then we see it. You don't show that for nothing. At that point it was clear to me where the ending was going.
Logistically speaking though, what the hell did Bruce do? Just bail into the ocean? :lol
I assume that when he shot the rockets into the building he bailed behind the cover of the explosion.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Me personally, I knew he wasn't dead simply because of the earlier Alfred scene where he mentions Florence and then we see it. You don't show that for nothing. At that point it was clear to me where the ending was going.
Logistically speaking though, what the hell did Bruce do? Just bail into the ocean? :lol
For reals. He couldn't have bailed that early or everybody would have seen him drop from the plane. But if he bailed when he was far away the nobody could see him, then he would have been within the blast radius.
Just like how he got back inside military patrolled Gotham after being broke and halfway across the world in India, it's best not to question it.
Me personally, I knew he wasn't dead simply because of the earlier Alfred scene where he mentions Florence and then we see it. You don't show that for nothing. At that point it was clear to me where the ending was going.
Logistically speaking though, what the hell did Bruce do? Just bail into the ocean? :lol
Hid in a fridge. Blast blew him to safety.
Thagomizer
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What are you telling me? Breaking more than two vertebrae require some sort of Mike Tyson - type specialist to fix it?
No, it means he would be paralyzed. Because his back was broken in a way that would have severely damaged the spinal cord.
CHILLS. The best no named cop line in the trilogy.
BATMAN IS BACK, BITCHES.
It got even better when his rookie partner fucked up Batman's gun, and CRUSTY OLD VET shoots him this look/line like "son, that's THE BATMAN you're fucking with".
Did anyone else get chills when Batman told Gordon who he was? The flashback kind of ruined it, but I think that's the first time a line of dialogue has ever given me a spine tingling feeling. Maybe it's because I adore Begins so much, but that moment made the movie for me.
It was wonderful. I wasn't crazy about the flashback either. Nolan should have trusted his audience to make the connection
SpeedingUptoStop
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It destroyed me. Gordon didn't have many incredible moments in this one, like when he returns to his son and tells him He saved Batman & I just get the full effect of all that Bruce lost when his father died, right there in that moment.but that scene...hoo boy, CHILLS. so so worth it.Did anyone else get chills when Batman told Gordon who he was? The flashback kind of ruined it, but I think that's the first time a line of dialogue has ever affected me like that.
demosthenes
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For reals. He couldn't have bailed that early or everybody would have seen him drop from the plane. But if he bailed when he was far away the nobody could see him, then he would have been within the blast radius.
Just like how he got back inside military patrolled Gotham after being broke and halfway across the world in India, it's best not to question it.
:lol, yes I wondered when he just appeared. And then stopped and accepted.
By the way, what did people think of Gordon at the end w/ the statue? I couldn't get a read on his emotions.
-actually showing Bruce at the cafe at the end was god awful terribly stupid-- we would have "gotten it" without that shot
You have no idea how many people are thinking after the movie that what Alfred saw was illusion, and in reality Bruce died. A lot of people, even with the scene with Bale at the end, thinks this is open ending, which I really don't understand.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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He probably bailed during that explosion that happened right before the Bat left the city.Me personally, I knew he wasn't dead simply because of the earlier Alfred scene where he mentions Florence and then we see it. You don't show that for nothing. At that point it was clear to me where the ending was going.
Logistically speaking though, what the hell did Bruce do? Just bail into the ocean? :lol
The shots of him in the cockpit right before the explosion are a LIE
Did anyone else get chills when Batman told Gordon who he was? The flashback kind of ruined it, but I think that's the first time a line of dialogue has ever given me a spine tingling feeling. Maybe it's because I adore Begins so much, but that moment made the movie for me.
Yeah, that was great. You could definitely go along all three movies and cut out these flashbacks, though.
Only the ones that are only there for reminding the audience, anyway.
Hydrogen Bluebird
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Did anyone else get chills when Batman told Gordon who he was? The flashback kind of ruined it, but I think that's the first time a line of dialogue has ever given me a spine tingling feeling. Maybe it's because I adore Begins so much, but that moment made the movie for me.
Can you post the exact line that Bruce said? I didn't hear some words clearly. I remember Bruce saying "coat" and "shoulder"?
-Pyromaniac-
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Flashback didn't hurt it to me, just thought it wasn't neccessary, but I get it. Definitely got goosebumps when Gordon realizes it.
It was wonderful. I wasn't crazy about the flashback either. Nolan should have trusted his audience to make the connection
The movie could have hit even higher heights if Nolan had some more faith in his audience. That instance, Rhas disappearing Ghost style, Dent flashbacks, etc. None were necessary.
Inferno313
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Can we at least agree that the one flashback that was used perfectly was "Why do we fall?"
CHILLS MAN, CHILLS.
CHILLS MAN, CHILLS.
You have no idea how many people are thinking after the movie that what Alfred saw was illusion, and in reality Bruce died. A lot of people, even with the scene with Bale at the end, thinks this is open ending, which I really don't understand.
My brother thought the same thing
demosthenes
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It got even better when his rookie partner fucked up Batman's gun, and CRUSTY OLD VET shoots him this look/line like "son, that's THE BATMAN you're fucking with".
"Put that away before you hurt someone" :lol:lol
ViewtifulJC
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I hate that they sidelines Alfred and Gordon for so long, but I like that Gordon played a pretty key role in stopping the detonator.
SpeedingUptoStop
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Is Robin seriously that much more realistic in the comics? I'm familiar as far as Blake just being a greatest hits combo of all of them, on top of being totally unexpected.God no, you're so wrong about that.
It destroyed me. Gordon didn't have many incredible moments in this one, like when he returns to his son and tells him He saved Batman & I just get the full effect of all that Bruce lost when his father died, right there in that moment.but that scene...hoo boy, CHILLS. so so worth it.
It got me too, mainly because I saw it as this profound way of saying "thank you." Without Gordon doing that, who's to say Bruce would have ever found the strength to become Batman? It was the perfect way to explain how terribly indebted Bruce was to Gordon, going way beyond a simple friendly/professional relationship.
IamMattFox
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Where's NotTheGuyYouKill? I told him Gordon really didn't know about Batman's identity in the other two films.Did anyone else get chills when Batman told Gordon who he was? The flashback kind of ruined it, but I think that's the first time a line of dialogue has ever given me a spine tingling feeling. Maybe it's because I adore Begins so much, but that moment made the movie for me.
ryutaro's mama
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The movie could have hit even higher heights if Nolan had some more faith in his audience. That instance, Rhas disappearing Ghost style, Dent flashbacks, etc. None were necessary.
Agreed.
That's why the 'Robin' name drop irked me so.
It wasn't necessary--we all knew he was Robin.
Hydrogen Bluebird
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Can we at least agree that the one flashback that was used perfectly was "Why do we fall?"
CHILLS MAN, CHILLS.
Yeah, man. That was perfect. Climbing the well and all.
It destroyed me. Gordon didn't have many incredible moments in this one, like when he returns to his son and tells him He saved Batman & I just get the full effect of all that Bruce lost when his father died, right there in that moment.but that scene...hoo boy, CHILLS. so so worth it.
Yeah, it was really the story becoming full circle in one single moment. Gordon helped Bruce when he was most vulnerable, and Batman returns to save Gordon (and Gotham) when he's the most vulnerable. Really poetic stuff right thurr.
I hate that they sidelines Alfred and Gordon for so long, but I like that Gordon played a pretty key role in stopping the detonator.
Speaking of full circle or whatever, Gordon functions in a similar role in the big action climax of this to what he did in the big action climax of BB.
IamMattFox
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I thought they were going to go with Dick Grayson or Tim Drake with that one, but I have to admit that "Robin" did get me pretty pumped.Agreed.
That's why the 'Robin' name drop irked me so.
It wasn't necessary--we all knew he was Robin.
demosthenes
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Dammit I want to see it again just to see Gordon at the end at the statue. I can't remember his face and what it looked like.
SCULLIBUNDO
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There was not one flashback that was necessary. Complete lack of faith in the audience.
The movie could have hit even higher heights if Nolan had some more faith in his audience. That instance, Rhas disappearing Ghost style, Dent flashbacks, etc. None were necessary.
Too much stating of ideas and intents out loud when they were already obvious from what was happening on-screen.
brucewaynegretzky
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Is Robin seriously that much more realistic in the comics? I'm familiar as far as Blake just being a greatest hits combo of all of them, on top of being totally unexpected.
No. He's not based on ANY of them at all. Also, what "realism" are you talking about? The concept of "realism" is by far the most annoying metric applied to comic book movies, particularly DC movies, since the characters are such archetypal figures.
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